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English Clubs Liverpool FC- The Kop Talk 2012, Bye Dirk Kuyt!

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hfi
post May 15 2012, 04:54 PM

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Please stop talking sense Sols. You're just making people angrier.
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post May 15 2012, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(hfi @ May 15 2012, 04:54 PM)
Please stop talking sense Sols. You're just making people angrier.
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I m not pro KD , not anti KD...I m neutral. If anyone disagree with my opinion, they are entitled to. As long as they dont throw in personal attacks and insult, any argument/discussion is welcomed.

On another note, hfi, are you ready for the day we have two wigan players/staff in our squad? Martinez as manager, Diame as midfield general. laugh.gif tongue.gif
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post May 15 2012, 05:24 PM

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I've pretty much said everything I have to say about Kenny. Seems we're all going round and round the same bush by now. In any case, I came across this piece which is pretty well written. Although the author is pretty much in the same boat as someone like me, he acknowledges our shortcomings.

http://www.thisisanfield.com/2012/05/why-k...erpool-forward/
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post May 15 2012, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(led_zep_freak @ May 15 2012, 04:44 PM)
Instead of you telling us Kenny's fault - in which you have presented your case for the 100th time - how about you tell us what Kenny has done right all season?

Honestly, I find a few of your points overly negative and could pick out a few flaws in your argument but humor me for awhile with my question above. I'm sure you can find a few good points unless you truly believe that he has screwed everything up... which incidentally means that he's no better than Roy.
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In a list of Kenny's faults you don't expect me to write the things he did right do you?
I may have said those a 100 times but this is the first time i am lumping all of them in one post.

You should have noticed i said in the last point that he failed to learn from most of mistake not
Since you asked,i will write it down.

1)Positive football unlike the football played under rafa and houllier which were too rigid.Even our centrebacks and fullbacks get involved in attacks.

2) Kept the defence tight all season with us conceding the third least in the league.It could have been better if not for reina's mistakes.

3)Playing bellamy on the wings which was a fruitful move.Bellamy is even better than he was last time.

4)Ending our trophy drought by winning the carling cup beating difficult teams on the road away.

5)Didn't fear dropping carragher for the excellent skrtel-agger pairing.

6)Protect the players from injuries which was a frequent thing under rafa.

Overall,the negatives still outweigh the positives which is why i don't want him to continue just like the majority as seen in the polls above wink.gif

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post May 15 2012, 05:30 PM

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if KD leaves now, who is going to sit in the empty chair?
if can't get someone better, better just stick with him... recently liverpool dumb quite a number of management people... owner is working hard to clear all the debts left by the previous owner...

from my view, it really takes time for liverpool to go back top 4... major overhaul needed seriously... let's see how is lucas and adam doing next season... n hopefully hendersson and caroll can be more awake... =)
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post May 15 2012, 05:37 PM

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Villareal are relegated from the league.. it's shame if liverpool failed to grab afew quality player from there
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QUOTE(skeleton202 @ May 15 2012, 05:37 PM)
Villareal are relegated from the league.. it's shame if liverpool failed to grab afew quality player from there
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More likely to grab players from wolves and blackburn.
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QUOTE(Rotuham @ May 15 2012, 05:39 PM)
More likely to grab players from wolves and blackburn.
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thumbup.gif At least their players wont cost more than 20mil....Seriously if King Kenny can transform Yakubu or Stephen Fletcher into superstars, I really don't mind if we raid those clubs.



Question is, can he?

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Nilmar, Rossi, Machena, Senna, Musacchio, Lopez, Valero and Zapata... These players are decent players to be added.... Wonder why they can relegated with these players in their squad.
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QUOTE(Rotuham @ May 15 2012, 05:39 PM)
More likely to grab players from wolves and blackburn.
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fletcher - 20m
yakubu - 5m
jarvis - 20m
hoilet - free
nzonzi - 5m

50m are well spent
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QUOTE(carloz28 @ May 15 2012, 05:41 PM)
thumbup.gif At least their players wont cost more than 20mil....Seriously if King Kenny can transform Yakubu or Stephen Fletcher into superstars, I really  don't mind if we raid those clubs.
Question is, can he?
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I wan Fletcher actually... His goal ratio is not bad considering the services he got.... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ May 15 2012, 05:44 PM)
Nilmar, Rossi, Machena, Senna, Musacchio, Lopez, Valero and Zapata... These players are decent players to be added.... Wonder why they can relegated with these players in their squad.
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3 managers in just 3 seasons, let this be a lesson for people on not changing your manager after 1 bad season
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ May 15 2012, 05:45 PM)
I wan Fletcher actually... His goal ratio is not bad considering the services he got.... biggrin.gif
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If I'm J. Henry, I wont sanction any move to buy any English players. Expensive and overrated + we only have 20mil.

A move for Stephen Fletcher alone will dry up our coffers and wolves just caught a big sheep in Liverpool.

Will look for continental talents instead.

Haven't we learn our lesson already?
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QUOTE(carloz28 @ May 15 2012, 05:50 PM)
If I'm J. Henry, I wont sanction any move to buy any English players. Expensive and overrated + we only have 20mil.

A move for Stephen Fletcher alone will dry up our coffers and wolves just caught a big sheep in Liverpool.

Will look for continental talents instead.

Haven't we learn our lesson already?
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How about freebies? Like ba.... Apparently, Reo Coker can leave on free because of clause in his contract. Certainly, he is better than Spearing tongue.gif
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ May 15 2012, 06:44 PM)
Nilmar, Rossi, Machena, Senna, Musacchio, Lopez, Valero and Zapata... These players are decent players to be added.... Wonder why they can relegated with these players in their squad.
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Raiding Spanish players? Think not hmm.gif

some might say they are good enough hence the relegation. sweat.gif
But their salary.... I don't think any will be considered


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Why not raid bundesliga? There are plenty of talent.Germany is the next best thing to spain.

Newcastle got papiss cisse from bundesliga.He was the second top scorer there before coming to EPL.

Even united are looking to buy kagawa.

I doubt kenny will do that since he likes british players too much.
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QUOTE(skeleton202 @ May 15 2012, 05:49 PM)
3 managers in just 3 seasons, let this be a lesson for people on not changing your manager after 1 bad season
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Not entirely true.

Should have stick with Rafa a little longer and sack clueless chin rubbing Woy THE MOMENT when FSG first came in. Why wait until the summer?

I think majority of Liverpool fans have a serious problem of identifying and distinguishing between a bad coach and a good coach.

I think the ROT began after we sacked Rafa and until now it is not showing any signs of improvement.

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QUOTE(koolspyda @ May 15 2012, 06:10 PM)
Raiding Spanish players? Think not hmm.gif

some might say they are good enough hence the relegation.  sweat.gif
But their salary.... I don't think any will be considered
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Meh...If only Senna is a few years younger...I dont mind taking him... Add some steel to the sissy midfielders we have...
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post May 15 2012, 06:28 PM

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QUOTE(solstice818 @ May 15 2012, 05:02 PM)
I m not pro KD , not anti KD...I m neutral. If anyone disagree with my opinion, they are entitled to. As long as they dont throw in personal attacks and insult, any argument/discussion is welcomed.

On another note, hfi, are you ready for the day we have two wigan players/staff in our squad? Martinez as manager, Diame as midfield general. laugh.gif  tongue.gif
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Can't say i'll be thrilled but you never know. Valencia hired Rafa (after 3 other managers turned them down) when he had no experience managing the big clubs. Not saying we gonna win the league with someone like Martinez, but you just never know until you try. I've not seen Diame played so i've no idea what he's like. Have you seen much of him ?

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