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 Demon Hunter Discussion, For bow lovers!! Share your build!

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gladfly
post Jul 17 2012, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(ilikehandphones @ Jul 17 2012, 02:48 PM)
guys wanna ask a very noob question...regarding critical hit chance...for example my crit hit chance now is 2% without ss...so if i buy a quiver with 7 crit hit chance how does it add up?...is it 2%+7% or are there are more complex math involved?
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Yes it does...its stacks ..so if you get 7% quiver...6% rings and 7% Ammy...it can stack up pretty fast. Good for Sharpshotoer as the it gets back up to 100% faster (assuming none of your shots were crits).


Added on July 17, 2012, 3:35 pm
QUOTE(rickrick @ Jul 17 2012, 02:29 PM)
once u hav crit chance over 40%, crit dama over 250%. dps over 50k w/o ss.
You'll stick with xbox, never going bk to bows for the stable dam done.
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But with Bow you can turn it to a really fast shooting machine gun- so its even in that sense but gets the advantage of gen hatred faster. I trying to get my Bow to 2.3 APS... which would be awesome...smile.gif


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post Jul 17 2012, 04:32 PM

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For me i prefer xbow coz it got more stable damage compare to xbow.. already tried compare bow vs xbow with the same dps.. xbow kill faster eventhough bow have better atk speed.. dmg just inconsistent with bow
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post Jul 17 2012, 10:17 PM

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post Jul 18 2012, 11:04 AM

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I'm a big bow fan for the att speed hence better kiting/mobility, if to use it with elemental arrows like screaming skull/frost arrow
I have to use xbow for the expensive hatred high dmg skill like cluster arrow, it jz gives alot more consistant output.
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post Jul 18 2012, 01:17 PM

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had an awesome game with wkkay last night. rclxms.gif

i tanked Inferno Act III Siegebreaker while wkkay do the DPSing. biggrin.gif
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post Jul 18 2012, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jul 18 2012, 01:17 PM)
had an awesome game with wkkay last night.  rclxms.gif

i tanked Inferno Act III Siegebreaker while wkkay do the DPSing. biggrin.gif
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No wonder I saw your pop up achievement yesterday night laugh.gif
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post Jul 18 2012, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jul 18 2012, 01:17 PM)
had an awesome game with wkkay last night.  rclxms.gif

i tanked Inferno Act III Siegebreaker while wkkay do the DPSing. biggrin.gif
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u tank using DH ?shocking.gif

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post Jul 18 2012, 03:00 PM

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yup. smile.gif you can come witness my DH any time you see me online.

i was on my full tank setup, 58k dps ~30k hp, ~800 resist with 3.5k armor. only this setup can survive in Act III. if Barb gives war cry, resist goes above 1k. Fire at 1.2k. biggrin.gif

my usual MF / speed setup with a little higher DPS (around 68k) works fine in Act I / II.

my full DPS setup goes to nearly 80k dmg, works fine in Act I / II but have to do more kiting.

i call my melee / tank DH the "kiasi" build. It's not tank like polarzbearz's friend with 1H bow + shield + 60k HP but it still tanks pretty decently.

Act I i can tank 2 elite packs at once (depending on type). Act II i can tank 1 - 2, depending. Rock Giant and such better run cos a few hit can KO. Act III ah, tanking is only for a while. have to run and kite a bit. tank again.


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QUOTE(polarzbearz @ Jul 18 2012, 02:19 PM)
No wonder I saw your pop up achievement yesterday night laugh.gif
yup. that's the one.

i can survive his multiple hits and charge despite 30k hp. however I must drink pot after that because my LOH and regen isn't fast enough to reach the "Safe" level before he does another triple strike.

btw I died at the very last minute, like say 5% of the fella's health left but it was good enough for my party member to deal the final damage.

our first attempt I died at 25% health bar left. KO. 2nd attempt I died too soon (right at the start) so kthxbai too. biggrin.gif in short, I just have to survive long enough to drain enemy HP to lead to the kill. was fun!
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post Jul 18 2012, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(draex3 @ Jul 18 2012, 02:26 PM)
u tank using DH ?shocking.gif
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There's many different builds floating around, especially after 1.0.3. More dual wielders LoH's, more tank hunters (1H + Shield), DH's with balanced stats, Glass cannon DH's, etc etc. laugh.gif

QUOTE(goldfries @ Jul 18 2012, 03:00 PM)
yup. smile.gif you can come witness my DH any time you see me online.

i was on my full tank setup, 58k dps ~30k hp, ~800 resist with 3.5k armor. only this setup can survive in Act III. if Barb gives war cry, resist goes above 1k. Fire at 1.2k. biggrin.gif

my usual MF / speed setup with a little higher DPS (around 68k) works fine in Act I / II.

my full DPS setup goes to nearly 80k dmg, works fine in Act I / II but have to do more kiting.

i call my melee / tank DH the "kiasi" build. It's not tank like polarzbearz's friend with 1H bow + shield + 60k HP but it still tanks pretty decently.

Act I i can tank 2 elite packs at once (depending on type). Act II i can tank 1 - 2, depending. Rock Giant and such better run cos a few hit can KO. Act III ah, tanking is only for a while. have to run and kite a bit. tank again.


Added on July 18, 2012, 3:04 pm

yup. that's the one.

i can survive his multiple hits and charge despite 30k hp. however I must drink pot after that because my LOH and regen isn't fast enough to reach the "Safe" level before he does another triple strike.

btw I died at the very last minute, like say 5% of the fella's health left but it was good enough for my party member to deal the final damage.

our first attempt I died at 25% health bar left. KO. 2nd attempt I died too soon (right at the start) so kthxbai too. biggrin.gif in short, I just have to survive long enough to drain enemy HP to lead to the kill. was fun!
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Ah, not really a kiasi build. Just, less frustrations over pointless deaths, right? tongue.gif



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post Jul 18 2012, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(polarzbearz @ Jul 18 2012, 03:13 PM)
There's many different builds floating around, especially after 1.0.3. More dual wielders LoH's, more tank hunters (1H + Shield), DH's with balanced stats, Glass cannon DH's, etc etc. laugh.gif
Ah, not really a kiasi build. Just, less frustrations over pointless deaths, right? tongue.gif
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actually i'm not a tanking build,but trying to have enough resistance/hp/armor enough get punch 4/5 times
I can finish act 1/2 with just a breeze (solo) co-op depending on the team ... if a freshly lvl60 ACT1 i can help him/her finish ACT1 .. act2 got issues with fast type of elite/champs

BUT act 3 is still a no no zone for me
for normal mobs i can handle .. but elite/champs .. i still have issue with them
30k~hp 500~ ALL RES 2.9k Armor, 50k dps



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post Jul 18 2012, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(draex3 @ Jul 18 2012, 03:33 PM)
actually i'm not a tanking build,but trying to have enough resistance/hp/armor enough get punch 4/5 times
I can finish act 1/2 with just a breeze (solo) co-op depending on the team ... if a freshly lvl60 ACT1 i can help him/her finish ACT1 .. act2 got issues with fast type of elite/champs

BUT act 3 is still a no no zone for me
for normal mobs i can handle .. but elite/champs .. i still have issue with them
30k~hp 500~ ALL RES 2.9k Armor, 50k dps
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U susing Caltrops? The I find tortuos ground is best for fast elites, skip jagged if you no LOH.

Your amour too low 2.9k. Try to get about 3.5k, substitute some dex with strength la..smile.gif

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post Jul 18 2012, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(draex3 @ Jul 18 2012, 03:33 PM)
actually i'm not a tanking build,but trying to have enough resistance/hp/armor enough get punch 4/5 times
I can finish act 1/2 with just a breeze (solo) co-op depending on the team ... if a freshly lvl60 ACT1 i can help him/her finish ACT1 .. act2 got issues with fast type of elite/champs

BUT act 3 is still a no no zone for me
for normal mobs i can handle .. but elite/champs .. i still have issue with them
30k~hp 500~ ALL RES 2.9k Armor, 50k dps
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50k DPS with SS or without?

HP and AllRes is fine, but more HP would help too. Ran comfortable at 46k HP ~300 AllRes with ~3k Armor last time.
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post Jul 18 2012, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(polarzbearz @ Jul 18 2012, 04:01 PM)
50k DPS with SS or without?

HP and AllRes is fine, but more HP would help too. Ran comfortable at 46k HP ~300 AllRes with ~3k Armor last time.
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ofc w/o SS ... hehe
but 1handed xbow(929dmg w/o dex 49 crit dmg) which makes me 43% crit chance (33% on equipment + 10%)

y'day i got a bow 1.1k dmg bow with 165 dex 60crit dmg + 3% life steal
i think my dmg should increase to 60k or something .. haven try it out yet



"Ran comfortable" refer to ACT 3?


QUOTE(gladfly @ Jul 18 2012, 03:56 PM)
U susing Caltrops? The I find tortuos ground is best for fast elites, skip jagged if you no LOH.

Your amour too low 2.9k. Try to get about 3.5k, substitute some dex with strength la..smile.gif
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interesting i shall try again
only got 222 LoH on my ring and a new bow 3% life steal...
i used to used Caltrops in hell but in inferno i feel like it got no effect at all...

right now my strategy is run far far and shoot >_<
smoke screen[lingering] twice (when nessacary)/vault[Acrobatics] -> preparation[backup] -> smoke screen twice

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post Jul 18 2012, 05:50 PM

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My LOH relies heavily on mobs and whatever else that foes multiple hits.

If nothing else to hit then I have to run.

I find going around with less than 400 Res is not nice.
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QUOTE(draex3 @ Jul 18 2012, 04:11 PM)
ofc w/o SS ... hehe
but 1handed xbow(929dmg w/o dex 49 crit dmg)  which makes me 43% crit chance (33% on equipment + 10%)

y'day i got a bow 1.1k dmg bow with 165 dex  60crit dmg + 3% life steal
i think my dmg should increase to 60k or something .. haven try it out yet
"Ran comfortable" refer to ACT 3?
interesting i shall try again
only got 222 LoH on my ring and a new bow 3% life steal...
i used to used Caltrops in hell but in inferno i feel like it got no effect at all...

right now my strategy is run far far and shoot >_<
smoke screen[lingering] twice (when nessacary)/vault[Acrobatics]  -> preparation[backup] -> smoke screen twice
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50k DPS w/o SS with ~30k hp, ~350 AllRes should be more than enough to farm comfortably in Act 3; at least for me (Tower of cursed level 1, level 2, spider, core arreat, azmodan). Keeps 1/2/3 works as well but much more.. pain in the ass.

I did Tower to azmodan run ever since 35k DPS w/o SS and improved over time (started with 46k HP ~300 AllRes).


Added on July 19, 2012, 12:19 amAnyway, here's my friend's Tank Hunter build for those who are interested.

Stats and items below:

Shield:
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Dual-Wield:
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Disclaimer: This is my friend's item/stats/build, not mine. tongue.gif

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post Jul 19 2012, 05:50 AM

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At last! Manage to get this at a reasonable price. rclxms.gif

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Lose 1.1k dps, but gain 5.5k hp and 400loh
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QUOTE(nightshade_nova @ Jul 19 2012, 05:50 AM)
At last! Manage to get this at a reasonable price.  rclxms.gif

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Lose 1.1k dps, but gain 5.5k hp and 400loh
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How much?


Added on July 19, 2012, 7:19 amMy hp 33k, armor 3.1k, rresist is 650, dps is 43k, still ok in act 2...

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letting it go for good price. biggrin.gif
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post Jul 19 2012, 09:28 AM

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QUOTE(polarzbearz @ Jul 18 2012, 07:06 PM)
50k DPS w/o SS with ~30k hp, ~350 AllRes should be more than enough to farm comfortably in Act 3; at least for me (Tower of cursed level 1, level 2, spider, core arreat, azmodan). Keeps 1/2/3 works as well but much more.. pain in the ass.

I did Tower to azmodan run ever since 35k DPS w/o SS and improved over time (started with 46k HP ~300 AllRes).


Added on July 19, 2012, 12:19 amAnyway, here's my friend's Tank Hunter build for those who are interested.

Stats and items below:

Shield:
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Dual-Wield:
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Disclaimer: This is my friend's item/stats/build, not mine. tongue.gif
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Hi Polar, how much armor did you have back then?


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