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post Jul 28 2012, 07:08 PM

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QUOTE(endau02 @ Jul 28 2012, 04:04 PM)
aiyooo... met minion invulnerable in hell A1... damn hard
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post Jul 29 2012, 04:07 AM

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with 1200 res, 50k hp, and 10k armor is it possible to tank mass arcanes in act 3?
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post Jul 29 2012, 04:31 AM

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with 13k armor using leap - iron impact

and 13k damage with wrath of berserker + almost 20k damage if critical.

is it okay in hell difficulty ?
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post Jul 29 2012, 01:30 PM

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I was rebuild my gear now did u guy experience for barb pls give some opinion to me... 31k Hp, Ar 800-900,Life reg 1380,LoH 800,life steal 3%,but dps low just 20k only, did u sifu i have any weak ?.....by the way I can survive a3 ,if elite had jailer, fire chain, arcane, extra health ice explore... have bit difficult, I need kite n kill ..
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post Jul 29 2012, 01:50 PM

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uh i started to become weird.

i am level 59, with 20k hp

low dps - 3k
with 4k armor
200 AR.



how come you guys manage to get everything high sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Snowcap @ Jul 29 2012, 02:50 PM)
uh i started to become weird.

i am level 59, with 20k hp

low dps - 3k
with 4k armor
200 AR.
how come you guys manage to get everything high  sweat.gif
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Last time I like u in hell mode I just wear 54level item. Only 16hp ,Ar150 ,life regeneration 300,8dps only I can pass hell mode, but come to inferno more difficult then hell mode ×3...I also wan learn from barb sifu teach me....
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post Jul 29 2012, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(present me @ Jul 29 2012, 01:30 PM)
I was rebuild my gear now did u guy experience for barb pls give some opinion to me... 31k Hp, Ar 800-900,Life reg 1380,LoH 800,life steal 3%,but dps low just 20k only, did u sifu i have any weak ?.....by the way I can survive a3 ,if elite had jailer, fire chain, arcane, extra health ice explore... have bit difficult, I need kite n kill ..
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i think u need to top up your HP, 40-50k H.. dps is enough, i finish act 3 and 4 with 18k dps only
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post Jul 29 2012, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(biatche @ Jul 29 2012, 04:07 AM)
with 1200 res, 50k hp, and 10k armor is it possible to tank mass arcanes in act 3?
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First of all, define what do you mean by tank.
For me, tank is standing still and without kiting.

Armor and AR are not enough. You need life regen/life steal/LOH too.

FYI, with 1500AR and 11000 Armor + 650 LOH, I couldn't tank.


Added on July 29, 2012, 4:28 pm
QUOTE(present me @ Jul 29 2012, 01:30 PM)
I was rebuild my gear now did u guy experience for barb pls give some opinion to me... 31k Hp, Ar 800-900,Life reg 1380,LoH 800,life steal 3%,but dps low just 20k only, did u sifu i have any weak ?.....by the way I can survive a3 ,if elite had jailer, fire chain, arcane, extra health ice explore... have bit difficult, I need kite n kill ..
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I could complete A3/A4 with 20K DPS in co-op mode.
I couldn't go solo.

AR800-900 is buffed or unbuffed? What's your armor?

If you can survive A3, you will be able to do A4.
It is normal to have a difficulty to kill elites. It's normal.


Added on July 29, 2012, 4:29 pm
QUOTE(Snowcap @ Jul 29 2012, 01:50 PM)
uh i started to become weird.

i am level 59, with 20k hp

low dps - 3k
with 4k armor
200 AR.
how come you guys manage to get everything high  sweat.gif
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Gear up.

This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Jul 29 2012, 04:29 PM
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post Jul 29 2012, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 29 2012, 04:25 PM)

Gear up.
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post Jul 29 2012, 06:14 PM

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AR800-900 is buffed or unbuffed? What's your armor?
If you can survive A3, you will be able to do A4.
It is normal to have a difficulty to kill elites. It's normal.

my AR 800-900 Already buffed ,ARMOR 7k. Only, but I survive at that moment was co-op, izit good enough.... some time I facing elite possible I wont stick one area from elite kill, I need ply some style to kill them like leap over monster behind...


Added on July 29, 2012, 6:21 pm
QUOTE(amiranna @ Jul 29 2012, 04:43 PM)
i think u need to top up your HP, 40-50k H.. dps is enough, i finish act 3 and 4 with 18k dps only
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OK...if I boost hp, do u think my life regeneration was 1380 can fast recover it... ?

I notice it I use hp like now 31k recover feel ok.. when i was kite n rune, if I gonna boost hp more higher, scare recover slow.... did u?


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QUOTE(present me @ Jul 29 2012, 06:14 PM)
my AR 800-900 Already buffed ,ARMOR 7k. Only, but I survive at that moment was co-op, izit good enough.... some time I facing elite possible I wont stick one area from elite kill, I need ply some style to kill them like leap over monster behind...
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I couldn't go solo with 20K DPS / 10K Armor / 800AR / 45K HP (all unbuffed).

It is expensive to maintain a Barb.
Do you have the resources to upgrade your DPS?
If you have the resources, go revamp your gears and push up your DPS/LOH/HP.


Added on July 29, 2012, 6:33 pm
QUOTE(present me @ Jul 29 2012, 06:14 PM)
OK...if I boost hp, do u think my life regeneration was 1380 can fast recover it... ?

I notice it I use hp like now 31k recover feel ok.. when i was kite n rune, if I gonna boost hp more higher, scare recover slow.... did u?
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You have pretty good life regen.
Improve your DPS and HP.

That's easier said than done.
You may need to have a total revamp of your gears.
You need resources to replace them.

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 29 2012, 07:25 PM)
I couldn't go solo with 20K DPS / 10K Armor / 800AR / 45K HP (all unbuffed).

It is expensive to maintain a Barb.
Do you have the resources to upgrade your DPS?
If you have the resources, go revamp your gears and push up your DPS/LOH/HP.
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Now I rebuild this second time I repair just31k only, when I build the first when I post my inspect share v u,I focus dps c.chance n c.dmg only totally cant tank at all n repair 45k expensive... In my situation now second rebuild my gear I can tank very long above 2minute sometime n I feel now want build LoH until 1k n my Ar900 about... for hp high then now I this k no need, if I go every stuff go high my gear, is not repair expensive, is Ah stuff crazy expensive.. I cant get all perfectly... just I wan can pass this diablo only.....


However thks for ur opinion n share v me alot....
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post Jul 30 2012, 12:16 AM

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QUOTE(present me @ Jul 29 2012, 06:45 PM)
Now I rebuild this second time I repair just31k only, when I build the first when I post my inspect share v u,I focus dps c.chance n c.dmg only totally cant tank at all n repair 45k expensive... In my situation now second rebuild my gear I can tank very long above 2minute sometime n I feel now want build LoH until 1k n my Ar900 about... for hp high then now I this k no need, if I go every stuff go high my gear, is not repair expensive, is Ah stuff crazy expensive.. I cant get all perfectly... just I wan can pass this diablo only.....
However thks for ur opinion n share v me alot....
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One of our forum members just completed A4 Inferno recently.
You may want to check with him on his build. Use that as a guide.
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2346742/+2134
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post Jul 30 2012, 10:09 AM

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ALeUNe, im currently rolling a barb, hope you cna help me out. :-)

I can help you out on Monk. :-)
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post Jul 30 2012, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(present me @ Jul 29 2012, 06:45 PM)
Now I rebuild this second time I repair just31k only, when I build the first when I post my inspect share v u,I focus dps c.chance n c.dmg only totally cant tank at all n repair 45k expensive... In my situation now second rebuild my gear I can tank very long above 2minute sometime n I feel now want build LoH until 1k n my Ar900 about... for hp high then now I this k no need, if I go every stuff go high my gear, is not repair expensive, is Ah stuff crazy expensive.. I cant get all perfectly... just I wan can pass this diablo only.....
However thks for ur opinion n share v me alot....
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It's obvious that ur stats is not balanced.... U need more HP for now to survive longer.... If u dun wanna pump ur DPS, then u need to pump more HP.... Simple as that.... at 20k DPS, it's quite sufficient to complete the game solo.... But at 45k HP, I think u would be better off to have a little more DPS rather than HP.... Why not try pumping ur DPS to at least 30k and c what's the result... I'm very sure that with 30k DPS min with 45k HP, u will complete the game easily..... If u can't complete still, then look at ur skills and also revise on ur playstyle.... Most likely u r cycling ur cooldowns wrongly...
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post Jul 30 2012, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(LifeX @ Jul 30 2012, 10:09 AM)
ALeUNe, im currently rolling a barb, hope you cna help me out. :-)

I can help you out on Monk. :-)
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IMO, you need to go for DPS as Barb.
Forget about tanker Barb that focuses on defensive stats like AR and Armor.

You need crit build to pump up DPS with LOH and HP. Focus on building up DPS/LOH/HP with reasonable 700AR & 7000Armor (that should be sufficient).
Do you calculation and make up your budget. Buy the gears you want carefully as it is expensive to "switch" gears.

Is your Barb at LVL60 now?
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QUOTE(Aura @ Jul 30 2012, 11:17 AM)
It's obvious that ur stats is not balanced.... U need more HP for now to survive longer.... If u dun wanna pump ur DPS, then u need to pump more HP.... Simple as that.... at 20k DPS, it's quite sufficient to complete the game solo.... But at 45k HP, I think u would be better off to have a little more DPS rather than HP.... Why not try pumping ur DPS to at least 30k and c what's the result... I'm very sure that with 30k DPS min with 45k HP, u will complete the game easily..... If u can't complete still, then look at ur skills and also revise on ur playstyle.... Most likely u r cycling ur cooldowns wrongly...
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Yesterday I was a3 co-op in ghom boss place they, really too much enemy n possible elite they, fortunately v have one barb using wwind skills to help us to finish it v ghom boss also... yes I 31k hp really not good enough, I gonna try boost my hp n no choice I try learn wwind build. at that moment killing ghom v all death just one of barb using wwind skill to finish poison crap,but for dps if i boost higher i wil drop something means AR or life reg ... now my Ar 900-1K buffed ,life reg 1200,LoH 1k ,armor7k,dps maintance 21k...now I notice really not easy facing a3 a4.....
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QUOTE(present me @ Jul 30 2012, 03:04 PM)
Yesterday I was a3 co-op in ghom boss place they, really too much enemy n possible elite they, fortunately v have one barb using wwind skills to help us to finish it v ghom boss also... yes I 31k hp really not good enough, I gonna try boost my hp n no choice I try learn wwind build. at that moment killing ghom v all death just one of barb using wwind skill to finish poison crap,but for dps if i boost higher i wil drop something means AR or life reg  ... now my Ar 900-1K buffed ,life reg 1200,LoH 1k ,armor7k,dps maintance 21k...now I notice really not easy facing a3 a4.....
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Honestly speaking, you have good stats, 900-1K AR / 7K Armor / 1K LOH / 1.2K regen.
If you have 20K DPS, it should be good enough for you to complete the game, at least in co-op game.

A3/A4 are meant to be difficult, especially for Barb.
You need to chase the monsters to make your 1st hit. It is pain-in-the-ass.
To make your life easier, get a monk (with Mantra of Healing - Time of Need) and a wizard (with Frost Nova + Diamond Skin + Wicked Twister) in your team and I think you are good to go.

Let me know if you need a Monk service. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 30 2012, 04:21 PM)
Honestly speaking, you have good stats, 900-1K AR / 7K Armor / 1K LOH / 1.2K regen.
If you have 20K DPS, it should be good enough for you to complete the game, at least in co-op game.

A3/A4 are meant to be difficult, especially for Barb.
You need to chase the monsters to make your 1st hit. It is pain-in-the-ass.
To make your life easier, get a monk (with Mantra of Healing - Time of Need) and a wizard (with Frost Nova + Diamond Skin + Wicked Twister) in your team and I think you are good to go.

Let me know if you need a Monk service.  laugh.gif
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Lol..... service from ur monk ...yesterday I meet a few barb very good performance, but monk less performance when I meet, I know u must powerful monk... smile.gif thks for u all first ...
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QUOTE(present me @ Jul 30 2012, 04:10 PM)
Lol..... service from ur monk ...yesterday I meet a few  barb very good performance, but monk less performance when I meet, I know u must powerful monk... smile.gif thks for u all first ...
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he is good, i team with him daily now.

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