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post Jul 26 2012, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(present me @ Jul 26 2012, 03:19 PM)
Helo may I regard barb skills overpower(crushing advance )n revenge ( active ) wht is different, cos when I hits I was pressing it.non stop..when revenge active ...?which one better can survive.. I get confused sometime?
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Revenge is like u get hit then u can click it.
crushing power got cooldown.
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post Jul 26 2012, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(sovietmah @ Jul 26 2012, 04:23 PM)
Revenge is like u get hit then u can click it.
crushing power got cooldown.
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So when I killing my Hp drop at the moment, yes revenge get hurt when I press active, but my hp cant cover 50% ,if I killing, my Hp was dropping I can use overpower get full Hp cover?
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post Jul 26 2012, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(present me @ Jul 26 2012, 04:36 PM)
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So when I killing my Hp drop at the moment, yes revenge get hurt when I press active, but my hp cant cover 50% ,if I killing, my Hp was dropping I can use overpower get full Hp cover?
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If you have decent amount of crit% like let say 40-60% range, use Overpower.

All the crits u deal will lower the cooldown to a point almost spammable otherwise just use Ignore Pain(Ignorance is Bliss) to get your hp back up real quick.

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post Jul 26 2012, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(present me @ Jul 26 2012, 03:36 PM)
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So when I killing my Hp drop at the moment, yes revenge get hurt when I press active, but my hp cant cover 50% ,if I killing, my Hp was dropping I can use overpower get full Hp cover?
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Overpower with Crushing Advance rune highly depend on LoH while Revenge highly depends on total HP since it is % based....
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QUOTE(lamefish @ Jul 26 2012, 04:41 PM)
If you have decent amount of crit% like let say 40-60% range, use Overpower(Crushing advance).

All the crits u deal will lower the cooldown to a point almost spammable otherwise just use Overpower(Revel) to get your hp back up real quick.
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lamefish..my c.c 45% c.dmg340% so which wan I survive when I killing hp getting drop ,so recover my hp back again n again ...usually now using revenge active,but cant survive on the end..?


Lamefish...I love ur inspect ur barb...may I know ur dps can until 200k above was buffed ? wht skill u buff it to dps Max...my inspect just 50dps 31Hp ar600buff c.c45% c.dmg 340%..can buff dmg max 100k above?
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QUOTE(present me @ Jul 26 2012, 03:36 PM)
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So when I killing my Hp drop at the moment, yes revenge get hurt when I press active, but my hp cant cover 50% ,if I killing, my Hp was dropping I can use overpower get full Hp cover?
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i kill gohm, hp reach less than 20%, i press crushing power then hp ges up max.
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QUOTE(Aura @ Jul 26 2012, 03:59 PM)
Overpower with Crushing Advance rune highly depend on LoH while Revenge highly depends on total HP since it is % based....
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Revenge also depends on how many enemy hits you receive.
If you are surrounded by 5-6 monsters, you will have greater HP recovery.
If only one monster hits you, the HP recovery is quite negligible.
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post Jul 26 2012, 04:05 PM

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since someone so lazy lol:



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ps: check out the youtube comments laugh.gif

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QUOTE(sovietmah @ Jul 26 2012, 04:02 PM)
i kill gohm, hp reach less than 20%, i press crushing power then hp ges up max.
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You can use this on certain elites too.
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QUOTE(Aura @ Jul 26 2012, 04:59 PM)
Overpower with Crushing Advance rune highly depend on LoH while Revenge highly depends on total HP since it is % based....
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Iayah I no LoH I just use freezy hit gain life, revenge active n life reg 150 only.... can survive.... facing possible enemy ??


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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 26 2012, 05:05 PM)
Revenge also depends on how many enemy hits you receive.
If you are surrounded by 5-6 monsters, you will have greater HP recovery.
If only one monster hits you, the HP recovery is quite negligible.
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no wonder taty yesterday I facing elite just of 3 unit run fast around me I hits less cant near them, too hurt the fire chain n vortex so I can't recover my hp back.... if u think in my situation use overpower can cover my hp?

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post Jul 26 2012, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(present me @ Jul 26 2012, 04:08 PM)
Iayah I no LoH I just use freezy hit gain life, revenge active n life reg 150 only.... can survive.... facing possible enemy ??


Added on July 26, 2012, 4:16 pm
no wonder taty yesterday I facing elite just of 3 unit run fast around me I hits less cant near them, too hurt the fire chain n vortex so I can't recover my hp back.... if u think in my situation use overpower can cover my hp?
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For my case, overpower is useful to counter certain elites only.
Based on my experience, it is useful to counter those poisonous attacks.

It is difficult to comment since I do not know what kind of elite monsters you encountered.

P/S By the way, do you have LOH? You need LOH for Overpower (CA) to work.


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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jul 26 2012, 04:05 PM)
since someone so lazy lol:



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This guy is indeed good.
She ran for life, dished out 4K-6K damage per hit, and yet she could beat the enrage timer.

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post Jul 26 2012, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(amiranna @ Jul 26 2012, 12:09 PM)
500 dps with loh 597 is enough.. Overpower (Crushing Advance) just let your HP down to 20% press overpower.. your HP will full again.. repeat until u win  biggrin.gif
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Really? No stat wor.. My current axe gt 200+ str and vit. Worry the cool down haven't finish I die ady. Haha...
Anyway thanks. Will try also.
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QUOTE(BboyDora @ Jul 26 2012, 04:42 PM)
Really? No stat wor.. My current axe gt 200+ str and vit. Worry the cool down haven't finish I die ady. Haha...
Anyway thanks. Will try also.
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Ghom fight, you should be fine with 350-400 LOH.
Use Bloodthirst if you find you can't recover enough HP.
You can dual-wield too.
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[quote=ALeUNe,Jul 26 2012, 05:21 PM]
For my case, overpower is useful to counter certain elites only.
Based on my experience, it is useful to counter those poisonous attacks.

It is difficult to comment since I do not know what kind of elite monsters you encountered.

P/S By the way, do you have LOH? You need LOH for Overpower (CA) to work


I dont have LoH 0% I facing mosquito vortex, arcane,ice exploxe,fire chain.....kite n kite but i solution it ..nvm try this overpower training first.... thks...
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QUOTE(present me @ Jul 26 2012, 04:58 PM)
I dont have LoH 0% I facing mosquito vortex, arcane,ice exploxe,fire chain.....kite n kite but i solution it ..nvm try this overpower training first.... thks...
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Without LOH, I wonder how Overpower (CA) will work for you.
Share with us how it goes then.
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[quote=ALeUNe,Jul 26 2012, 05:21 PM]
For my case, overpower is useful to counter certain elites only.
Based on my experience, it is useful to counter those poisonous attacks.

It is difficult to comment since I do not know what kind of elite monsters you encountered.

P/S By the way, do you have LOH? You need LOH for Overpower (CA) to work.



I dint have LoH... I facing mosquito vortex. fire chain
,arcane.. but finally I done it..I try to use overpower training first... thks alot ur opinion...


Added on July 26, 2012, 7:05 pm[quote=ALeUNe,Jul 26 2012, 06:00 PM]
Without LOH, I wonder how Overpower (CA) will work for you.
Share with us how it goes then.
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Sure I show my spect let's shave v ur, see any weak of my barb.. soon...let u sifu teach some....

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post Jul 26 2012, 07:31 PM

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QUOTE(amiranna @ Jul 26 2012, 12:09 PM)
500 dps with loh 597 is enough.. Overpower (Crushing Advance) just let your HP down to 20% press overpower.. your HP will full again.. repeat until u win  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(BboyDora @ Jul 26 2012, 04:42 PM)
Really? No stat wor.. My current axe gt 200+ str and vit. Worry the cool down haven't finish I die ady. Haha...
Anyway thanks. Will try also.
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Just killed ghom solo just now. Its really works. Thanks rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
total death: 4 (coz at first not using the the cooldown properly)
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post Jul 27 2012, 03:25 AM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 26 2012, 06:00 PM)
Without LOH, I wonder how Overpower (CA) will work for you.
Share with us how it goes then.
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my barb did u see any LoH...but i still cant tank too long...mostly the fire chain...so did u can gift some opinion any weak from my inspect....


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post Jul 27 2012, 08:59 AM

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my barb did u see any LoH...but i still cant tank too long...mostly the fire chain...so did u can gift some opinion any weak from my inspect....
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There is no LOH in your current setup. You will need that in A3/A4.

You have quite low HP. Quite low AR too (600+ after WC).
You don't tank. You just can't tank when you fight elites/champions. I believe you have problem to fight normal creeps too.
Half of your HP gone if you receive 2-3 hits. It is pain-in-the-ass to chase the desert hornets.

So, yo don't tank. You just can't tank.
You use dual-wield. You can deliver decent DPS.
What you can do is, use the skill WoTB+EQ(CA) just to kill the elites/champions as fast as you can.

Change your skill and you should be able to do A2.

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post Jul 27 2012, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 27 2012, 08:59 AM)
There is no LOH in your current setup. You will need that in A3/A4.

You have quite low HP. Quite low AR too (600+ after WC).
You don't tank. You just can't tank when you fight elites/champions. I believe you have problem to fight normal creeps too.
Half of your HP gone if you receive 2-3 hits. It is pain-in-the-ass to chase the desert hornets.

So, yo don't tank. You just can't tank.
You use dual-wield. You can deliver decent DPS.
What you can do is, use the skill WoTB+EQ(CA) just to kill the elites/champions as fast as you can.

Change your skill and you should be able to do A2.
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No one can stand on fire unless ur damage reduction is maybe 90%? and LOH 2K? haha

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