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post Jul 27 2012, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 26 2012, 04:05 PM)
Revenge also depends on how many enemy hits you receive.
If you are surrounded by 5-6 monsters, you will have greater HP recovery.
If only one monster hits you, the HP recovery is quite negligible.
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Revenge doesn't rely on how many enemy hits u receive... That's for proc chances... It's how many enemies u hit.... The more enemies u hit, the more healing u receive.... Revenge is also based on % also.... The more HP u hav, the more healing u receive....

Furthermore, barbs will always be surrounded with enemies anyways.... So, Revenge is bread and butter for barbs....

QUOTE(present me @ Jul 27 2012, 03:25 AM)
my barb did u see any LoH...but i still cant tank too long...mostly the fire chain...so did u can gift some opinion any weak from my inspect....
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Ur build is not designed to tank.... U r designed to dish out DPS.... I suggest swapping out overpower for leap with armor increase rune or stun rune... More beneficial to ur current setup.... Also u still need some sort of healing.... I suggest either stick back to Revenge or use Overpower with Revel rune since ur crit chance is quite ok... U can use Sprint with Running like the wind rune to increase more chances of Overpower to activate....

If skill swap doesn't work, i suggest u to pick up a shield to use temporarily...

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Thks for all of u shave v me ...I try to change some gear for tank,I know my armor was weak ,but yes really cant tank at all... some elite I can't near of them also... but if I change my tank gear Around AR800 hp 40k around n life regeneration but my dps will drop alot can survive facing tank... ?


I have one question to ask, may I know where the equipment have LoH, weapon or any armor?
The Amateur Working Bee
post Jul 27 2012, 01:55 PM

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weapon mostly

some armor do have LOH too, most of them legendaries

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QUOTE(The Amateur Working Bee @ Jul 27 2012, 02:55 PM)
weapon mostly

some armor do have LOH too, most of them legendaries
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However thks... but I was saw alot player use barb dint have LoH at all , less life regeneration n armor around 7k also... I can't imagine how to survive a2 a3 a4 ..
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post Jul 27 2012, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(present me @ Jul 27 2012, 02:03 PM)
However thks... but I was saw alot player use barb dint have LoH at all , less life regeneration n armor around 7k also... I can't imagine how to survive a2 a3 a4 ..
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depends on your build and strategy, some ppl's playstyle is diff, what suits them might not suit you even thou it works, best is to keep a rather open mind, unless its bullocks that is ahahah
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post Jul 27 2012, 02:07 PM

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i love the WW build but my barb too weak, always tiok one hitted in act3. LOL...
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post Jul 27 2012, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(present me @ Jul 27 2012, 01:49 PM)
I have one question to ask, may I know where the equipment have LoH, weapon or any armor?
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Weapon, amulet, rings.


Added on July 27, 2012, 2:43 pm
QUOTE(SpikeTwo @ Jul 27 2012, 02:07 PM)
i love the WW build but my barb too weak, always tiok one hitted in act3. LOL...
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You need WW+LOH combo.

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post Jul 27 2012, 02:55 PM

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any idea if 2 barbarian playing, 1 using Invigorate and the other one use Impunity,
will both affect party?
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post Jul 27 2012, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(sovietmah @ Jul 27 2012, 02:55 PM)
any idea if 2 barbarian playing, 1 using Invigorate and the other one use Impunity,
will both affect party?
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it will replace each other lol, so both of u must decide which one both of you want
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 27 2012, 03:41 PM)
Weapon, amulet, rings.


Added on July 27, 2012, 2:43 pm
You need WW+LOH combo.
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Ok so I wan share v u all one... question is did u came of cross experience for barb tank mostly u boost ur AR...u search from AH did u find all res only, physical n all Res,poison n all Res n fire n all res ?

further up u will boost AR normally u will satisfied w/o (warcry)how much ?
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post Jul 27 2012, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(present me @ Jul 27 2012, 03:02 PM)
Ok so I wan share v u all one... question is did u came of cross experience for barb tank mostly u boost ur AR...u search from AH did u find all res only, physical n all Res,poison n all Res n fire n all res ?

further up u will boost AR normally u will satisfied w/o (warcry)how much ?
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My best armor and AR for my Barb was, 11K+ armor and 1500AR (after War Cry + Mantra of Healing), I couldn't tank too.
If I leaped, it would be 33K+ armor + 1500AR, I could tank for 3 seconds. laugh.gif

Generally, Barb can't really tank.
If you want to tank, you need to have HP recovery too (LOH/Lifesteal/Liferegen etc).
With HP recovery, you can tank longer as you can survive longer. You can survive 5-10 seconds longer and kite or corpse next, perhaps.

Alternatively, you go for DPS.
We can see we have members that opt for DPS now (100K DPS).
The faster you kill, the better chance you survive in battlefield.
You will need to sacrifice some armor and AR for that. And you still need LOH/Lifesteal.

Another Barb we see is the WW + LOH combo + high damage.
It doesn't tank as well. It kills as many and as soon as possible.

In short, Barbs can't really tank, especially come to A3/A4.
I played in public game most of the time for many weeks now and I have not seen one Barb tanker.
The best tanker I've seen so far is a Wizard.

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post Jul 27 2012, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 27 2012, 03:19 PM)
In short, Barbs can't really tank, especially come to A3/A4.
I played in public game most of the time for many weeks now and I have not seen one Barb tanker.
The best tanker I've seen so far is a Wizard.
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time to dig Duckhole and MoodSwing out to tank
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post Jul 27 2012, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(The Amateur Working Bee @ Jul 27 2012, 03:23 PM)
time to dig Duckhole and MoodSwing out to tank
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Duckhole has gone DPS.
Moodswing, can't remember his DPS as a tanker.
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post Jul 27 2012, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 27 2012, 03:24 PM)
Duckhole has gone DPS.
Moodswing, can't remember his DPS as a tanker.
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he finished the game before patch 1.0.3 as tanker, DPS was a side project coz that period many barbs here were complaining DPS is impossible

moodswing was tanker too, he got lazy and went with the 1m budget frenzy, i now also dunno what build hes doing ahahahah

oit moodswing, come ehreeee
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post Jul 27 2012, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(The Amateur Working Bee @ Jul 27 2012, 03:27 PM)
he finished the game before patch 1.0.3 as tanker, DPS was a side project coz that period many barbs here were complaining DPS is impossible

moodswing was tanker too, he got lazy and went with the 1m budget frenzy, i now also dunno what build hes doing ahahahah

oit moodswing, come ehreeee
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I am not sure whether they can stand on a pool of fire/poison/arcane for 30 seconds or not.
I saw a Wizard standing still for more than 1 min tanking, with fire/poison/arcane under his feet + 4 elites surrounded him (other 3 players already dead).
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post Jul 27 2012, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 27 2012, 03:30 PM)
I am not sure whether they can stand on a pool of fire/poison/arcane for 30 seconds or not.
I saw a Wizard standing still for more than 1 min tanking, with fire/poison/arcane under his feet + 4 elites surrounded him (other 3 players already dead).
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able to tank and able to tank+kill is 2 different thing man

tanking AND able to keep your dps alive is also another thing

whats the point of tanking if ur dps die and u can stand there for 1min and cant kill shit till the enrage timer hits?

imho tanking is not an easy job especially on how the AI's are scripted, dunno why players keep using the word "tank" so freely lol
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post Jul 27 2012, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(The Amateur Working Bee @ Jul 27 2012, 03:27 PM)
he finished the game before patch 1.0.3 as tanker, DPS was a side project coz that period many barbs here were complaining DPS is impossible

moodswing was tanker too, he got lazy and went with the 1m budget frenzy, i now also dunno what build hes doing ahahahah

oit moodswing, come ehreeee
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oit. apa mau lol tongue.gif
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post Jul 27 2012, 03:39 PM

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Bought a1h 1k dps weapons. Increase dps but decrease vit. Kill faster or I die faster. Feel little regret now.. Haih...
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QUOTE(moodswingfella @ Jul 27 2012, 03:39 PM)
oit. apa mau lol  tongue.gif
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ur barb no more tanking act3/4 jor?
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post Jul 27 2012, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(The Amateur Working Bee @ Jul 27 2012, 03:34 PM)
able to tank and able to tank+kill is 2 different thing man

tanking AND able to keep your dps alive is also another thing

whats the point of tanking if ur dps die and u can stand there for 1min and cant kill shit till the enrage timer hits?

imho tanking is not an easy job especially on how the AI's are scripted, dunno why players keep using the word "tank" so freely lol
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This i know. We also assume that tanker will have to forego DPS aka kill.

As we talked about tanker, we talk about tanker.
Can Barb tank? With poison/fire/arcane under feet for 30 secs?

By the way, the Wiz that I saw could cause more damage than any of the players.
We were dead most of the time. It was the Wiz that killed those elites.
Wiz' Energy Twister (wicked wind) can cause 252% weapon damage.


Added on July 27, 2012, 3:48 pm
QUOTE(BboyDora @ Jul 27 2012, 03:39 PM)
Bought a1h 1k dps weapons. Increase dps but decrease vit. Kill faster or I die faster. Feel little regret now.. Haih...
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Err... so, now, the monster die first or you die first? laugh.gif

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