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post Aug 27 2012, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(xander @ Aug 27 2012, 12:11 PM)
is LOH important on barb?

my build currently has no LOH and attack speed at all

using some 2 hand mace.

m thinking since i WW a lot no point having high attack speed.
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If WW barb, then u need to change to dual wield for better effectiveness.... There's certain mechanics that utilizes atk spd and yes, LoH is important for WW....

The reason is simple, I pointed out that there's certain mechanics that utilizes atk spd.... There's where the LoH comes into play.... Each tornado that u generate and each hit that hits the mobs, will in return gives u life... So, u need atk spd to make this build as effective as possible since the faster ur hits atk, the faster u get back ur life....
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QUOTE(Aura @ Aug 27 2012, 12:20 PM)
If WW barb, then u need to change to dual wield for better effectiveness.... There's certain mechanics that utilizes atk spd and yes, LoH is important for WW....

The reason is simple, I pointed out that there's certain mechanics that utilizes atk spd.... There's where the LoH comes into play.... Each tornado that u generate and each hit that hits the mobs, will in return gives u life... So, u need atk spd to make this build as effective as possible since the faster ur hits atk, the faster u get back ur life....
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QUOTE(Aura @ Aug 27 2012, 01:20 PM)
If WW barb, then u need to change to dual wield for better effectiveness.... There's certain mechanics that utilizes atk spd and yes, LoH is important for WW....

The reason is simple, I pointed out that there's certain mechanics that utilizes atk spd.... There's where the LoH comes into play.... Each tornado that u generate and each hit that hits the mobs, will in return gives u life... So, u need atk spd to make this build as effective as possible since the faster ur hits atk, the faster u get back ur life....
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post Aug 27 2012, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(Aura @ Aug 27 2012, 12:20 PM)
If WW barb, then u need to change to dual wield for better effectiveness.... There's certain mechanics that utilizes atk spd and yes, LoH is important for WW....

The reason is simple, I pointed out that there's certain mechanics that utilizes atk spd.... There's where the LoH comes into play.... Each tornado that u generate and each hit that hits the mobs, will in return gives u life... So, u need atk spd to make this build as effective as possible since the faster ur hits atk, the faster u get back ur life....
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Example Hi LOH n ATACK SPEED

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/zhong-6483/hero/5890335

I also follow his build, I think not cheap..
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post Aug 27 2012, 01:25 PM

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ic. i nvr tot WW consider attack speed.

my tactic now is WW till no fury or low hp

then turn on ignore pain (ignorance bliss) to gain HP with warth of berserker to increase dmg
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QUOTE(vegebotak @ Aug 27 2012, 02:18 PM)
Example Hi LOH n ATACK SPEED

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/zhong-6483/hero/5890335

I also follow his build, I think not cheap..
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Honestly really not cheap bro mine barb ww tornado now spend more then 200m dy. Tats y I just focus one character only, now I dont enough gold to spend my my character.... poor dy....
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post Aug 27 2012, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(xander @ Aug 27 2012, 01:25 PM)
ic. i nvr tot WW consider attack speed.

my tactic now is WW till no fury or low hp

then turn on ignore pain (ignorance bliss) to gain HP with warth of berserker to increase dmg
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Well, I just pointed why atk spd has a direct relationship with LoH only.... Not necessarily have to follow....

But in order to get the best out of it, this is what u should aim for only....

Also, one more thing to point out, ignore pain can't be really used as ur main source of healing.... Most likely in ur scenario, ignore pain is only a panic button when u r low on health and u just WW out of the mobs....
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QUOTE(present me @ Aug 27 2012, 01:46 PM)
Honestly really not cheap bro mine barb ww tornado now spend more then 200m dy. Tats y I just focus one character only, now I dont enough gold to spend my my character.... poor dy....
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People keep coming back since patch 104.
I think the price at AH reaches its all time high.

I just sold my boots for 5m yesterday.
I posted it at AH for 2m few weeks ago and it turned out no one wanted it.

Be patient... hold our horses.
We will get cheap items for our Barbs soon... real soon. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Aug 27 2012, 02:50 PM)
People keep coming back since patch 104.
I think the price at AH reaches its all time high.

I just sold my boots for 5m yesterday.
I posted it at AH for 2m few weeks ago and it turned out no one wanted it.

Be patient... hold our horses.
We will get cheap items for our Barbs soon... real soon.  laugh.gif
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yesterday I sold one legendary bracer 15m only, when i show u tat day, not in half n hour sold dy so hotcakes.. ^^

Now I notice have alot player focus of legendary item now, but my situation focus loot legendary for sell biggrin.gif


Now a day plyer find his gear like trend ofcos tat price too high like branded ,i going my way to find less plyer wan it.... ofcos more cheaper until break... LoL..


Finally I really sacrifice my now barb rebuild from few day ago... now I stop spend gold from my barb..

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QUOTE(present me @ Aug 27 2012, 01:46 PM)
Honestly really not cheap bro mine barb ww tornado now spend more then 200m dy. Tats y I just focus one character only, now I dont enough gold to spend my my character.... poor dy....
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i think with the Para Paragon now, most will concentrate 1 char to build up their Para Paragon level hmm.gif

i got a fren with 6 lvl 60 characters : 2 monk and 1 of each class, headache to choose which class he want to Up Paragon...hehe

for me a simple choice since 1 only got 1 char lvl 60..
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QUOTE(HaRuaN.X @ Aug 27 2012, 03:15 PM)
i think with the Para Paragon now, most will concentrate 1 char to build up their Para Paragon level  hmm.gif

i got a fren with 6 lvl 60 characters : 2 monk and 1 of each class, headache to choose which class he want to Up Paragon...hehe

for me a simple choice since 1 only got 1 char lvl 60..
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Sory I say paragon level not important for me, my situation I need to know my luck every day I was ply wht item I loot... tat is my point.

if I already p50 level just a two legendary I get was nice item dont wan to say crap stuff.. so wht.. u so fall spend alot of time get high paragon level wht u get..?


blizzard ccompany wont reward u the first get 100paragon level..

Tats y like u said I just using one my barb character go for paragon level only, I wont greedy easy to focus bro....
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with the new patch 1.0.4, I think Rend (700%) is really nice for damaging enemy gangbang. biggrin.gif

can survive up until Ghom. But without LoH & only 13k DPS(1Handed+1Shield), I could not defeat it. sad.gif

tried with +1300 LoH dual handed axe, but stil cant survive.. attack speed too slow me thinks.


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QUOTE(present me @ Aug 27 2012, 02:31 PM)
Sory I say paragon level  not important for me, my situation I need to know my luck every day I was ply wht item I loot... tat is my point.

if I already p50 level just a two legendary I get was nice item dont wan to say crap stuff.. so wht.. u so fall spend alot of time get high paragon level wht u get..?
blizzard ccompany wont reward u the first get 100paragon level..

Tats y like u said I just using one my barb character go for paragon level only, I wont greedy easy to focus bro....
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i think you get about 300STR and 200VIT as well rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(Renekton @ Aug 27 2012, 04:10 PM)
i think you get about 300STR and 200VIT as well  rclxub.gif
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Lol....I hope so...
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QUOTE(four_add @ Aug 27 2012, 02:57 PM)
with the new patch 1.0.4, I think Rend (700%) is really nice for damaging enemy gangbang. biggrin.gif

can survive up until Ghom. But without LoH & only 13k DPS(1Handed+1Shield), I could not defeat it. sad.gif

tried with +1300 LoH dual handed axe, but stil cant survive.. attack speed too slow me thinks.
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Try 2200+ LOH, you'll whack him like a boss.

By the way, the overpower (CA) trick doesn't work anymore?
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post Aug 27 2012, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Aug 27 2012, 03:21 PM)
Try 2200+ LOH, you'll whack him like a boss.

By the way, the overpower (CA) trick doesn't work anymore?
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yes, same for molten / plague elite.. but now arcane more "friendly" tongue.gif
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post Aug 27 2012, 03:36 PM

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even with 1.04 WW Barb is still the majority build out there..

i'm still testing testing any nice build with those skill the revamp in 1.04, so far Rend with the 900% damage rune is the best i use (test test), havent try other combo skill yet, heard hammer of ancient & siesmic slam also nice skill...
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QUOTE(amiranna @ Aug 27 2012, 03:24 PM)
yes, same for molten / plague elite.. but now arcane more "friendly"  tongue.gif
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Yeap, generally you can just stand there and whack.

But need to be very careful as well. Sometimes molten+desecrator combo can really drain the HP fast.
And sometimes, you didn't aware you step right in the middle of arcane. laugh.gif
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post Aug 27 2012, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Aug 27 2012, 03:21 PM)
Try 2200+ LOH, you'll whack him like a boss.

By the way, the overpower (CA) trick doesn't work anymore?
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havent tried overpower yet. with the heal rune right?
I dont have enough money to buy rare weapon with decent LoH.

My build really depends on rune that can recover health. Cant really depend on Revenge with that 30% chance. Thats why I opt for Rend replacing Furious Charge since Rend have high damage output. For me, Rend is now the skill used to damage mobs since patch 1.0.4 smile.gif
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QUOTE(four_add @ Aug 27 2012, 03:43 PM)
havent tried overpower yet. with the heal rune right?
I dont have enough money to buy rare weapon with decent LoH.

My build really depends on rune that can recover health. Cant really depend on Revenge with that 30% chance. Thats why I opt for Rend replacing Furious Charge since Rend have high damage output. For me, Rend is now the skill used to damage mobs since patch 1.0.4  smile.gif
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No... He meant Overpower with Crushing Advance rune..... That rune is nerfed.... I noticed it when I tried it yesterday.... The best way to recover health still is Revenge and Ignore Pain coupled together provided that u can take some punishment.... Otherwise, Furious Charge will be ur best bet.... If u r undergeared, then u must think about mobility more....

There's another way to do it which is using weapon throw build plus 2h weapon.... Most likely that's ur ticket to beat Ghom... Since u dun need to go near to inflict dmg, u can complete it with no problems.... All u hav to do is to stand on open safe spaces which the poison cannot get to u then u weapon throw till Ghom dies....

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