Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

11 Pages < 1 2 3 4 > » Bottom

Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+

 Comparing Jetta, Civic & Altis, Prefering Jetta

views
     
ericmaxman
post May 8 2012, 08:58 AM

-
*******
Senior Member
7,951 posts

Joined: Sep 2005
QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ May 8 2012, 08:56 AM)
I did and ive responded. U claimed the 1.4 is small which is a major oversight on your part. The bits about specs is an add on.
*
you still dont get what i'm implying.
raclette
post May 8 2012, 09:06 AM

Casual
***
Junior Member
428 posts

Joined: Aug 2009
QUOTE(ericmaxman @ May 8 2012, 08:20 AM)
1.4cc is very small..considering the kancil is 660cc shocking.gif
*
It must be the twin fan.
812799
post May 8 2012, 09:07 AM

Enthusiast
*****
Senior Member
837 posts

Joined: Aug 2007


QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ May 8 2012, 08:43 AM)
Ure obviously from the older generation of ppl who associate engine capacity with power. The Jetta's 1.4TSI is a twin turbo engine with 158Hp and 240Nm torque. It beats most of the 2 liter D segment Japs e.g Camry, Accord and Teana in terms of power. Not to mention its more advanced 7 speed DSG gearbox. But all that comes with a price and at approx RM160K (OTR), it isnt cheap.

My choice would still be the Kia Optima K5 at only RM143,888 (OTR). It is slighty more powerful than comparable Jap models with 163Hp & 198Nm torque but with excellent specs, design and interior space.
*
twin turbo =/= twin charged ... get it right buddy
raclette
post May 8 2012, 09:07 AM

Casual
***
Junior Member
428 posts

Joined: Aug 2009
QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ May 8 2012, 08:56 AM)
I did and ive responded. U claimed the 1.4 is small which is a major oversight on your part. The bits about specs is an add on.
*
1.4, 1400, 660.
selinix
post May 8 2012, 10:38 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
7,343 posts

Joined: May 2005

QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ May 8 2012, 08:43 AM)
Ure obviously from the older generation of ppl who associate engine capacity with power. The Jetta's 1.4TSI is a twin turbo engine with 158Hp and 240Nm torque. It beats most of the 2 liter D segment Japs e.g Camry, Accord and Teana in terms of power. Not to mention its more advanced 7 speed DSG gearbox. But all that comes with a price and at approx RM160K (OTR), it isnt cheap.

My choice would still be the Kia Optima K5 at only RM143,888 (OTR). It is slighty more powerful than comparable Jap models with 163Hp & 198Nm torque but with excellent specs, design and interior space.
*
Jetta 1.4 is a twincharged engine.. supercharged + turbocharged .. not twin turbo smile.gif
junbecks
post May 8 2012, 10:46 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
140 posts

Joined: Dec 2005


aiyoh! Ericmaxman refering to 1.4 CC where it should be 1.4 Liter. Right?

Anywho, fuel consumption aside, anyone here experience the difference between small displacement vs big in terms of long distance driving?

yes the 1.4 L has nice power and torque but how would it feel driving for 2 hours or so compared to the 2.0L + ?
Deja Vu
post May 8 2012, 01:29 PM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,864 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ May 8 2012, 08:43 AM)
Ure obviously from the older generation of ppl who associate engine capacity with power. The Jetta's 1.4TSI is a twin turbo engine with 158Hp and 240Nm torque. It beats most of the 2 liter D segment Japs e.g Camry, Accord and Teana in terms of power. Not to mention its more advanced 7 speed DSG gearbox. But all that comes with a price and at approx RM160K (OTR), it isnt cheap.

My choice would still be the Kia Optima K5 at only RM143,888 (OTR). It is slighty more powerful than comparable Jap models with 163Hp & 198Nm torque but with excellent specs, design and interior space.
*
Hv to agree tat K5 n Sonata YF makes more features/$$ paid. But apart from styling n price, I kinda find d coupe like rear a bit obstructive for entry if u often carry ppl in d back. Another thingy bout both Koreans is tat d cabin is more 'snug' than airy compared to d Jetta. Of course it depends on TS priorities.
cybermaster98
post May 8 2012, 01:39 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
4,440 posts

Joined: Jan 2010
From: Kuala Lumpur


QUOTE(ericmaxman @ May 8 2012, 08:58 AM)
you still dont get what i'm implying.
Now i did. Sorry! notworthy.gif
kenrain
post May 8 2012, 01:59 PM

New Member
*
Junior Member
24 posts

Joined: May 2007
From: Setapak


There's pros and cons on Jetta. The pros being that it is a continental car and you can expect a good NVH from it. Also the DSG gearbox is superb. If compared to Optima K5, the latter offers alot more gadgets that you can play with. Sunroof/moonroof, paddle shift, keyless system, Infinity sound system and not forgetting all the safety features it offers and larger space for rear passenger and huge boot size, with the jetta at around RM 10k more pricier. If you don't like gadgets and prefer good NVH, then go for jetta. If you want more value for the price you pay, then you should consider Optima K5
cybermaster98
post May 8 2012, 02:11 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
4,440 posts

Joined: Jan 2010
From: Kuala Lumpur


QUOTE(kenrain @ May 8 2012, 01:59 PM)
There's pros and cons on Jetta. The pros being that it is a continental car and you can expect a good NVH from it. Also the DSG gearbox is superb. If compared to Optima K5, the latter offers alot more gadgets that you can play with. Sunroof/moonroof, paddle shift, keyless system, Infinity sound system and not forgetting all the safety features it offers and larger space for rear passenger and huge boot size, with the jetta at around RM 10k more pricier. If you don't like gadgets and prefer good NVH, then go for jetta. If you want more value for the price you pay, then you should consider Optima K5
The Jetta is about 17K more (OTR) with insurance. Many ppl get confused between poor NVH and tyre noise. In the Optima's case, alot of the noise actually comes from the noisy stock Nexen tyres. But also keep in mind that 18 inch rims with low profile tyres are surely more noisy than smaller sized rims & tyres.

In saying this, i think the NVH on the Optima is quite good. Almost comparable with the class leading NVH Nissan Teana.

All in all, im still enjoying all the attention im getting at makan shops & traffic light stops. So far ive had 3 strangers come forward to ask about the car. Must mean something i guess eh? biggrin.gif
DJSoo
post May 8 2012, 03:03 PM

New Member
*
Junior Member
37 posts

Joined: Apr 2011


Refer to the topic... I will prefer Jetta.. Why? EURO car. Better performance , FC better due to 1.4TSI. .. Branded , design newer than civic and altis..

My comment.
mutt
post May 8 2012, 03:19 PM

please pronounce my nick as 'mood/mut' not 'mud/mat
******
Senior Member
1,288 posts

Joined: Jul 2007
From: Shah Alam



jetta looks cheap. just my opinion.
speedbird90
post May 8 2012, 03:51 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
231 posts

Joined: Sep 2010
I can't believe a kia was even considered an option or recommended by people here..
Madgeiser
post May 8 2012, 03:51 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
433 posts

Joined: Jan 2003


Do also bear in mind VW cars only need to be service every 15,000KM, compared to the rest which is usually every 5,000KM.

It is a 1.4 TSI, which is a twincharger. Beat the crap out of most 2.0L cars. It should also be more economical in terms on FC, as most of the torque is available very early on at the rev range, which is around 2,000 t0 4,000 RPM.

If it is compared between a K5 and a Jetta, i would take a Jetta in a heartbeat. It may not have as much gadget as a K5, the DSG gearbox and the twincharger more than makes up for it. biggrin.gif

End of the day, you will be sitting in it to drive, not to press button and play with gadgets. That how i see it anyway, a more torquey drive is always more enjoyable.



This post has been edited by Madgeiser: May 8 2012, 04:03 PM
cybermaster98
post May 8 2012, 05:40 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
4,440 posts

Joined: Jan 2010
From: Kuala Lumpur


QUOTE(speedbird90 @ May 8 2012, 03:51 PM)
I can't believe a kia was even considered an option or recommended by people here..
Do elaborate please


Added on May 8, 2012, 5:43 pm
QUOTE(Madgeiser @ May 8 2012, 03:51 PM)
Do also bear in  mind VW cars only need to be service every 15,000KM, compared to the rest which is usually every 5,000KM.
Most of the Jap and Korean cars using fully synthetic oil are serviced every 10,000km not 5,000.

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: May 8 2012, 05:43 PM
ma43q
post May 8 2012, 05:46 PM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,820 posts

Joined: Jan 2005
i would prefer the jetta but i think it is more accurate to compare jetta to civic and altis eventhough the optima k5 is within that price range.

jetta design is simpler and i think the outlook is more "conservative" but the interior is classy and solid.

i think the 1.4 twincharged engine is more than enough for the car. Can always go for a test drive.
kcng
post May 8 2012, 05:52 PM

~ Or@ng Giler ~
********
Senior Member
17,566 posts

Joined: Jan 2005
From: FFK Division - Klang



QUOTE(khoodennis @ May 7 2012, 02:53 PM)
To all the pros out there I need an advice on a mid range car. Budget is around RM150k +-
The mentioned mid range is something like in the class of Honda Civic, Toyota Altis  & my prefered choice is Volkswagen Jetta. Actually I prefers Passat(B7) year 2011 that offers 10% discount but it's sold out. The 2012 models don't offers any discount. Jetta still a considerable choice as it's 2011 made cars offers 10%.

ANY SALESMAN THAT'S READING THIS & GOT A 2011 PASSAT(B7) PLS PM. I'LL FLY OVER TO CLOSE THE DEAL.(WEST MALAYSIA ONLY)

Jetta:
The part that concerns me are the maintenance of the car. If fuel(monthly) & road tax(annually) is more is just +- RM100.00 then it's not much to compare about. It's just a small bite that won't be feel much.

The part that got me into thinking about it is the servicing part. Lubricant, gear oil & things that's not much talked about might come out with a OUCH!!! when paying the bill. Jetta offers 5 years warranty & surely it gotto goes to their official workshop. Also it's a twincharged car. I've never owned something like that. Servicing it would cost more?

That car is only 1.4CC. Underpower..? From what I've came to known it's technology...
1.4CC = 2.4CC of a non twin charged car. That's what the salesman told me.
Personally the talks of a salesman is called sales talk, the kind the just wants U to buy something from em.

Also I don't sees much of Jetta on the road. Any reason for it? Price is an issue for some? Yea... It's something that's in between & not many would goes for it. Mostly would just goes for Camry & Accord within that price range. Worth to pay the extras for the new technology.

As for me I'm looking at Volkswagen is offering AFFORDABLE TECHNOLOGY. Correct me if 'm wrong, there's not much of twincharge cars at these price range.

Jetta owners pls advice on this...

Civic & Altis:
It's just another normal car. From the starts of my 1st car till now there's nothing too special about it. Just that it's interior that might be better abit...

Final:
The feels of it when speeding... Weight & power gotto be balance. Weight is not what we sees on the paper only. When moving there's downforce, aerodynamics & for some it would be called stability.
At the highway which of these 3 would be better?
*
comparing in terms of?
driving dynamics, nothing come close jetta...
i've driven the jetta extensively over a weekend and sad to say, altis, optima, forte, koup, slyphy is no where near what the jetta chassis can do... it is very well composed even during mid corner correction...

highway cruise (150-160 km/h) is very well comfortable... the chassis just soak up the road imperfections but u will hear the tyres rolling noise... not loud but its there...

features wise is a hit and miss as there is alot of choices now for this range of car...
dont worry about maintenance as there is plenty of people that you can ask before you send your car in for service...
the key word here is to know exactly what need to be serviced and what dont... and u can keep your bill down
smile.gif

the TCU on the jetta is slightly diff from the Golf TSI (i think) as you can feel the creep with this jetta as compared to the golf TSI where it literally stay still even in D and the brakes are depressed...
very good in stop and go traffic (exactly like the normal torque converter based transmission)
smile.gif

dont let the 1400kg weigh fool u... it felt much lighter then that once u get behind the wheels....

P/S - if u are comparing outlooks, the jetta is just a plain girl next door where as the optima is girl with make-up, push up and deep v-necks..... if u get what i mean biggrin.gif
cybermaster98
post May 8 2012, 06:00 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
4,440 posts

Joined: Jan 2010
From: Kuala Lumpur


QUOTE(kcng @ May 8 2012, 05:52 PM)
comparing in terms of?
driving dynamics, nothing come close jetta...
i've driven the jetta extensively over a weekend and sad to say, altis, optima, forte, koup, slyphy is no where near what the jetta chassis can do... it is very well composed even during mid corner correction...

highway cruise (150-160 km/h) is very well comfortable... the chassis just soak up the road imperfections but u will hear the tyres rolling noise... not loud but its there...

features wise is a hit and miss as there is alot of choices now for this range of car...
dont worry about maintenance as there is plenty of people that you can ask before you send your car in for service...
the key word here is to know exactly what need to be serviced and what dont... and u can keep your bill down
smile.gif

the TCU on the jetta is slightly diff from the Golf TSI (i think) as you can feel the creep with this jetta as compared to the golf TSI where it literally stay still even in D and the brakes are depressed...
very good in stop and go traffic (exactly like the normal torque converter based transmission)
smile.gif

dont let the 1400kg weigh fool u... it felt much lighter then that once u get behind the wheels....

P/S - if u are comparing outlooks, the jetta is just a plain girl next door where as the optima is girl with make-up, push up and deep v-necks..... if u get what i mean biggrin.gif
The Optima is more than looks. Spec wise no other D segment model in that price range matches. It may not have top class handling compared to more refined brands like VW but the fact that ppl consider the Optima as direct competition to the VW is statement enough on the improvements that Kia has made.
kcng
post May 8 2012, 06:05 PM

~ Or@ng Giler ~
********
Senior Member
17,566 posts

Joined: Jan 2005
From: FFK Division - Klang



QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ May 8 2012, 06:00 PM)
The Optima is more than looks. Spec wise no other D segment model in that price range matches. It may not have top class handling compared to more refined brands like VW but the fact that ppl consider the Optima as direct competition to the VW is statement enough on the improvements that Kia has made.
*
that is why i ask comparing in terms of what?

btw handling is more then just corner baring
biggrin.gif
Quazacolt
post May 8 2012, 06:42 PM

Riding couple
*******
Senior Member
5,369 posts

Joined: Jan 2007
From: KL Malaysia


QUOTE(kcng @ May 8 2012, 05:52 PM)
comparing in terms of?
driving dynamics, nothing come close jetta...
i've driven the jetta extensively over a weekend and sad to say, altis, optima, forte, koup, slyphy is no where near what the jetta chassis can do... it is very well composed even during mid corner correction...

highway cruise (150-160 km/h) is very well comfortable... the chassis just soak up the road imperfections but u will hear the tyres rolling noise... not loud but its there...

features wise is a hit and miss as there is alot of choices now for this range of car...
dont worry about maintenance as there is plenty of people that you can ask before you send your car in for service...
the key word here is to know exactly what need to be serviced and what dont... and u can keep your bill down
smile.gif

the TCU on the jetta is slightly diff from the Golf TSI (i think) as you can feel the creep with this jetta as compared to the golf TSI where it literally stay still even in D and the brakes are depressed...
very good in stop and go traffic (exactly like the normal torque converter based transmission)
smile.gif

dont let the 1400kg weigh fool u... it felt much lighter then that once u get behind the wheels....

P/S - if u are comparing outlooks, the jetta is just a plain girl next door where as the optima is girl with make-up, push up and deep v-necks..... if u get what i mean biggrin.gif
*
this line is convincing enough, thanks smile.gif

11 Pages < 1 2 3 4 > » Top
 

Change to:
| Lo-Fi Version
0.0233sec    0.54    5 queries    GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 17th December 2025 - 12:49 AM