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 Comparing Jetta, Civic & Altis, Prefering Jetta

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kadajawi
post Oct 12 2012, 07:22 PM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Oct 12 2012, 03:32 PM)
I prefer Korean girls to German "Helga"....
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lol. You don't know how hot and kinky German girls can be brows.gif laugh.gif Korean girls just seem to be cute. tongue.gif
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post Oct 12 2012, 07:29 PM

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So what has TS decided?
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post Oct 13 2012, 11:47 AM

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please do some research on the VW 1.4TSI engine before you decide. In some countries, this engine has some severe overheating issues. Old jetta is definitely a concern.


Added on October 13, 2012, 11:48 am
QUOTE(kadajawi @ Oct 12 2012, 10:22 PM)
lol. You don't know how hot and kinky German girls can be  brows.gif  laugh.gif Korean girls just seem to be cute. tongue.gif
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Agree, cute and will look into the mirror or iPhone camera all day long.

This post has been edited by pcychen72: Oct 13 2012, 11:48 AM
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post Oct 13 2012, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(jasonhee8986 @ Aug 15 2012, 10:53 AM)
I am the VW Jetta owner.

Jetta is the right choice, before i bought it , i have booked a toyota prius hybrid, after my friend recommented to me, i change the order.

Performance : Really good, power is standby in anytime and backup you.
Gearbox : you can't feel the gear have turn from N to D1 or S1 (There have auto mode and sport mode, and +/- mode too), really smooth.
Soundproof : I can't hear any sound of wind blow when i am driving 200km/h
Feeling : You never try any japanese car after u drive this Germany car, because they give u different feel.
Warranty : 5 years with no limit mileage

Don't go to buy the korean car because i just sold my Sangyong Rexton, too bad.

I have booking the leather seat, next week will change it in RM2,200/-.
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hi, can tell us abt the Rexton?
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post Oct 13 2012, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(blurry d @ Oct 12 2012, 03:05 PM)
The new DSG does not have the jerking issue no more.. it has improved and its a better drive. All you need to do is go back to the SC and ask them to update the software. All done.

Korean cars are like Korean girls, pretty but some of them are fakes. German cars are like the girl next door, not very pretty but cute enough to give you a boner.

Anyways it is up to you on what you want to have. Pretty girls or girl next door... i am more of a girl next door person so I own a Jetta.
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Which is the new DSG? care to enlighten...

Software update is done, and after that all I notice is a slight delay in gearbox response and jerkiness is still there.. is just the nature of the DSG
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post Oct 15 2012, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(pcychen72 @ Oct 13 2012, 11:47 AM)
please do some research on the VW 1.4TSI engine before you decide. In some countries, this engine has some severe overheating issues. Old jetta is definitely a concern.


Added on October 13, 2012, 11:48 am
Agree, cute and will look into the mirror or iPhone camera all day long.
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yeap, owning a car is same like owning a house. Reliability and total cost of ownership is important. Try to find out the cost of the VW battery.... as compare to T&H.

Turbocharge give u power, performance but lack of reliability and high FC. Especially now AES, no point for turbocharge. Give you more summon = lost of $.

Rather spend more time with family to have a reliable car than a car always go to service center with bad SC service and need to wait the parts for weeks or months......no peace of mind and fast = more summon and not safe.


The new civic now comes in 5 years unlimited warranty with 10,000 interval service with ECO mode. HID light and 17" rim, 4 airbag. Spec wise not too bad some more the styling very mature and sporty also. Modern design and can last very long. Not like conti when see more , will get bored. No offence ya, purely own opinion and sharing only.

Just sharing.
Choice is in your hand.

This post has been edited by pjkl: Oct 15 2012, 10:33 PM
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post Oct 17 2012, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(pjkl @ Oct 15 2012, 10:29 PM)


Turbocharge give u power, performance but lack of reliability and high FC. Especially now AES, no point for turbocharge. Give you more summon = lost of $.


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bro.. i think you are still living in dinosaur age...

due to European and US mile stone to increase mile per gallon and reducing CO2 emission, auto makers are down sizing their engine and putting in force induction (turbo) for fuel efficiency...
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post Oct 18 2012, 09:19 AM

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i have just replaced my polo tsi (2011) with the new civic. some feedback from me.

The polo is a more solid car then the civic..when it rains you will not feel like you are in a milo tin.
the polo's engine is so sweet..the tsi is just so fun to drive.
the DSG is fast and efficient. (i could get 520km for rm70)
reliability on the polo..soso. had issues with mechatronic, dashbord sound and wiper/signal wiring (all solved)
VW service centre is very good..efficient and friendly..all my issues were solved immediately and professionally.

so why did i change?...i needed a bigger car..

This post has been edited by Glau: Oct 18 2012, 09:20 AM
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post Oct 18 2012, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(twincharger07 @ Oct 17 2012, 11:42 PM)
bro.. i think you are still living in dinosaur age...

due to European and US mile stone to increase mile per gallon and reducing CO2 emission,  auto makers are down sizing their engine and putting in force induction (turbo) for fuel efficiency...
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hahah dinosaur age...

if want to save fuel, then can use hybrid and more environmental friendly.
each car has pro and con. Just that individual choice. But when you see on the road beside local car, more people choose T&H, surely that is reason. If 1 people choose wrong, cannot be 10000 people choose wrong.

No offence ya, just sharing....

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post Oct 18 2012, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(pjkl @ Oct 18 2012, 11:03 AM)
hahah dinosaur age...

if want to save fuel, then can use hybrid and more environmental friendly.
each car has pro and con. Just that individual choice. But when you see on the road beside local car, more people choose T&H, surely that is reason. If 1 people choose wrong, cannot be 10000 people choose wrong.

No offence ya, just sharing....
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Doesn't change the fact that Europeans buy hybrids much lesser than they buy diesels instead. Also, in China, VW holds a much larger share of the automotive market there compared to Toyota, Honda and Nissan while the market leader is held by GM (American).

So if we base what is popular in Asia, that means those brands are the better cars to get?
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post Oct 18 2012, 11:45 AM

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to understand why ppl choosing diesel in Europe.. u have to understand their tax structure btwn Diesel car and Petrol car sir...
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post Oct 18 2012, 12:48 PM

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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Oct 18 2012, 11:22 AM)
Doesn't change the fact that Europeans buy hybrids much lesser than they buy diesels instead. Also, in China, VW holds a much larger share of the automotive market there compared to Toyota, Honda and Nissan while the market leader is held by GM (American).

So if we base what is popular in Asia, that means those brands are the better cars to get?
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hehe, that is in China, we are here in Malaysia, cannot compare oh ! Whatever successful in overseas does not mean applicable to our context. No point how good at outside but when come to here, not. What is the point pay so high price to get trouble in case....

Just dunno lah... many ppl sharing that got many problems, scary. For me rather choose those spare parts easily can find and get rather than to wait from overseas or Europe for weeks.... Again, rather spend time with family than in SC.

Reputation, reliability and the whole eco system, need time to build that is what T&H did here. That's sure got a reason why people choose T&H, local car here.

No offense ya. Sharing...

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post Oct 18 2012, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(Glau @ Oct 18 2012, 09:19 AM)
i have just replaced my polo tsi (2011) with the new civic. some feedback from me.

The polo is a more solid car then the civic..when it rains you will not feel like you are in a milo tin.
the polo's engine is so sweet..the tsi is just so fun to drive.
the DSG is fast and efficient. (i could get 520km for rm70)
reliability on the polo..soso. had issues with mechatronic, dashbord sound and wiper/signal wiring (all solved)
VW service centre is very good..efficient and friendly..all my issues were solved immediately and professionally.

so why did i change?...i needed a bigger car..
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true... my polo already 1 year 2months. Being switching cars often. But each time i drive the polo, it really gives me a whole new feel of driving.

Power needed, recently i was on par with a speeding Accord coming from behind. Problem is the turbo lag... sometimes its really bad but u must know how to control the rpm then it should be fine.

Each time i send for service, they will do product updates. Recently done turbo heating update. Mechatronic software update....
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post Oct 18 2012, 04:25 PM

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Becareful with the polo. I have a polo tsi too. The gearbox is very very sensitive. Yes its a joy to drive but this car needs constant software updates . And yes i did have that juddering on my gearbox before i did the update.

Its a great car, but its kinda small.

German cars are good to drive but if u like to mod ur cars, then the choices are very limited and mostly damn expensive.

Like recently wanted to chg my polo wiper to piaa silicon ones. Guess what, costs around rm350 for the blardy wiper! Wanna change rim oso headache cuz polo using some special size rim size which alot of shop dont have stock.

So in the long run, japs are much more easier to maintain and parts are plenty.

This post has been edited by kevin23: Oct 18 2012, 04:33 PM
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post Oct 18 2012, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Oct 18 2012, 04:25 PM)
Becareful with the polo. I have a polo tsi too. The gearbox is very very sensitive. Yes its a joy to drive but this car needs constant software updates . And yes i did have that juddering on my gearbox before i did the update.

Its a great car, but its kinda small.

German cars are good to drive but if u like to mod ur cars, then the choices are very limited and mostly damn expensive.

Like recently wanted to chg my polo wiper to piaa silicon ones. Guess what, costs around rm350 for the blardy wiper! Wanna change rim oso headache cuz polo using some special size rim size which alot of shop dont have stock.

So in the long run, japs are much more easier to maintain and parts are plenty.
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by far i know alot of owners do not have problem with the DSG or any issue with gearbox.. Some quite teruk which gear cannot even change.

Waiting for my new german toy biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(mugenz @ Oct 18 2012, 04:47 PM)
by far i know alot of owners do not have problem with the DSG or any issue with gearbox.. Some quite teruk which gear cannot even change.

Waiting for my new german toy biggrin.gif
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Thr are lotsa problems especially polo tsi 1.2 and golf 1.4 tsi. Its basically juddering of the gearbox. Thegolf gti doesnt hv this problem. I have a golf gti too. No juddering so far.

But atthe end of the day, Put aside those gearbox problems, VW are blardy good cars!

This post has been edited by kevin23: Oct 18 2012, 04:59 PM
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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Oct 18 2012, 04:25 PM)
Becareful with the polo. I have a polo tsi too. The gearbox is very very sensitive. Yes its a joy to drive but this car needs constant software updates . And yes i did have that juddering on my gearbox before i did the update.

Its a great car, but its kinda small.

German cars are good to drive but if u like to mod ur cars, then the choices are very limited and mostly damn expensive.

Like recently wanted to chg my polo wiper to piaa silicon ones. Guess what, costs around rm350 for the blardy wiper! Wanna change rim oso headache cuz polo using some special size rim size which alot of shop dont have stock.

So in the long run, japs are much more easier to maintain and parts are plenty.
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yup. that is why reliability is playing important parts beside the "joy" to drive. You will enjoy driving but on the other hand give you headache to deal with lack of SC and waiting period for parts to arrive to solve the problem. Imagine no car to use, difficult and troublesome to go to work, cannot meet client, lost customer, lost $ to repair, expensive spare parts etc...
Owning a car is medium term and need to take into consideration a lot of factors not just joy to drive only. That is just 1 part of the factor. Not pin point anyone or what, just sharing... the facts
Check and make the informed decision.

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QUOTE(pjkl @ Oct 18 2012, 05:38 PM)
yup. that is why reliability is playing important parts beside the  "joy" to drive. You will enjoy driving but on the other hand give you headache to deal with lack of SC and waiting period for parts to arrive to solve the problem. Imagine no car to use, difficult and troublesome to go to work, cannot meet client, lost customer, lost $ to repair, expensive spare parts etc...
Owning a car is medium term and need to take into consideration a lot of factors not just joy to drive only. That is just 1 part of the factor. Not pin point anyone or what, just sharing... the facts
Check and make the informed decision.
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Most of them does provide replacement car to compensate. For Vw if u sent for warranty, can choose to take cab they will pay for it. Well t&c does apply, but they do provide this smile.gif
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QUOTE(pjkl @ Oct 18 2012, 11:03 AM)
hahah dinosaur age...

if want to save fuel, then can use hybrid and more environmental friendly.
each car has pro and con. Just that individual choice. But when you see on the road beside local car, more people choose T&H, surely that is reason. If 1 people choose wrong, cannot be 10000 people choose wrong.

No offence ya, just sharing....
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i m not emphasizing on which has better fuel efficiency, i m just against your remark that turbocharged engine is much more fuel consuming..
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Jetta la. Ppl consider Jetta a luxury car. U will be seen as a more higher class compared to if u drive civic, altis or k5.

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