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 Wizard Discussion, Come, all ye arcanists

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bontotalan
post Jun 14 2012, 07:33 PM

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QUOTE(j-insigh @ Jun 14 2012, 06:42 PM)
haha. well, at least your gear is well above of some of ours here.. smile.gif r u working or retired d? LOL
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hahah retired from working, finding new job tongue.gif
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post Jun 15 2012, 08:52 AM

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changed my build yesterday to a melee wizard..

reduced my dps from 28k(with magic weapon) to only 12k
increased all resistance from 200 to 600 (with prismatic armor)
increased armor from 3.5k to 7k (with force armor)
reduced life from 30k to 20k
reduced attk speed from 2.42 to 2
increased life on hit to 588
reduced life regen from 300/s to 0/s
decreased movement speed from 25% to 12%
increased crit chance 5% to 20%

final comment... much more fun... can at least survive in act2 inferno... the barbs and monks die faster than me smile.gif
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post Jun 15 2012, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(wlcling @ Jun 15 2012, 08:52 AM)
changed my build yesterday to a melee wizard..

reduced my dps from 28k(with magic weapon) to only 12k
increased all resistance from 200 to 600 (with prismatic armor)
increased armor from 3.5k to 7k (with force armor)
reduced life from 30k to 20k
reduced attk speed from 2.42 to 2
increased life on hit to 588
reduced life regen from 300/s to 0/s
decreased movement speed from 25% to 12%
increased crit chance 5% to 20%

final comment... much more fun... can at least survive in act2 inferno... the barbs and monks die faster than me smile.gif
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eh.... what i missing here?

JAYworm
post Jun 15 2012, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(achok @ Jun 15 2012, 10:35 AM)
eh.... what i missing here?
maybe he means energy armor lah, since prismatic energy armor increase armor rate too smile.gif
joeong
post Jun 15 2012, 11:01 AM

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means he change his armor set lerrr.
if not how can resistances jump so high. he probably changed about 5 pcs of his armor to a higher armour higher resist build to meelee. focusing more on meelee & survivability than glass cannon kiter.
im hunting for that kind of survivability gear.... hard to find..
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post Jun 15 2012, 11:07 AM

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ahhhhhh.... get it.

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post Jun 15 2012, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(achok @ Jun 15 2012, 10:35 AM)
eh.... what i missing here?
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QUOTE(joeong @ Jun 15 2012, 11:01 AM)
means he change his armor set lerrr.
if not how can resistances jump so high. he probably changed about 5 pcs of his armor to a higher armour higher resist build to meelee. focusing more on meelee & survivability than glass cannon kiter.
im hunting for that kind of survivability gear.... hard to find..
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yah.. and I got a shield with crit% so that boosted my armor and crit%

top up with force armor (prismatic rune) then it can buff up further the armor and resistances. downside is I lose dps but I think I'm still doing more dmg now as am wacking creeps In the face instead of wasting time kiting.

spend about 400k to change 4 or 5 gears... so actually affordable lah..
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post Jun 15 2012, 11:52 AM

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where you guys farm nowadays?
dank cellar? where else you guys recommend? im so poor since royal crypts got nerfed haha
Chobits
post Jun 15 2012, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(bontotalan @ Jun 14 2012, 05:01 PM)
i did fine on the laser, what's his level? and whats his dps on his weapon


Added on June 14, 2012, 5:02 pmuser posted image

My sucky equipment, this is WITH buff [magic weapon and force armor]

But still managed to 5 stack and kill siegebreaker


Added on June 14, 2012, 5:04 pm

all from farming siegebreaker

4m on this one legendary glove
then like 300k-2m per piece of stuff...
takes a long time to get though....
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which elites u avoid ? like what kind of combo elites that is very very hard to kill ?
does resist help a lot ? coz chii got only 250 to all resist, 33k health.
currently chii is in act 3 catapults, but i can't advance to siegebreaker,
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post Jun 15 2012, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(Chobits @ Jun 15 2012, 12:35 PM)
which elites u avoid ? like what kind of combo elites that is very very hard to kill ?
does resist help a lot ? coz chii got only 250 to all resist, 33k health.
currently chii is in act 3 catapults, but i can't advance to siegebreaker,
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my res is currently fine to not get 1 shotted by mobs with force armor on.

it's that high to not get 1 shotted so if i am trapped and my teleport is down, i get hit, illusionist kicks in, then i can teleport to safety and hydra-heal.

Soul Ripper with any affix.

I don't go to outside where they got the "korek bontot" punya mob. I only play inside
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post Jun 15 2012, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(wlcling @ Jun 15 2012, 08:52 AM)
changed my build yesterday to a melee wizard..

reduced my dps from 28k(with magic weapon) to only 12k
increased all resistance from 200 to 600 (with prismatic armor)
increased armor from 3.5k to 7k (with force armor)
reduced life from 30k to 20k
reduced attk speed from 2.42 to 2
increased life on hit to 588
reduced life regen from 300/s to 0/s
decreased movement speed from 25% to 12%
increased crit chance 5% to 20%

final comment... much more fun... can at least survive in act2 inferno... the barbs and monks die faster than me smile.gif
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Can share what is your skill build?
spectral + frost + DS + ?
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post Jun 15 2012, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(bontotalan @ Jun 15 2012, 01:57 PM)
my res is currently fine to not get 1 shotted by mobs with force armor on.

it's that high to not get 1 shotted so if i am trapped and my teleport is down, i get hit, illusionist kicks in, then i can teleport to safety and hydra-heal.

Soul Ripper with any affix.

I don't go to outside where they got the "korek bontot" punya mob. I only play inside
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so...all affix will be can kill, except soul raper.
hmm, won't invunerable minion+fast be hard to kill ?
i don't 1 hit in act 3 but, my items don't grant lifesteal....should i get some ?
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post Jun 15 2012, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(Chobits @ Jun 15 2012, 02:17 PM)
so...all affix will be can kill, except soul raper.
hmm, won't invunerable minion+fast be hard to kill ?
i don't 1 hit in act 3 but, my items don't grant lifesteal....should i get some ?
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there's a bug in the wizard world currently
life after kill, when you re-summon hydra, for example u have 2000 life after kill, after each resummon u get 6000 hp

depends, if you think you cant kill the elite just skip it. for me, icy quillback invulnerable minion still easy. the skeleton axe holding thing invulnerable minion is also easy, just they rack alot of HP
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post Jun 15 2012, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(bontotalan @ Jun 15 2012, 02:43 PM)
there's a bug in the wizard world currently
life after kill, when you re-summon hydra, for example u have 2000 life after kill, after each resummon u get 6000 hp

depends, if you think you cant kill the elite just skip it. for me, icy quillback invulnerable minion still easy. the skeleton axe holding thing invulnerable minion is also easy, just they rack alot of HP
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wow thanks for the tips, i got very low life regen so i think this trick totally help me.


Added on June 15, 2012, 3:36 pm
QUOTE(wlcling @ Jun 15 2012, 11:46 AM)
top up with force armor (prismatic rune) then it can buff up further the armor and resistances. downside is I lose dps but I think I'm still doing more dmg now as am wacking creeps In the face instead of wasting time kiting.
force armor and prismatic armor is a rune, while the original skill is energy armor.

This post has been edited by JAYworm: Jun 15 2012, 03:36 PM
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post Jun 15 2012, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(my-logitech @ Jun 15 2012, 02:02 PM)
Can share what is your skill build?
spectral + frost + DS + ?
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+ meteor + familiar..


Added on June 15, 2012, 3:41 pm
QUOTE(JAYworm @ Jun 15 2012, 03:35 PM)
wow thanks for the tips, i got very low life regen so i think this trick totally help me.


Added on June 15, 2012, 3:36 pm
force armor and prismatic armor is a rune, while the original skill is energy armor.
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lol sorry I meant energy armor with prismatic rune.

This post has been edited by wlcling: Jun 15 2012, 03:41 PM
joeong
post Jun 15 2012, 03:44 PM

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meelee builds use star pact cos metoer heals back alot of life.
and the criticals from metoer aoe and damage over time will 100% proc a critical mass!
meteor - star pact cos other metoers makan too much mana to spam.
i actually think meteor for mage is underpowered... too long time before the meteor actually hits. and too little damage/ too high mana cost.
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post Jun 15 2012, 03:46 PM

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[quote=joeong,Jun 15 2012, 03:44 PM]
meelee builds use star pact cos metoer heals back alot of life.
and the criticals from metoer aoe and damage over time will 100% proc a critical mass!
meteor - star pact cos other metoers makan too much mana to spam.
i actually think meteor for mage is underpowered... too long time before the meteor actually hits. and too little damage/ too high mana cost.
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It take long but after the initial meteor down, it keep coming without downtime and if you have at least 20 Arcane power gain per critical hit, you will get almost unlimited meteor to spam brows.gif brows.gif
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post Jun 15 2012, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(joeong @ Jun 15 2012, 03:44 PM)
meelee builds use star pact cos metoer heals back alot of life.
and the criticals from metoer aoe and damage over time will 100% proc a critical mass!
meteor - star pact cos other metoers makan too much mana to spam.
i actually think meteor for mage is underpowered... too long time before the meteor actually hits. and too little damage/ too high mana cost.
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hope they buff it. ...imagine its channeling lol
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post Jun 15 2012, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(bontotalan @ Jun 15 2012, 02:43 PM)
there's a bug in the wizard world currently
life after kill, when you re-summon hydra, for example u have 2000 life after kill, after each resummon u get 6000 hp

depends, if you think you cant kill the elite just skip it. for me, icy quillback invulnerable minion still easy. the skeleton axe holding thing invulnerable minion is also easy, just they rack alot of HP
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where is my visa card's ? hahaha

and enrage creep yo laugh.gif
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post Jun 15 2012, 04:48 PM

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im using a 9 arcane power on crit offhand item.
but still not enough to tahan continuous meteor stream!
i tried the weapon buff for + 1 AP on hit. (but i dunno the percentage on this like not so effective like that)
blood magic i know is close to useless in inferno. is the +15%dmg 2% knockback the best?
i tried spectral blade+bleed , force weapon+venom. but i dunno if it stack anot? cos venom from hydra stacks so i thought i would try it out lol. dont think its so effective yet tho

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