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post Jul 17 2012, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(Aura @ Jul 17 2012, 09:39 AM)
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Haha.. Thanks.. No die at all till I killed magda. Maybe tonight try assassin vault ( if no maintenance).
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post Jul 17 2012, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(BboyDora @ Jul 17 2012, 11:18 AM)
Haha.. Thanks.. No die at all till I killed magda. Maybe tonight try assassin vault ( if no maintenance).
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I reckon you need to "upgrade" some of your gears before proceeding to A3 and A4.
If you find you can't solo in A3/A4, go play in co-op game.

You need a group of players with determination.
I played at public game in A3/A4 (until Prime Evil). I met a group of players with full determination.
In A3, I had a monk and a DH (with high DPS). Monk & Barb are excellent combo when it comes to melee (both need to select the right skills).
In A4, I was the only melee hero and there were very good Witch Doctor and Wizard in my group. We played with full determination despite being killed like toufu in A4. Those flying elites that rained fire meteor were the pain-in-the-ass. There were few occasions we met few packs of elites and champions at the same location. We just kept whacking & whacking.
If my memory serves me right, I spent 500-600K of gold on repairs in A4.

In short, you need FULL determination if you play in co-op in A3/A4.
Each player must know the role to play and NEVER give up in whacking the elites (no matter how many of them).
Being killed like toufu is just normal - unless you have god-like gears.

This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Jul 17 2012, 02:16 PM
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post Jul 17 2012, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(alexhee @ Jul 17 2012, 08:58 AM)
You can get a better one of course, that's just an example of an affordable one. Nowadays gears are really expensive  sad.gif ...
I wont go with any of the axe unless i really in tight budget.. But honestly, crit build must have at least 40% crit chance for a better proc chance. If you have a low crit chance and slow attack speed = gg.
This is how my gears look like, u can take a look on the weapon that you should look for.
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Just did a few upgrades on rings, the AR dropped, but armor n dmg increase. Hope it works fine in a2. Gona try it out later =D

QUOTE(Aura @ Jul 17 2012, 09:36 AM)
U dun hav enuf def thus survivability is bad.... U r a dual wielder right?? Try getting a shield instead for now since ur current stats cannot support dual wielding.... Also, take out ruthless and swap in tough as nails or u can take out nerves of steel with tough as nails since ur vit is too low and nerves of steel won't give u a lot of def...

Also, ur stats are quite low.... Pump vit to at least 1k 1st... That should give u a noticeable difference.... U can try pumping more DPS as suggested but I would strongly suggest get ur survivability 1st rather than DPS.... If u can survive longer, u can do more DPS....
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Need to get how many hp and armor for survivability? after upgrading ydae night, i got like 7.4k armor wit 45k hp after buffed wit WC and Enchantress, is it sufficiecint? otherwise i might think of changing my helm to higher Vit with lower crict chance...
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post Jul 17 2012, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(chchan_89 @ Jul 17 2012, 02:04 PM)
Need to get how many hp and armor for survivability? after upgrading ydae night, i got like 7.4k armor wit 45k hp after buffed wit WC and Enchantress, is it sufficiecint? otherwise i might think of changing my helm to higher Vit with lower crict chance...
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Refer to my post... The answer is there... Overall, ur stats ratio is not really balanced....

Also, if u dun have much gold, use a more defensive eq and skills build rather than offensive one cos DPS requires a lot of gold....
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post Jul 17 2012, 02:50 PM

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in act3 wat skill should we use?? any recomended skill setting for solo?
btw wat is the minimum armor and dps need for act3?
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QUOTE(Aura @ Jul 17 2012, 02:35 PM)
Refer to my post... The answer is there... Overall, ur stats ratio is not really balanced....

Also, if u dun have much gold, use a more defensive eq and skills build rather than offensive one cos DPS requires a lot of gold....
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Agree..DPS built is costly, those Crit Chance, Crit Damage & Atk Spd Package together in single EQ would cost a bomb, weapon also with Crit Damage + Slot...fuhhh..this Super Offensive Built need time to collect2 gold, or if lucky enough farm & found nod.gif
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post Jul 17 2012, 02:58 PM

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finally i can solo act 2 inferno d...
solo-ed all the way till found kulle's kepala d n now looking for his blood...
hope no maintenance tonight >.<
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QUOTE(Abbys @ Jul 17 2012, 02:50 PM)
in act3 wat skill should we use?? any recomended skill setting for solo?
btw wat is the minimum armor and dps need for act3?
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I didn't use leap and overpower in A1 & A2.
I only used leap (Iron Impact) and overpower (crushing advance) in A3 & A4.

I used Frenzy in A1 and A2.
I used Bash (Pulverized) in A3/A4.


http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/barb...#33;!.abbcZ

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 17 2012, 03:02 PM)
I didn't use leap and overpower in A1 & A2.
I only used leap (Iron Impact) and overpower (crushing advance) in A3 & A4.

I used Frenzy in A1 and A2.
I used Bash (Pulverized) in A3/A4.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/barb...#33;!.abbcZ
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errr may i know ur armor n dps?

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post Jul 17 2012, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(Abbys @ Jul 17 2012, 03:24 PM)
errr may i know ur armor n dps?
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Just normal.
armor 9000+
dps 21000+
HP 42000+
AR 800+ (Phys resist 900+)
LOH 650+
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post Jul 17 2012, 03:30 PM

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My barb no problem solo in act 2, but keep dies in act 3, now stuck at "Machines of War" really cannot tahan arcane lol..

Armor 7k
Dps 22k
AR 700
HP 42k
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 17 2012, 03:27 PM)
Just normal.
armor 9000+
dps 21000+
HP 42000+
AR 800+ (Phys resist 900+)
LOH 650+
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errrr ok to farm at act3 and act4? elite no problem? cos i near to ur spec also... just no LOH... and 8k armor.... can share ur other skill build? thx.
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maybe i need to invest on LoH after this..
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 17 2012, 01:55 PM)
I reckon you need to "upgrade" some of your gears before proceeding to A3 and A4.
If you find you can't solo in A3/A4, go play in co-op game.

You need a group of players with determination.
I played at public game in A3/A4 (until Prime Evil). I met a group of players with full determination.
In A3, I had a monk and a DH (with high DPS). Monk & Barb are excellent combo when it comes to melee (both need to select the right skills).
In A4, I was the only melee hero and there were very good Witch Doctor and Wizard in my group. We played with full determination despite being killed like toufu in A4. Those flying elites that rained fire meteor were the pain-in-the-ass. There were few occasions we met few packs of elites and champions at the same location. We just kept whacking & whacking.
If my memory serves me right, I spent 500-600K of gold on repairs in A4.

In short, you need FULL determination if you play in co-op in A3/A4.
Each player must know the role to play and NEVER give up in whacking the elites (no matter how many of them).
Being killed like toufu is just normal - unless you have god-like gears.
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Haha.. I get what u mean. Some player just quit When killed couple of times.
Yup. Plan to get some upgrades. Gt outbid by others player at last minutes. 900k ring then I put 3mil at last minutes. Still too low. I guess the fella put 10 mil at less then 1 minutes duration. Haha..
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QUOTE(Abbys @ Jul 17 2012, 03:30 PM)
errrr ok to farm at act3 and act4? elite no problem? cos i near to ur spec also... just no LOH... and 8k armor.... can share ur other skill build? thx.
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With my poor specs, I could hardly solo/farm A3 & A4.
I do not have high DPS & high LOH/life regen.
I have problem to kill 3-4 elites that gang-bang me. Therefore I need to go co-op game.
WotB+EQ will not do the trick for me in A3/A4 solo.
In A4, you'll encounter 2 packs of flying & teleporting elites. Just couldn't go solo.

You'll need LOH, especially when you fight Ghom.
You'll need LOH + overpower (crushing advance) when you fight Ghom.
Otherwise, you'll be killed by its poisonous fart in no time.
Unless you go upgrade your DPS that can kill it in 10 secs.

Here's my skills setup.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/barb...#33;!cabbcZ
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 17 2012, 03:37 PM)
With my poor specs, I could hardly solo/farm A3 & A4.
I do not have high DPS & high LOH/life regen.
I have problem to kill 3-4 elites that gang-bang me. Therefore I need to go co-op game.
WotB+EQ will not do the trick for me in A3/A4 solo.
In A4, you'll encounter 2 packs of flying & teleporting elites. Just couldn't go solo.

You'll need LOH, especially when you fight Ghom.
You'll need LOH + overpower (crushing advance) when you fight Ghom.
Otherwise, you'll be killed by its poisonous fart in no time.
Unless you go upgrade your DPS that can kill it in 10 secs.

Here's my skills setup.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/barb...#33;!cabbcZ
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Ic.... ya i just able to touch ghom 10% hp then poison til me die....
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jul 17 2012, 03:37 PM)
With my poor specs, I could hardly solo/farm A3 & A4.
I do not have high DPS & high LOH/life regen.
I have problem to kill 3-4 elites that gang-bang me. Therefore I need to go co-op game.
WotB+EQ will not do the trick for me in A3/A4 solo.
In A4, you'll encounter 2 packs of flying & teleporting elites. Just couldn't go solo.

You'll need LOH, especially when you fight Ghom.
You'll need LOH + overpower (crushing advance) when you fight Ghom.
Otherwise, you'll be killed by its poisonous fart in no time.
Unless you go upgrade your DPS that can kill it in 10 secs.

Here's my skills setup.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/barb...#33;!cabbcZ
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what is ur passive skills bro?
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post Jul 17 2012, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(Aura @ Jul 17 2012, 02:35 PM)
Refer to my post... The answer is there... Overall, ur stats ratio is not really balanced....

Also, if u dun have much gold, use a more defensive eq and skills build rather than offensive one cos DPS requires a lot of gold....
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jz wann to ask, if i would to sub out 1 of my offensive skill, which will b subout? the ruthless or weapon mastery? which 1 has d less dmg output?
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QUOTE(Abbys @ Jul 17 2012, 03:44 PM)
Ic.... ya i just able to touch ghom 10% hp then poison til me die....
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You will need 400+ LOH + overpower (CA) to kill Ghom.

I think you need high LOH (1200+) or high DPS (100K and above) to farm comfortably in A3/A4.
With my current specs, I tried to survive as long as I could (when it comes to elites fight).
If I go solo, 4 elites gang-rape me. My Enchantress is useless, she's dead even before the elites rape her (to be honest, I have no money to invest in her. Good rings and amulet aren't cheap nowadays). Slim chance to pursue further.
If I go co-op, we still get killed (it's normal) but at least we have 4 human players raped 1 elite at a time and slowly we wiped out all monsters.


Added on July 17, 2012, 3:58 pm
QUOTE(justnits @ Jul 17 2012, 03:45 PM)
what is ur passive skills bro?
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Forgot to include passive skills.

Here it is. Just normal passive skills for Barb.
I used this in A3/A4 (up to prime evil).
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/barb...;bVe!cabbcZ


Added on July 17, 2012, 4:04 pmI use this to kill Diablo.
The WofB+EQ is useful in shadow fight.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/barb...;bVd!cbbZcZ


Added on July 17, 2012, 4:17 pm
QUOTE(BboyDora @ Jul 17 2012, 03:36 PM)
Haha.. I get what u mean. Some player just quit When killed couple of times.
Yup. Plan to get some upgrades. Gt outbid by others player at last minutes. 900k ring then I put 3mil at last minutes. Still too low. I guess the fella put 10 mil at less then 1 minutes duration. Haha..
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I find I have better chance to get a group of players with FULL determination on Saturday and Sunday.
Perhaps people have more time to spend on these days.

Good ring costs at least average 4 millions.
It is rare to find a good ring with below 4 millions nowadays.

This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Jul 17 2012, 04:17 PM
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post Jul 17 2012, 04:25 PM

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With gear becoming cheaper... it seems like DW or 2H is the best way to go now. 1H and shield getting a bit outdated yawn.gif

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