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English Clubs Liverpool FC- The Kop Talk 2012, Bye Dirk Kuyt!

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Burningsunz
post May 20 2012, 05:59 AM

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QUOTE(digilife @ May 20 2012, 05:57 AM)
lets replace Reina with NEUER

Reina caused us much points this season
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QUOTE(hfi @ May 20 2012, 05:44 AM)
That espn host was spot on. Bayern is predictable, they tend to overload one area of the pitch - making it easy to defend against.
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My stream was from "FOX", i cringed when the commentator said "soccer" hahaha.
Anyways, congrats to chelsea; no one can say they didn't deserve it.
And congrats to torres too, he looked so happy sad.gif
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QUOTE(hfi @ May 20 2012, 05:58 AM)
Yes i read that Burn, but that's the writer insinuation and not Capello's words. If he said "I'm not going to Chelsea but Liverpool interests me" then that's credible. It comes from the horse's mouth so to speak.
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im not saying the source is 100% credible, but up until now pep and capello doesnt confirm nor deny that they interested in managing the club yet.
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QUOTE(Burningsunz @ May 20 2012, 06:00 AM)
im not saying the source is 100% credible, but up until now pep and capello doesnt confirm nor deny that they interested in managing the club yet.
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I stick to the mantra, "nothing is true unless it's in an official statement from the club"

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Yeah someone is leaking all this info and i'm not sure who and why. The club has never confirmed nor deny it has 12 names on the list. Yet all these reports seem to be convinced one way or the other.

Maybe it's all pre planned. Maybe they have already identified a target - and maybe that target is not exactly popular among the media and fans. But when they do eventually sign the fella, they will say that they tried to talk to 12 people but everyone has rejected Liverpool and so we can't blame them for their choice.
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QUOTE(hfi @ May 20 2012, 06:04 AM)
Yeah someone is leaking all this info and i'm not sure who and why. The club has never confirmed nor deny it has 12 names on the list. Yet all these reports seem to be convinced one way or the other.

Maybe it's all pre planned. Maybe they have already identified a target - and maybe that target is not exactly popular among the media and fans. But when they do eventually sign the fella, they will say that they tried to talk to 12 people but everyone has rejected Liverpool and so we can't blame them for their choice.
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its possible, up until now, there's still player link to our club, saying formal bid will be made once liverpool appoint a new manager, so if its true that means manager will not have the power to buy the players they wanted but instead have to use whatever player they have in the club which are bought by someone in the club. if thats the case then there;s no way world class manager would wanna join our club so they got no choice but to find those manager with lower reputation.

and if david dein is appointed as DOF then we are screw as well because he is the one advising FSG to sack KD
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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ May 20 2012, 03:40 AM)
I wasn't trying to say Rafa doesn't deserve the credit, in fact I think he deserves it and I thank him for it. My point is when he was given a chance to build his team, he finally made it and came close to success but due to his poor man management skills, his near title winning team broke apart of his own makings. That's all I'm trying to say.
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that's crazy.

if hypotactically a nameless manager wins the Europa cup next year, its KD's squad, the list goes on, & on.

Manager picks the first 11, gets them to drill practice the world week for the weekend match. Manager sets the strategy for the game.

I didnt know Houllier could operate fantasy manager to win the CL. at home, while the whole team is in istanbul.
doh.gif doh.gif

never mind, never mind.

I posted a link in my last post, maybe some of you guys should Really read it, & understand it. cool2.gif

...and this media spun "poor man management skills" doh.gif , some of you should REALLY take a leaf/excerpts from Gerrard's autobiography.



QUOTE(hfi @ May 20 2012, 05:29 AM)
I don't really care if we don;t end up with Rafa. Like i said several times on this thread there are better alternatives. I just find it strange some people are still misinformed and confused about Rafa until today. Hopefully one day he gets to clear the air once and for all.
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he does, all it takes is to read the fan forums in his site & all over other forums, proper football jounalist.

some guys just cannot stomach rafa decided to offload his favourite player idol to raise money to buy barry. Lfc fans need to be objective. cool2.gif & not fantasy football.

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QUOTE(digilife @ May 20 2012, 05:57 AM)
lets replace Reina with NEUER

Reina caused us much points this season
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Its like saying lets replace Carroll with Messi.
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QUOTE(Burningsunz @ May 20 2012, 06:08 AM)
its possible, up until now, there's still player link to our club, saying formal bid will be made once liverpool appoint a new manager, so if its true that means manager will not have the power to buy the players they wanted but instead have to use whatever player they have in the club which are bought by someone in the club. if thats the case then there;s no way world class manager would wanna join our club so they got no choice but to find those manager with lower reputation.

and if david dein is appointed as DOF then we are screw as well because he is the one advising FSG to sack KD
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Wasnt spanish club managers are like this?
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To everyone who wanted 4th place .. well, it means nothing.

If we want Champions League, we have to aim for 1st tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Adryan @ May 20 2012, 08:21 AM)
To everyone who wanted 4th place .. well, it means nothing.

If we want Champions League, we have to aim for 1st tongue.gif
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everyone said bayern played/turn up & bossed chelsea. TO me chelsea was the smarter one. They after all have entered into bayern's lion's den where they (BM) have not been beaten a lot at home, hardly conceded in open play against many oppositions.

To me all bayern did was showing up with tooth pick to poke chelsea whole night, instead of swords, dominating a lot yes, with puszy roar actually. rclxub.gif true chelsea did ride their luck but they have done enough to frustrate BM.

Overall, bayern played rubbish. Absolutely no variation in their attacks despite holding majority of ball possession & attacking. all BM had to show in first half was a shot keeper cech save/hit the bar. Wasted their energy running like headless chickens, thinking they are some matadors. robben & ribery both were equally culprits destroying their BM own chances even if did headways.

and the arrogance (of their manager) thinking they already won it 4 minutes to the end, shifting in an unorthodox player in their formation. never learn, they never learn from their '99 failure.

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QUOTE(Adryan @ May 20 2012, 07:21 AM)
To everyone who wanted 4th place .. well, it means nothing.

If we want Champions League, we have to aim for 1st tongue.gif
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Well i did say the only way to justify being out of top 4 is chelsea winning CL.

Anyway,it's hardly surprising considering many posters on here were saying chelsea were similar to us in 2005 being the underdogs.

Not like it's bad news for us anyway after the FA cup defeat.Good thing is tottenham is missing out CL spot and they are gonna go down thumbup.gif

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Chelsea won the UCL in almost the same fashion we did in Istanbul.. well, obviously not even close to being the epic that was Istanbul.. but they did it as underdogs.

Congrats to them.
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so now means no CL for spurs next season correct? then i remembered Bale said he would quit spurs if no CL football... i say please get him!
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QUOTE(Petre @ May 20 2012, 08:25 AM)
so now means no CL for spurs next season correct? then i remembered Bale said he would quit spurs if no CL football... i say please get him!
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Yup because we have CL and he wants to play with stars like downing and adam,
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QUOTE(koolspyda @ May 20 2012, 07:41 AM)
everyone said bayern played/turn up & bossed chelsea. TO me chelsea was the smarter one. They after all have entered into bayern's lion's den where they (BM) have not been beaten a lot at home, hardly conceded in open play against many oppositions.

To me all bayern did was showing up with tooth pick to poke chelsea whole night, instead of swords, dominating a lot yes, with puszy roar actually.  rclxub.gif true chelsea did ride their luck but they have done enough to frustrate BM.

Overall, bayern played rubbish. Absolutely no variation in their attacks despite holding majority of ball possession & attacking. all BM had to show in first half was a shot keeper cech save/hit the bar. Wasted their energy running like headless chickens, thinking they are some matadors. robben & ribery both were equally culprits destroying their BM own chances even if did headways.

and the arrogance (of their manager) thinking they already won it 4 minutes to the end, shifting in an unorthodox player in their formation. never learn, they never learn from their '99 failure.
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I actually disagree. I thought Bayern did well. I still prefer to watch that kind of football amassing 40 shots and more possession. They didn't do nothing wrong eccept being wasteful. Robben only hit the target once from open play and the ball HITS THE POST. Mario Gomez .. scored 48 goals in 53 games before the final, fails to test the keeper from a good chance. Then he misses the penalty which could have won it for them. Then Olic squares it to van Buyten, who didn't follow up his run and that would have been an easy goal.

I know Chelsea defended well (Ashley Cole and Gary Cahill) and all that but I think this season was their season. Luck also played a part, like it did during the Barcelona semi final. Yes, it's arguable that Barca had all the ball, all the shots but just not the goals while Chelsea scored when it matters but it's still funny how in two games running, they score from just about one or two chances at goal whilst being dominated by the opponents. Scored from their only corner today as well!

And I don't think the manager felt he has won the cup. It was more of bringing a centre back to protect the lead but he should never had taken Muller off.

Bayern has only themselves to blame. They got into good positions but never took advantage of it.


QUOTE(Rotuham @ May 20 2012, 08:17 AM)
Well i did say the only way to justify being out of top 4 is chelsea winning CL.

Anyway,it's hardly surprising considering many posters on here were saying chelsea were similar to us in 2005 being the underdogs.

Not like it's bad news for us anyway after the FA cup defeat.Good thing is tottenham is missing out CL spot and they are gonna go down thumbup.gif
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But to be fair, that 2005 Liverpool squad was not very good in comparison to the 2007 one or the runners up in 2008/2009 but I don't think we played like Chelsea. I can remember vividly that we actually attacked as well.

But what I mean is, we should not be aiming for top four solely, we should aim for the top and if we don't get that, we'd have consolation of Champions League biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Rotuham @ May 20 2012, 08:29 AM)
Yup because we have CL and he wants to play with stars like downing and adam,
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dont worry, we have progress...


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Lol, I feel bitter that Torres gets the UCL trophy. Am I bad? sad.gif
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QUOTE(Adryan @ May 20 2012, 08:43 AM)
I actually disagree. I thought Bayern did well. I still prefer to watch that kind of football amassing 40 shots and more possession. They didn't do nothing wrong eccept being wasteful. Robben only hit the target once from open play and the ball HITS THE POST. Mario Gomez .. scored 48 goals in 53 games before the final, fails to test the keeper from a good chance. Then he misses the penalty which could have won it for them. Then Olic squares it to van Buyten, who didn't follow up his run and that would have been an easy goal.

I know Chelsea defended well (Ashley Cole and Gary Cahill) and all that but I think this season was their season. Luck also played a part, like it did during the Barcelona semi final. Yes, it's arguable that Barca had all the ball, all the shots but just not the goals while Chelsea scored when it matters but it's still funny how in two games running, they score from just about one or two chances at goal whilst being dominated by the opponents. Scored from their only corner today as well!

And I don't think the manager felt he has won the cup. It was more of bringing a centre back to protect the lead but he should never had taken Muller off.

Bayern has only themselves to blame. They got into good positions but never took advantage of it.
But to be fair, that 2005 Liverpool squad was not very good in comparison to the 2007 one or the runners up in 2008/2009 but I don't think we played like Chelsea. I can remember vividly that we actually attacked as well.

But what I mean is, we should not be aiming for top four solely, we should aim for the top and if we don't get that, we'd have consolation of Champions League biggrin.gif
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Yup that's actually our problem.We used to aim for the league but fell in the cl places.Now we are aiming for cl places we are falling below that.

I guess it has a lot to do with shankly's saying.


Added on May 20, 2012, 9:38 am
QUOTE(Petre @ May 20 2012, 09:07 AM)
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dont worry, we have progress...
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you got me there laugh.gif

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if chelsea dump di matteo,, i wuld happy to have him here,,, he's tactically genius

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