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tyj82
post May 22 2012, 05:31 AM

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Question, did attack speed affect disintegrate ?
I dont use magic missile much. Not sure worth keeping the attack speed ring.
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post May 22 2012, 06:18 AM

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my built with 2.5 attack speed. use blizzard with frozen solid rune to slowdown/frost enemy then use electrocute with lightning blast + passive stun skills and arcane orb with tap the source rune (deals high damage + save extra arcane power and you can dps while moving) pretty useful against most enemies biggrin.gif
use energy armor with energy tap rune to increase 20 arcane points + some extra defense, teleport with wormhole rune to run away when mobs gets too close, and archon with pure power to reduce cooldown for effective boss killing.
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post May 22 2012, 08:22 AM

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For Inferno you should all be using the highest DAMAGE weapon you can find. Not DPS, DAMAGE.

90% of your time will be spent running away and kiting while using Hydra, so weapon speed is irrelevant to any build.

Obvious things to have: Intelligence, Life Regeneration, Movement Speed

The last one is quite underrated and is arguably the most valuable of all stats in the game for Inferno.
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post May 22 2012, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(tyj82 @ May 22 2012, 05:31 AM)
Question, did attack speed affect disintegrate ?
I dont use magic missile much. Not sure worth keeping the attack speed ring.
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basically, atk spd affect ur base dmg, which affecting dmg for every spell
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post May 22 2012, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(ZeratoS @ May 22 2012, 08:22 AM)
For Inferno you should all be using the highest DAMAGE weapon you can find. Not DPS, DAMAGE.

90% of your time will be spent running away and kiting while using Hydra, so weapon speed is irrelevant to any build.

Obvious things to have: Intelligence, Life Regeneration, Movement Speed

The last one is quite underrated and is arguably the most valuable of all stats in the game for Inferno.
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Yup, agree on this, actually start in Hell, kiting is what Wiz do all the time (because we are paperlike laugh.gif), so get high damage weapon so that our hydra can actually damaging the mobs..movements speed is thumbup.gif, cast diamond while at it
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post May 22 2012, 10:07 AM

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get both ring with each 12% atk spd increment, u will find out its more usefull thn int ring (increasing in dmg, not spd)

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post May 22 2012, 10:07 AM

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im lvl 56 20k hp but i die like ant in hell mode....sighzzz
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post May 22 2012, 10:10 AM

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^ahaha bro i fell u, especially when meet up with those teleporters+vamp mobs vmad.gif
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post May 22 2012, 10:11 AM

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im stuck at act 2........feel like skipping act 2 and go to act 3 d...die too many time sighz
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post May 22 2012, 11:18 AM

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Does the mobs level change due to our level?
Question: let say i am level 60 at nightmare. Item that probbaly gonna drop should be level 60? since i heard somewhere mobs level will always higher than us (mobs etimate level 61~63).

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post May 22 2012, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(ZeratoS @ May 22 2012, 08:22 AM)
For Inferno you should all be using the highest DAMAGE weapon you can find. Not DPS, DAMAGE.

90% of your time will be spent running away and kiting while using Hydra, so weapon speed is irrelevant to any build.

Obvious things to have: Intelligence, Life Regeneration, Movement Speed

The last one is quite underrated and is arguably the most valuable of all stats in the game for Inferno.
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basically this...im beginning to swap out hp/vit/armor for damage...and atk speed is useless

I'm using blizz + hydra...seems to work the best
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post May 22 2012, 12:15 PM

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got no idea why everybody is saying atk spd is useless, damage calculation is including atk spd, and atk spd multiply ur dmg more thn int can do, just compare ur damage whenever u get a +10% atk spd ring with int ring
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post May 22 2012, 12:18 PM

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^ they're saying atk speed is useless cos you wont have time to stand there and cast many spells. 1 hit mampus.
so take high damage items so taht your kiting spells are high damage (blizzaard & hydra) need for survivability.

stand there and shoot beam yes very high damage.
but 1 time kena smack by mob = GG.com
(im talking about the higher difficulty modes ya btw) normal and nightmare atk spd still very useful

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post May 22 2012, 12:19 PM

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movement speed very important for kiting which is what you'll be doing starting nightmare onwards
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post May 22 2012, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(ragk @ May 22 2012, 12:15 PM)
got no idea why everybody is saying atk spd is useless, damage calculation is including atk spd, and atk spd multiply ur dmg more thn int can do, just compare ur damage whenever u get a +10% atk spd ring with int ring
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thats because in inferno, u will not have a chance to utilize that attack speed...99% of the time u will be shooting 1 time, run, repeat
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post May 22 2012, 01:25 PM

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the best combo in inferno, frost hdyra + Blizzard with unreletting storm?
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post May 22 2012, 02:05 PM

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Its not abt stand there and use normal atk, its abt ur spell dmg. juz try it out, atk spd ring giv u more dmg.
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post May 22 2012, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(ragk @ May 22 2012, 02:05 PM)
Its not abt stand there and use normal atk, its abt ur spell dmg. juz try it out, atk spd ring giv u more dmg.
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well true but if ur damage low also no use tongue.gif so both must set a balance.
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post May 22 2012, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(ragk @ May 22 2012, 02:05 PM)
Its not abt stand there and use normal atk, its abt ur spell dmg. juz try it out, atk spd ring giv u more dmg.
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Does ASPD affect hydra attack speed?
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post May 22 2012, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(Nels @ May 22 2012, 02:09 PM)
Does ASPD affect hydra attack speed?
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no, but affect the dmg


Added on May 22, 2012, 2:16 pm
QUOTE(shojikun @ May 22 2012, 02:08 PM)
well true but if ur damage low also no use tongue.gif so both must set a balance.
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yeah, as long as u get appropriate armor, by right u will get many INT stats from ur armor, but atk spd stats so far i can find is only from weapon and ring, i juz abandon both my ring for atk spd, yet it do giving me more dmg

This post has been edited by ragk: May 22 2012, 02:16 PM

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