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stevie
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Aug 28 2012, 02:09 PM
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Getting Started

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yeah. a base stat IK belt goes for 10mil comes with a shitload of AR and LL. Maybe i'll take the plunge if the stars align. lol
Added on August 28, 2012, 2:11 pmthen again. just waiting out the early adopter tax as well.
This post has been edited by stevie: Aug 28 2012, 02:11 PM
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jerrykhor
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Aug 28 2012, 02:34 PM
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Getting Started

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QUOTE(stevie @ Aug 28 2012, 01:22 PM) your gloves and chest should be easily upgradable for not too much  just bought a chest 210 stats AR 2 sockets for 300k yesterday. i must thank you for finding that chest armor for me..
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DianDian
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Aug 28 2012, 03:57 PM
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New Member
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QUOTE(HaRuaN.X @ Aug 28 2012, 11:24 AM) wah..how many out there runnin without the 3 high end skill (WoTB, EQuake & Call Of Ancient) ? curious wanna know what skills u guys/gals are using...can test test u guys build  hey, the c/d too long....use when facing tough boss.
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cyclone9
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Aug 28 2012, 04:59 PM
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where to farm after 1.04 for barb?
i can solo until act 3 (1st few chapters )
50k life 35k dps low mf unless after swap 250% (5valor)
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ahhoe80
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Aug 28 2012, 05:14 PM
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Any sifu barbs can give comments on how to improve survivability for my barb? My Barb HEREDPS is ok around 32k dps. Critting at 35% chance with 303% crits from equipments, skills, passive etc. HP at 29k. Quite hard to survive because some still manage to one-hit me. The HP just drops too fast. AR is around 500-600+ while Armor is 7.4k after buffing with War Cry. Still kena die like toufu  btw: still doing OK at Act 2 BUT have to be very careful. Act 3 is totally gone case This post has been edited by ahhoe80: Aug 28 2012, 05:15 PM
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yuhhaur
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Aug 28 2012, 05:30 PM
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QUOTE(cyclone9 @ Aug 28 2012, 04:59 PM) where to farm after 1.04 for barb? i can solo until act 3 (1st few chapters ) 50k life 35k dps low mf unless after swap 250% (5valor) Now can go all way to A4 with your pre-104 gear. No worry barb had been buffed
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sovietmah
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Aug 28 2012, 05:31 PM
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QUOTE(ahhoe80 @ Aug 28 2012, 05:14 PM) Any sifu barbs can give comments on how to improve survivability for my barb? My Barb HEREDPS is ok around 32k dps. Critting at 35% chance with 303% crits from equipments, skills, passive etc. HP at 29k. Quite hard to survive because some still manage to one-hit me. The HP just drops too fast. AR is around 500-600+ while Armor is 7.4k after buffing with War Cry. Still kena die like toufu  btw: still doing OK at Act 2 BUT have to be very careful. Act 3 is totally gone case  Life too short, no LOH. check my one, i can go act 3 comfortably and act 4 might be difficult but if with monk help then very easy. http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Stabilo...0/hero/11786906Simply said, you need 600 AR for act 1, 800 for act 2, 900 for act 3, 1000 for act 4. That's my point of view for barb. This post has been edited by sovietmah: Aug 28 2012, 05:33 PM
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ahhoe80
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Aug 28 2012, 05:41 PM
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So in order to sustain, I have to have LOH? Will Life regen helps? In terms of HP, what's the acceptable rate? 40k? 50k? Armor wise I donno how to pump further already.. zzzz.. unless get gears with even higher armor. I will do the necessary for AR. Seems not enough.. My WD and Monk around 700+ also not enough This post has been edited by ahhoe80: Aug 28 2012, 05:41 PM
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Aura
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Aug 28 2012, 05:57 PM
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QUOTE(ahhoe80 @ Aug 28 2012, 05:41 PM) So in order to sustain, I have to have LOH? Will Life regen helps? In terms of HP, what's the acceptable rate? 40k? 50k? Armor wise I donno how to pump further already.. zzzz.. unless get gears with even higher armor. I will do the necessary for AR. Seems not enough.. My WD and Monk around 700+ also not enough  I think a lot of ppl still cannot get how to build a correct dual wield barb.... For dual wielding, u need to hav as much resists as possible since u dun hav a shield to help soak the dmg... That's for dmg reduction..... The other thing is HP.... What I've noticed that a lot of dual wield barbs neglects this and go for as much dps as possible.... U also need to consider the amount of HP is needed in order to stay alive.... U also hav to note that u cannot rely on crits at all since not every hit is a crit hit.... That's why a balance is needed if u r going for dual wield.... Most stats are really unbalanced for dual wield and that's why ppl struggle with barbs.... If u hav a low budget, I suggest u go for a shield to use for now.... If u hav money to spend later, then only slowly convert ur char until ur char is not dependent on the shield for dmg reduction....
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lepo
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Aug 28 2012, 06:06 PM
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With enought LOH, medium range of AR can finish act 3 now after 1.04..
For me, 40k is good enought, if more is bonus for you...
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ahhoe80
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Aug 28 2012, 06:08 PM
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U guys are ohsom! Yes i'm not afraid to admit that I'm indeed low on budget because total 5 Level 60 chars. Very hard to maintain
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Renekton
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Aug 28 2012, 06:13 PM
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If you have Rend + Bloodlust, you can have low LOH like <400
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Balaclava
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Aug 29 2012, 01:25 AM
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QUOTE(ahhoe80 @ Aug 28 2012, 05:41 PM) So in order to sustain, I have to have LOH? Will Life regen helps? In terms of HP, what's the acceptable rate? 40k? 50k? Armor wise I donno how to pump further already.. zzzz.. unless get gears with even higher armor. I will do the necessary for AR. Seems not enough.. My WD and Monk around 700+ also not enough  your DPS too low to be sustained by lifesteal. in terms of HP, around 40k will do if you got around 700-800 AR though the more the better. and I notice your crit rate of 35% still too low. I'm on 49% and I still feel that I can go higher. If your crit rate low your crit dmg how high also useless. so i suggest you ditch some crit rate/dmg combo item for 2 reasons: 1) too expensive , 2) you wont survive to use that in a fight that last more than 2 minute. hence go more for crit chance/AR combo items first. like me, i also have to lower my items to accomodate for survivability. currently doing around 59k dps with 800 average AR and I still die to crowd controls. so no need shame in dropping dps one.  btw, paragon 15 now. chau hai hard to up like fark. full seige run till azmodan only like 1/3 bar.
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ahhoe80
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Aug 29 2012, 01:42 AM
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Thanks alot... Yeah.. Like what u said.. now survivability is an issue.. dun even talk about DPS yet I'm worried that if i were to ditch crits and go back to "old school style" then the DPS would be just to low and whack until bored.. Just like my Monk, 21k dps can survive long but no crits no nothing.. just whack 10times on a normal enemy zzzzzz Again.. balance is the key like all u sifus mention.. Crits built is just waaaay too expensive for me to afford
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Balaclava
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Aug 29 2012, 01:50 AM
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QUOTE(ahhoe80 @ Aug 29 2012, 01:42 AM) Thanks alot... Yeah.. Like what u said.. now survivability is an issue.. dun even talk about DPS yet I'm worried that if i were to ditch crits and go back to "old school style" then the DPS would be just to low and whack until bored.. Just like my Monk, 21k dps can survive long but no crits no nothing.. just whack 10times on a normal enemy zzzzzz Again.. balance is the key like all u sifus mention.. Crits built is just waaaay too expensive for me to afford  the problem is crit rate/dmg combo affix is damn expensive. so what a budget fella like me and u can do is, push crit dmg on weapon only mandatorily. if other parts can find crit rate/dmg with other affix you need then it'll be bonus. once you get your base AR around 500/600+ then you can start to play a little more flexible. like put str more if you still dont have money, or if you got money, straight whack for crit rate/dmg and even more life on hit.
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mothangel
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Aug 29 2012, 04:28 AM
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Getting Started

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Hope this helps if anyone on low budget like me http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Calivin...1/hero/18724832Crits Hack n Slash build TOTAL : 25m helm - 3m shoulder - 60k glove - 1m chest - from drop pants - 900k boots - 2m belt - 1.5m bracer - 5m ring - 5m skull grasp - from drop amulet - 5m main hand - 2m offhand - 1.5m gem self craft This post has been edited by mothangel: Aug 29 2012, 04:30 AM
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HaRuaN.X
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Aug 29 2012, 09:39 AM
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New Member
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sumhow or rather i can't notice the life steal when using Rend + Leech Life Rune, the damage is good though, but the 8% damage as life rune...is it 8% per tick in that 5 sec or 1 time ?
also haven't tried to see whether LoH ticks per DoT for Rend yet, if it does then 2H with 1800++ LoH would be a good economic option with Rend using the 7 sec duration Rune since 2H with good DPS & LoH (and with the new 1.04, STR/VIT/INT/DEX are Huge for 2H, bout 300-500 per stat) is relatively cheaper compared to a single hander weapon.
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Balaclava
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Aug 29 2012, 09:48 AM
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I would intepret it as 9% of the damage done by rend which is 700% over 5 seconds. that means it should be (0.09/700)x(damage) / 5 for damage per second life stolen. cmiiw.
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stevie
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Aug 29 2012, 09:51 AM
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Getting Started

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Don't forget the inferno LL nerf of 75% Added on August 29, 2012, 9:51 amQUOTE(mothangel @ Aug 29 2012, 04:28 AM) Hope this helps if anyone on low budget like me http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Calivin...1/hero/18724832Crits Hack n Slash build TOTAL : 25m helm - 3m shoulder - 60k glove - 1m chest - from drop pants - 900k boots - 2m belt - 1.5m bracer - 5m ring - 5m skull grasp - from drop amulet - 5m main hand - 2m offhand - 1.5m gem self craft  AH king This post has been edited by stevie: Aug 29 2012, 09:51 AM
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Balaclava
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Aug 29 2012, 09:54 AM
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eh, not 80% meh?
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