I don't think this is true. I fully researched the THP models before buying mine. Apart from Engine sensors, most others would be the same on both models. The NA engine is a further refinement of the EW10A on the 407. I have not come across any problems with sensors here too. At the worst case scenario, we have 5 year warranty. I wouldn't blink eyelid over this!

Next you'll hear,even from owners of other Peugeot models,408s are manufactured in China and not good. That statement is rubbish cos essential parts are manufactured to Peugeot standards. There is a lot of cost efficiency on non essential parts. That does not mean they are not good or will easily fail. That's the major factor in this car being affordable and value for money! This is a hidden jealousy with older model owners. How could we guys get such a high tech car (even the NA) at this price,when they had to pay much higher for lower tech!

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Added on September 11, 2012, 9:02 amYou have made a very wise choice. In my opinion, the new Civic is overpriced,underpowered,overrated car. There's a lot I can say,but will stop here as it serves no purpose!

The non connectivity of your iPhone is a small problem but not sure if it can be easily fixed. 408s Bluetooh does not support version 5.1.1. You've got to get a Bluetooth update from SC. The question is, do they have an updated! In this case I would suggest contacting Balakong SC. The rest are just going to fart around. Call Glendmarie and check them out first!

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Added on September 11, 2012, 9:14 amGlad to hear the problem is diagnosed. That is a very small problem. The sensors are probably made by 3 party vendors. That batch will be identified and eliminated. Do keep us updated!

This post has been edited by SKYjack: Sep 11 2012, 09:43 AM

9.7l/100km for hwy & city drive is right if you are sprited driver. After the 1st service you'll probably drop to just above 9. To get anything below 9, you'll have to go easy on the pedal. To get 8.6,must drive uncle style lah. The power from this engine being so addictive,I doubt any of us will achieve this! How to drive this car uncle style???

The manul recommends N during any waiting period. The damage was on older designed gearbox. Continuous energise/deenergise of the solenoid valve causes failure. Electronic components don't like power fluctuations. This has been rectified. I'm really happy with this silky smooth Aisin 6spd tranny,which is used by Porsche too! Most of the time I don't even realise the gearchange,even at slow speeds or traffic jams!

This post has been edited by SKYjack: Sep 13 2012, 10:45 AM

Hi jess. What did you do with the original rims? Are your present rims lighter or heavier than the originals?
I guess you'd be close to 5k km by now. Since you and hubby are spirited drivers,any negative observation on the engine.

Both gearboxes are completely different. Although AL4 & AT8 are both 4 speed trannys,AT8 has better ratios. Many AL4 failures previously,new selnoid valve made by Warner Borg has corrected the situation. The AT8 on the 408NA may be more reliable.

Well done and good to hear from the NAs!

What is the recommended ATF change period for 6spd Aisins. I'll be doing a little less than 20K km/year.

It's good you found the car stable at that speed. However due to our uneven roads did you find the car bouncy?

Lucky guy la,your hubby. Today to Seremban I hit 150kmh,my wife started her sendiwara!

This post has been edited by SKYjack: Sep 18 2012, 06:31 PM

I think due to NA's soft suspension,uneven roads are not such an issue. The turbo with it's sports tuned suspension gets bouncy above 150kmh.I took mine to 200kmh just for 5 sec,then back to 150 kmh at Lekas hwy once.

Initially I was quite concerned about this,but soon when the electronic speed traps come into action,have to slow down to 110kmh anyway. As this system will be privatised,sure to kena la if you speed! So now trying to get used to uncle style driving....hehehe!

This post has been edited by SKYjack: Sep 18 2012, 08:34 PM

Hehehe.......

Yes and these speeds are limited by the ECU. Our bro has already done 190kmh on the NA. I've done 200kmh,could have gone higher,had to slow down as it was quite bouncy due to bad roads. No problem to hit listed speeds,if conditions were right! To achieve higher speeds you need to remap the ECU and add on performance enhancement. Turbo engines can be taken to an amazing level of performance. Our Prince 1.6turbo is used by the Mini Cooper and the Peugeot RCZ, achieving 200hp and speeds up to 237kmh. Higher than this is also possible with various performance enhancement kits!

Note: warranty void with any performance enhancement.

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Added on September 19, 2012, 5:12 pmOh yes,very soon electronic speed traps at most hwys,no escape la bro! Anyway,fast cornering, more exciting! For this the sports tuned suspension is premium stuff la!

This post has been edited by SKYjack: Sep 19 2012, 05:29 PM

I think it's price factor.People are still wary over THPs bad reputation. Hopefully that's all in the past.Had I known about the 508 turbo deisel,I would have waited!

I believe there's about 30 of here,NA & THP. Everyone is pretty good with sharing info! How many 508s?

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Added on September 19, 2012, 10:35 pmPoison,poison........hehehe!

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Added on September 19, 2012, 10:39 pmBro, what is the time period from time you drove to getting the summon!

This post has been edited by SKYjack: Sep 19 2012, 10:39 PM

Any indication at the time you were speeding,that you have been speed trapped! Just trying to recollect my events......hehehe!

This post has been edited by SKYjack: Sep 20 2012, 09:45 AM

I gained confidence on the THP after reading the last 80pages on 508 at Autoworld. Any issues with the THP you can enlighten us?

Btw,I know a storm is brewing over lack of Malaysian maps on 508 GPS,and NASA refusing to bring the maps. Did you realise before or after buying the car.

This post has been edited by SKYjack: Sep 20 2012, 09:43 AM

You're the speed trap sifu la.....hehehe! When you are speed trapped,do you know it instantly,or onlly when the love letter arrives?

Koreans are closing the gaps on Conti's fast. I was very impressed by the K5. If not for the harsh engine on acceleration, K5 would be parked in my drive way. A few years from now, they'll be the ones to watch! Their cars are proving to be very reliable too. It's very likely my next ride will a Korean!

Hehehe....tks bro!

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Added on September 21, 2012, 1:43 pmIt's not the sound. Prince 1.6 turbo is much more refined,smooth and powerful. Torque is simply addictive! 408t handling is another level. Elector- hyd steering is much more precise,again at another level. 6spd tranny is silky smooth! Upon hard acceleration,power delivery is effortless,smooth and progressive, it does not struggle with an uncomfortable roar like the Theta 11. For these reasons!

This post has been edited by SKYjack: Sep 21 2012, 01:58 PM

That's why I said my next ride may be Korean! They are certainly the dark horse to watch!

Nah.....I've already made my choice and am very happy with it. It took me 5 months,testing and evaluating different models,both D & C segment. I had a look at the FF in OZ. In a way am glad the TDCI is discontinued in Malaysia. It would have been a dilemma  for me to choose between the FF TDCI and 408t. Finally decided on the 408t. 

Another point is service and product support. Peugeot is making tremendous improvements in this aspect. As product confidence grows,so will the product. This will lead to more independent specialist into the business. In the end a better deal for owners to get proper maintenance.

I'm so very satisfied with my Pug,it's in for the long run, I mean a very log run! For the money it is the best deal,and brings a lot to the table. At the moment,it is years ahead in technology with competitors. No doubt there will be higher tech cars in the years to come,but at what price! Right now on sedans, what is there to match the 408t in price vs spec?

This post has been edited by SKYjack: Sep 22 2012, 10:45 AM

No match,harsh & slow engine! No match in handling!No match in precise steering with excellent feedback!

This post has been edited by SKYjack: Sep 22 2012, 11:15 AM