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post Sep 29 2012, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(Gill71 @ Sep 29 2012, 09:40 AM)
the whizzing or hissing sound on the steering was also present when i tested the 2.0 and T. did ask the SA about that and he said its normal and if its faulty it would NOT be used as a test car. not sure  if its  normal feature. whats the best fix for the rattling sound. i also notice sound from left size when hitting uneven or wornout roads.
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I did not hear these sounds on the car I tested. Mine is now 3 months and don't have any of the hissing sound. SAs will always cookup a story! It is definitely a defect,insist on getting it fixed. I reported the slight rattle on the left rear door on the 1st inspection. It seems to have reduced, but still there very faintly and only at high speeds.


Added on September 29, 2012, 11:30 am
QUOTE(jfcheong @ Sep 29 2012, 09:50 AM)
Brothers and sister, these are the acc with the spare wheel. Mine seems like missing somethgs. Not complete set?
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That is the complete set,exactly what i've got! What do you think is missing?

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post Sep 29 2012, 12:48 PM

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The yellow plastic item is an adaptor. All the wheel nuts have a cap. You have to remove this cap before undoing the wheel nut. Insert this yellow adaptor on to the wheel nut and pull,the cap comes out.

If you do not remove the nut cap and try to undo the wheel nut,the wheel nut will be damaged. If the wheel nuts are damaged,then you need workshop remedy!
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post Sep 29 2012, 07:11 PM

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QUOTE(jfcheong @ Sep 29 2012, 12:57 PM)
Oh~~ Thanks for explaining bro, never know that there is a chrome wheel nut cover on it.
Is our 408 come with security wheel nut/ bolt?
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408 does not come with security wheel nut. Once you remove the caps,use the brace to remove the nuts.


Added on September 29, 2012, 7:24 pm
QUOTE(Bearheart @ Sep 29 2012, 04:51 PM)
Thanks for the info!
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Most welcome bro!

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post Sep 30 2012, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(pakwong @ Sep 30 2012, 12:08 AM)
pug 408t owner, please advice.

I just got my lion, mileage 650+, but the radiator water seem drop to the low level bout 8 days time.

Do you all need to fill up the radiator water frequently?

Thanks..
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Radiator coolant drop in 8 days could only mean a leak. However since you just got your car,chances are the coolant was not filled to proper level. As bro jfcheong said, best to have it investigated,see the SC right away.


Added on September 30, 2012, 10:17 am
QUOTE(yhchai @ Sep 10 2012, 05:37 PM)
Just got an update from SC. Faulty manifold sensor. They need to order the parts which mean my lion will be hospitalized for few more days.
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Hi bro,is your car fixed. Can you brief us what was done? How is it running?

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post Oct 1 2012, 04:00 PM

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They replaced the ElectroValve
So far running ok and loving it except for the occasional irritating rattling sound from the left. Once thing for certain, owning Peugeot makes me a better 'mechanic' and more observant everyday. Drove Nissan Sentra for 5 years and I didn't even know where is the latch to open the car bonnet whistling.gif
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Glad to note your car is fixed and running well. This adds to the confidence of our choice in Peugeot and value to 5 year warranty provided by Peugeot.
Don't mind joining the owners list. Bro Sky siow and pakwong can also list here.tq


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post Oct 4 2012, 07:47 PM

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Early Prince engine ( EP6-DT*) suffered from what's called 'super knock' problem. Main culprit was carbon buildup in cylinder/piston head area. Among many,one suggested solution was RON 97. Owners of these engines have reported better performance on RON97. It does not mean all versions of Prince will run better on RON97! RON97 will only provide better performance if the engine is tuned for that octane level.

Now for some facts, no guesses or feel good factors:
Various mods were carried on the Prince in 408, addressing reliability issues. This EP6CDTM is infact developed to run on RON91. There is no advantage in using RON 97 on this engine! It runs perfectly on RON95
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post Oct 7 2012, 09:06 AM

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QUOTE(Bearheart @ Oct 6 2012, 09:53 PM)
I just noticed the rear of my 408 by night... I love the way the rear lights make parallel diagonals! 

Ashamed to say that I didn't actually notice how the rear lights looked till now :-P
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Many have commented on the bare rear. Like i said before, the lion stands out. But at night,due these lights,the rear looks very elegant,unlike most cars on the road! thumbup.gif


Added on October 7, 2012, 9:46 am
QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Oct 7 2012, 06:54 AM)
All NA owners on the list -have you booked your 1st service already, mind sharing the experience?

My French Guy neigbour owned a 308 and told me Peugeot car is great, service so-so, but kept on saying peugeot's a good car. He told me glenmarie Blue box is the worstn service, the rest is ok. he now gets service done in PJ.

Being a week old NA owner...my number one complaint is the rough gear shift when you are slow...wonder if this common...seemed to be the same conclusion every one has. And no sync with my iphone but that's OK as I still observed the driving etiquete of "no phone-talk while driving"... cool2.gif
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Nothing special at 1st inspection. It's a general look over with fluid topup if necessary. Only takes a few minutes,but you'll probably wait at the SC an hour plus. At Glenmarie, make your booking at least 3-4weeks before it's due.

I'm not surprised about your neighbours comment on service at Glenmarie. Glenmarie SC has moved to a new and bigger premises. It is still not big enough as the number of Pugs has grown. It is now Peugeot Blue Box and incorporates several changes to improve service and customer support. There are improvements but perhaps not as fast as one would like!

A number of our bros have commented on the slightly jerky gears at low speeds of the AT8 tranny. I understand it is nothing serious and is a smooth tranny. However you should mention this at your 1st inspection. As for the non Bluetooth connection to iPhone, it's a software problem. Present Bluetooth software in the car does not support some versions of the IPhone.

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post Oct 7 2012, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(Bearheart @ Oct 7 2012, 01:28 PM)
Leap of faith is true for me too. I don't anybody here decides to bring home a Lion the way that one might decide on a Toy-cat or Hon-dog. Heh.
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Hehehe......good one bro. rclxms.gif


Added on October 7, 2012, 6:13 pm
QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Oct 7 2012, 12:43 PM)
Bought my Lion from 4S @Jln Chan sow Lin and most likely will send it back there for service, where did you send yours?


Added on October 7, 2012, 12:52 pm
Good stuff ! Thanks! Great to know here exist a brotherhood of lion tamers. Getting Lion is a very bold step for me akin to taking the leap of faith. This forum has been part of the reason I make that choice!
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You have made a good choice. There is pretty good brotherhood here willing to share information and experience. Once in a way you'll get a creep who does not own this car,but will insist he knows more than us about this car! Just ignore him. Welcome bro and happy Pugging!

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post Oct 8 2012, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Oct 7 2012, 11:42 PM)
Getting in an argument with woman is like BEING ARRESTED because anything you say can and will be used AGAINST YOU! hehehe : S.O.S.  icon_question.gif  whistling.gif
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And she has even given a guy the GTFO.......superb.... hehehe! But this fellow so dum la,still poking his nose in our backsides!


Added on October 8, 2012, 9:44 am
QUOTE(Bearheart @ Oct 7 2012, 09:29 PM)
I'm enjoying this forum!

Btw guys, can a start/stop button be fixed on our Lion? Wanna make it faster to start the car at night, ;-).
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Possible,you can also add brake pedal auto lock. As soon as you hit the brakes the doors lock automatically. The only problem here is it will affect the 5 year warranty.

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post Oct 8 2012, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(jfcheong @ Oct 8 2012, 11:15 AM)
Regarding the warranty, still rmb the plug and play OEM I mentioned before? I checked with the front desk of SC last weekend. They can't gave a confirm ans whether it void the warranty.
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Oh like that, have to forget it loh!


Added on October 8, 2012, 5:31 pm
QUOTE(Bearheart @ Oct 8 2012, 12:04 PM)
Thanks, where and what brand of start stop button is that?

At the moment, the doors do lock automatically after starting to drive off. That's adequate for me already.
Thanks for the feedback.
I don't know the brand, car accessory shops have it.

Your doors lock automatically aah! That means I have a defect on mine,my doors don't lock automatically!

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post Oct 9 2012, 10:11 AM

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QUOTE(Termibait @ Oct 9 2012, 07:27 AM)
Read about Kwan thai's predicament. His 508 won't start engine (start/stop engine press type). Peugeot sent a technician and after 10 hours of repairing, the car was not spared to be towed away to sc. Now it has been sitting there for a mont or so I think with peugeot giving no assurance when it will be returned to owner in working condition.
Kwan made numerous calls and postings on Peugeot fb only to be deleted and banned by peugeot fb administrator. Mind you, his car was less then 1 week old when it broke down. He was asking for a brand new 508 as a replacement as the sc could not make it works.
Any lawyer here who knows that if a car less than 30 days old is not moving and can't be repaired given stipulated time allows car owner to demand for a new car for replacement? Kwan
This will be a very interesting case for all Pug owners, to see how Peugeot handles the situation. There in lies the value of the 5 year warranty.

There is no provision in the S & P for a replacement unit upon return within a specific period of time. The manufacturer is obliged by warranty to repair/replace defective parts as the case may be. The owner however may claim compensation for the period of loss usage.

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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Oct 9 2012, 10:42 AM)
Let's be fair though, 3 weeks and no response or solution is still really quite bad. At the very least, if his SA offered him a courtesy car, it would have at least generated less ill will. I really pity the owner, no one wants to get a lemon and it's quite unfortunate he's been hit with one.
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Yes this is in bad taste. Not only getting a lemon but given the shoddy treatment too! Kwan should insist for the courtesy car or rent a car and pass the bill to Naza.
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QUOTE(Termibait @ Oct 9 2012, 11:29 PM)
Now I have phobia of thinking will my car breakdown halfway.....aiyoooo...buying this car should make me worry less and happy more...
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Any car that beaks down in the middle of no where, will be a problem to owner. The advantage with Peugeot is the immediate tow service. This is a big peace of mind for me! So with this car, more happy la bro! biggrin.gif


Added on October 10, 2012, 10:22 am
QUOTE(jfcheong @ Oct 10 2012, 08:56 AM)
No one want a lemon. Just hope that we don't really need that warranty claim. The extension of 5 years warranty just a bonus a peace of mind. We still get problems while something happen even with the warranty.
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The value in the warranty is if the problems can be fixed. Unfortunately NASA sucks here! Hopefully with Peugeot Blue Box involvement this reputation changes!

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post Oct 11 2012, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Oct 10 2012, 10:25 AM)
Sure and if they tell you it will take about 3 hours to arrive as compared to a towing service that you know who can do it in 1 hour, would you still want to use Peugeot's towing service? As evidenced by the FB 508 owner, I think it's a good idea and good practice to have a handy backup number just in case your big peace of mind decides to act up that day.
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Lets be factual. I do not know the details of what happened with Kwan (508 owner) However I do know a Peugeot owner who called for assistance at NS hwy, got his car towed in 20 mins of his call. This incident is quoted at Autoworld forum, not something fabricated!
Peugeot has out sourced this facility. Any private contractor will come as soon as he can cos it's money for him!
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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Oct 11 2012, 11:02 AM)
Right, but does it hurt to have a backup number as well? It's not a big deal to have an extra roadside assistance number (eg. AAA) on hand to call just in case your primary helpline number goes haywire or something. No need to get so defensive.
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Certainly no harm in a backup number. Response will depend on many factors.
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Hi bro rnans. Tks for informing me of our non adaptive gearbox behaviour. Glad to hear your car is free of the small QC problems most of face. The left pull and little rear rattle are still there on my car. Will report again on my next service.

Yes I think nearly all of us face this gearbox behaviour. To be frank I hardly notice the RPM during each change cos the gears are very smooth. It was only after reading about this that I decided to check and found our so called adaptive gearbox is actually non adaptive.

Had reported it on the 1st inspection. You are right it only fell into deaf ears. This was at Geoauto in PJ. The guy at the front desk did not even understand the word adaptive gearbox. I suppose you can't blame him,he's only front desk clerk. An older Indian gentleman came along to his help,at least he understood technical language. The claimed fix is not a fix. My gears still behave in the same manner. IMO it needs a TCU update. But when you have people who don't understand the complaint,maybe it would be better to leave it as it is. The gears are so very smooth,I fear they'll screw it, then I endup in a worst situation. So this is a dilemma for me if I want address it or just live with it! It is not a problem,but a loss in effeciency!

Try Balakong, it being the nerve Center, chances of a fix is probable.If you do get it fixed,let us know. I'm sure all bros with 408t will be keen! Take care and good luck bro.

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post Oct 15 2012, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(Bearheart @ Oct 15 2012, 11:59 AM)


What's TCU?

Yup, keen!
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TCU is transmission computer unit. This is programmed to control the manner in which the gear change based on driving style.
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QUOTE(koniglee @ Oct 15 2012, 05:41 PM)
I'm driving a peugeot 3008 and fiesta with dual clutch transmission. Even the ford dual clutch jerks like hell when you drive in the city. Only when you are really gunning on it then it is smooth. Else most of the time, the pug is definitely smoother than the ford dual clutch.
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It's a well known fact WV's DSG is jerky at slow speeds. 6spd Aisin on the Pug is definitely smoother than the Fords dual clutch tranny at City driving!
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QUOTE(koniglee @ Oct 16 2012, 08:21 AM)
No idea on VW DSG but for city driving, the dual clutch in ford is a different animal compared to conventional auto. The way you control the throttle need to change a little to compensate for that jerkiness. Wifey had a hard time changing her driving style to suit the Ford.
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Tks for your input bro. Always good to hear from owners who are factual based on real experience!

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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Oct 16 2012, 11:06 AM)
Here's some factual experience for you

1. As a co-owner of the new FB Civic 9th gen, the 5 speeder is by far the smoothest I've driven so far. It doesn't jerk or drag and the car never feels slow despite it being having only an NA engine. Acceleration is nicely linear and robust, this is a very nice car to drive if you don't mind the loud road and wind noise that kicks in once you hit 120km/hr and beyond.

2. Every once in awhile, I'll drive my relative's Audi Q5. The 7 speed S-tronic (DSG) is silky smooth when I drove it. But I've been told during the 1st few months of ownership, the car also jerky at low speeds. However, these days the car has much less incidence of jerkiness at low speeds because it has since adopted to the driving style of the owner. He has never complained the car feeling draggy at low speeds.

3. My own Passat - This car is noticeably more draggy and jerky at low speeds, particularly on 2nd gear when it appears more frequently during the 1st 2 months. I've owned my car for nearly 4 months now and the incidence has reduced although it is still appears every now and then especially in start stop traffic. Like the Q5, I believe the onboard computer is learning and adjusting to the owner style of driving and likely such incidence will reduce as time goes by.

4. The family Polo Tsi which my parents drive (owned for slightly over 2 years) - This car too comes with a 7 speed DSG like the Passat but unlike the Passat, I have not noticed any drag or jerk at low speeds whatsoever. And I drive this car when I just want to go out for a quick errand especially in places where there are lots of cars and parking can become a problem. The only thing I hate about this car is how it will roll back/forward on an incline because there isn't a hill assist/hold mode.

5. My old Corolla Altis 2008 current gen pre-facelift - Like the FB Civic, the gearbox on this car is fairly smooth but since it is only a 4 speeder, accelerating from the 40km/hr mark is a little slow. It's a competent car but when you need speed, the rev counter will jump to 4k and up which isn't that nice since the engine roar is louder at high revs.

Btw, the jerky and drag on the DSG is something you will notice at low speeds. In my experience, it most appears during start stop traffic but surely not something that is difficult to adjust or ruin the whole driving experience. The jerk only happens for a second or so while the drag is something that can go on until you can accelerate faster. There are no loud engine noises or vibrations just in case anyone is wondering.

The FB Civic gear change is definitely the smoothest overall but I'd still prefer my 7 speed DSG anytime because nothing beats the feeling turbo torque and the quick shifts of the DSG to bring in that power.
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Tq ,
You have cleared doubts on issues pertaining to DSG gearbox and koniglee on Fords dual clutch, once and for all! I appreciate this!

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