I think the 308Vti/Turbo one is for the 308T 4 speed version...the 6 speed version cost more to service the gearbox..I think Kenso's one is updated

kenso has the latest costs. 308T6 and 408T6 have similar service costs while 408 2.0 (similar to 407) is slightly cheaper over a period of 100,000km or 5 years whichever comes first.

huh? I thought it is unlimited mileage warranty in within 5 years?

Bro, you are talking abt warranty or service/parts?

Warranty doesn't incl servicing cost and parts used for servicing example oil, filter etc.

It Depends on the promotion period.

Some even get 3 years free service/parts and warranty too...some only 5 years warranty.

Azbro is right ... I believe the data you presented in the chart is based on the 4 speeder as it correlates to my bills when I was servicing my AL4 308THP while it was in my possession.

Similarly as the 308VTi is cheaper to service compared to the 308THP, so shall it be for the 408 2.0 (being cheaper than the 1.6T) although I don't have details of the costing yet.

ops sorry bro, i didn't read the post clearly. My bad my bad

Finally, had my chance for the test drive after missing the test drive appt for a couple of weekends. Had the 408T from the Puchong Nasim branch. The SA was very friendly but he know nuts about his product and he told me he has been selling cars for 20+ years. Ex-Proton, Toyota, etc. Ha ha ha...

The test drive was from the Nasim show room near IOI Mall, Puchong. Down to Kesas and U-turn half-way before reaching the Shell gas station on the Kesas highway.

The pick-up has the pull-back feeling, engine is very responsive, especially on overtaking cars on the crowded highway, probably one of the best in his class. Gear shifting was very smooth, thanks to the 6-speeder. The road handling is good, I don't feel any body roll but maybe the ride was too short and KESAS does not have a bending corner like the MEX highway, especially in between the Sri Petaling exit and the Bukit Jalil stadium, that I could really test the road handling.

The cabin feels spacey. the leather seats gave it a more classy look. My HM who is about 5ft9in, says the seats are comfortably position, and knee room the best, again, in it's class. The dashboard and interior is not too cheapo looking, and some of the chrome look gave it a more classy feel and the material is definitely not all hard plastic.

The car comes with speed-control autolock, manual and auto power fold mirror, the sound (radio+CD) was decent, the control was easy for me enough (I am pretty tech-savvy), both on the HU and on the steering wheel. The boot size is deep and large for its class.

For me, I brought along a 16GB NTFS and 2GB FAT32 USB stick with the same set of MP3 and WMA songs (less than 30 songs). The HU cannot detect!!! Due to time limitation, does not have chance to test the Bluetooth pairing for hands-free calls or play songs. I also haven't got time to check to see if got or not or where the AUX port is located.

The side mirror is too small for my liking, so I could miss some blind spots. My HM says the ride was firm at the back and she could feel the road. Driver side I am used to a firm handling, so I don't feel it much. Too bad they couldn't have flat floor on the back row.

On the HU, besides lacking a Reverse Cam+DVD player, I can only see the ciggie lighter port(?) next to the hand-brake, and I can't seem to locate another 12V port. Problem is if I need to charge an external GPS and SmartPhone, surely this is a problem. Ya, ya I can put GPS into SmartPhone, but if you have 2 - 3 devices that need charging? Perhaps, there is another 12V port somewhere in the car

Lastly, the NVH. I have to admit, I have been in cars with better NVH, as even when I off the radio, I can still detect quite of bit of wind and road noise. Do I need after-market solution like AutoFoam to enhance the NVH? The SA show me a (photostat) picture of RC+GPS+AVN add-on option by "supposedly" Naza authorized accessories supplier, NZ Galaxy, saying it will cost about RM3K++ but internal meeting to decide whether it is official or not later. Warranty dunno yet. What a sales guy!

For me, I would rate it as a "BUY" category. I am a family guy, who is in the sales line and I need something more "mature" looking car, preferably conti, with performance, tech, space and within reasonable budget. The 408T fits most of it. On the exterior, I doubt many people (apart from hard-core basher) would consider the front ugly looking. On the back, it is plain and unexciting but I can live with it, much better that the 207

I can see why for singles, young yuppies or young couples, the 408 is not your cup of tea. 2nd hand value, FC and maint cost is admittedly, not on the winning side. If the facelift 308 maintain the old grille face but with the rest of the other features add-on, plus old price, I feel this will be very irresistible to a lot of people. Of course for me, 2608mm vs 2710mm wheelbase is still a big factor for me to consider.

All comments are by yours truly, and in no way should taken into consideration when buying your dream car. Buy what you like, you will be driving it. If you like, you buy. If not, look somewhere else

This reminds me that I should bring USB/Hard Disk when inspecting the car. There's another power port on the back of rear seat meant for rear passenger.

Mind sharing which car in C-segment with better NVH. I've been in Civic, Elantra & Mazda3 but it seems that 408 have better NVH when comparing with these 3. But then I wasn't able to cruise at more than 70 km/h on Elantra & Mazda3 due to short test drive route so my observation might've been incorrect.

From the way you've put it, make me feel like I'm old already

408 starting at RM 107,000.....nice car

kindda scary to know that the test drive unit cant detect ur USB drive. Tested from the same branch and didnt thought of bringing my USB drive.

Would bring my USB drive to test when i collect my car later. Yea i got the same views as you too. Not that appealing to singles and young couples due to 2nd hand value, FC and Maintainance.

But im under the young couple category and the reason we chose that car is because its what it has to offer. Cause afterall we buy a car is because we really like it and wanna enjoy it

That's the spirit No such thing as perfect car vs perfect price...

My only negative view is that Peugeot could have put in a bit more sexy and sleek looks on this model! Presently it looks like an Altis on steroids. As for performance,NVH, I am very satisfied.For the money I feel it brings a fair bit of advanced technology!
Before my final decission, I had tested 3 different D segment (2 Korean 1 Jap ) and 1 other C segment cars. The engines of the Korean cars roared loudly upon hard acceleration. The Jap D segment car had horrible feel,steering felt like jellow! But this is a very successful D segment car in Malaysia.
Power delivery by the 1.6 turbo was smooth and effortless. The electro-hydraulic steering of the 408 had the right amount of tautness with accurate and precise feel.

This post has been edited by SKYjack: Jun 24 2012, 11:04 AM

Age is just a figure Your mindset is more important

I managed to hit about 140km/h, but start noticing the wind and road noise at about 120km/h. On the NVH, you are right. You probably need to double up the 408 budget to get these kind of super quiet ride. Luckily, there are still the after-market noise insulators and foaming solution that doesn't cause an arm and a leg to minimize the NVH....

Budget wise, my opinion is the 408 is a good mix for young and "mature" owners. Think "Fast & Furious" Vs "The Family Guy".

If you are really "old", you would be like some other "apek", sure recommend to buy 7/8-year old Merc or 2nd hand D-segment Jap car

However, with all this being said, I still want to test the Focus 2012 before deciding. Pls don't call me a hypocrite. Just want to make sure I am putting my money (as little I have of it ) on my best possible ride...

Looking forward to your view on the Focus. Now that's what I call is a sleek & sexy looking car. Was very keen on this untill Ford dropped the TDCi for the Malaysian market. So sad......

Why should you be a hypocrite when its your own money and you're entitled to to shop around for your vehicle to suit your priorities. Happy hunting, bro .... I'm also extremely curious about the new Focus ... any idea when will it be launched?

I can't help but notice you didn't answer SKYjack's question. What other C segment with this price range that offers NVH that's superior (if not equal) to the 408?

Kenso, thanks. That's the fun of buying something that cost quite a bit of $$$. You look at reviews, people's opinion (both good and bad), compare and make an informed decision.

Actually I did. Quote "On the NVH, you are right. You probably need to double up the 408 budget to get these kind of super quiet ride. Luckily, there are still the after-market noise insulators and foaming solution that doesn't cause an arm and a leg to minimize the NVH...."

In the C-segment, not much you can do without after-market add-on. On the NVH, possibly only HE is a closest competitor...not Forte 6-speeder where engine noise is hoarse when climbing to higher torque and the Japs C-segment cars, they sacrifice NVH qualities, to make the car affordable in our market...

I also planned to wait for Focus 2012 before making my decision, but based on their current model pricing, it's slightly over my budget. If they launced it around the price of 408 2.0 then...

Anyway, I agree that in term of NVH, 408 closest competitor is Elantra, but when I florred the accelerator, Elantra's engine (1.8) is noisy and sluggish whereas 408 2.0 is less noisy with noticable power. But then, I'm shifting from '89 Toyota Corolla (AE92) to Peugeot 408 2.0, so it's a huge upgrade already.

You can rest assure the Focus will be priced no where near the 408NA. NAZA has very cleverly priced this model.
The Elantra, although impressive, interior seemed very toyish! 408NA interior is far more classy!

Kejusan, seeing how SD price for HE, with the price of new Focus, I guess you can only get the 1.6 litre Duratec, with the price of 408 2.0 NA engine. The 1.6L Focus 2012 only offer 125 PS and 159 Nm, compare to 408 2.0L engine 146 PS and 200 Nm. I guess only all the tech and safety will only be offer on the Focus 2012 2.0L version. You won't regret getting the 408 2.0 NA model

The Focus 2012 2.0 litre Duratec engine was quoted at 170 PS and 200 Nm of torque, partnered to a six-speed, dual dry-clutch PowerShift transmission, replete with paddle shifters. If the power comes in at the lower end torque, the pick-up should be pretty decent and if it not limited by ECU, the power and performance should be as good as the 408T. 408 Curb Weight: 1402.00 kg vs Ford Focus Curb Weight (est.): 1315.00 kg (based on survey from Internet)

Unfortunately, without the EcoBoost engine, the FC will not match the HE. Leg room on the back will also not be able to match HE and 408. FF 2012 wheelbase is quoted at 2,650mm only.

The only saving grace is the HB looks very sleek and sporty and the tech. If the tech is not included and has even lesser safety features than the 408T, I guess it will not be very attractive. Price wise, pray it will not go crazy. I have a suspicious feeling it will price same or more than the new Civic 2012 2.0L pricing

More info on car and launching date on:

1. https://www.facebook.com/fordfocusmy
2. http://www.ford.co.th/en/cars/new-focus#

Is the dashboard the same in non turbo and turbo?