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RPG Diablo III v4, Q2 2012, Best PC Game of the Century

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LemoNT
post Apr 30 2012, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(Y.K. @ Apr 30 2012, 04:44 PM)
i'll put watever cap ayam gear on my body n keep moving till the end only start the farming story lol
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cap ayam blue items also will have stats ma smile.gif
Guess his question is if you see same armor,
eg: 3 boots all with 8 armor:

1) +5 *primary attribute for dmg* or +atk speed/dps
2) +5% GF
3) +5% MF.

Which would you go for if you happen to find all 3? smile.gif

This post has been edited by LemoNT: Apr 30 2012, 05:03 PM
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post Apr 30 2012, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(LemoNT @ Apr 30 2012, 04:58 PM)
cap ayam blue items also will have stats ma smile.gif
Guess his question is if you see same armor,
eg: 3 boots all with 8 armor, 1 is +5 *primary attribute for dmg*, another +5% GF and last +5% MF.
Which would you go for if you happen to find all 3? smile.gif
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lol i get it d

attribute first, then gf. mf only late stage smile.gif

mf is not so efficient on early stage: low lvl items, n small amount of mf is not so significant.
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post Apr 30 2012, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(LemoNT @ Apr 30 2012, 04:58 PM)
cap ayam blue items also will have stats ma smile.gif
Guess his question is if you see same armor,
eg: 3 boots all with 8 armor:

1) +5 *primary attribute for dmg* or +atk speed/dps
2) +5% GF
3) +5% MF.

Which would you go for if you happen to find all 3? smile.gif
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If my coop partner have more MF, then i will choose GF item to balance. Make sense isnt it?
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post Apr 30 2012, 05:23 PM

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wizard video, the walking electricity.. i never LOL so hard in my life my family in living room thought i kena possessed.. good job blizzard notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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post Apr 30 2012, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(moodswingfella @ Apr 30 2012, 05:23 PM)
If my coop partner have more MF, then i will choose GF item to balance. Make sense isnt it?
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but hor how u going to know their mf/gf? even fixed partner they'll always change gear too smile.gif
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post Apr 30 2012, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(moodswingfella @ Apr 30 2012, 05:23 PM)
If my coop partner have more MF, then i will choose GF item to balance. Make sense isnt it?
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MF (with current info) is split between party members.
Don't know if it's the same with GF.

But if it is, then it's 1/2 GF & MF.
You're chasing after both rabbits smile.gif
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post Apr 30 2012, 05:28 PM

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Oh my God, Wizard seems like a tons of fun!!! drool.gif Can't wait! rclxms.gif
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post Apr 30 2012, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(Y.K. @ Apr 30 2012, 05:27 PM)
but hor how u going to know their mf/gf? even fixed partner they'll always change gear too smile.gif
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You can inspect their gear/equip bro.
There seem to be a space to list the stats (to the left of inspect window) but in beta it was not showing anything.

Either that or if it's a friend that can tell you their MF from their char sheet smile.gif


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QUOTE(fizyboy @ Apr 30 2012, 05:28 PM)
Oh my God, Wizard seems like a tons of fun!!!  drool.gif  Can't wait!  rclxms.gif
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I can't wait... to sink my weapon into Diablo! biggrin.gif

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post Apr 30 2012, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(Y.K. @ Apr 30 2012, 05:27 PM)
but hor how u going to know their mf/gf? even fixed partner they'll always change gear too smile.gif
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normally I play with my friends via TS3, so we can talk and ask directly. smile.gif
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post Apr 30 2012, 05:36 PM

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i wondering....this is online game? like WoW? no longer the multiplayer games like last time?
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post Apr 30 2012, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(moodswingfella @ Apr 30 2012, 05:31 PM)
normally I play with my friends via TS3, so we can talk and ask directly.  smile.gif
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Seriously wonder how Blizzard gonna handle the MF sharing issue.
If it's divided equally between party members, the person with highest MF is at a disadvantage when he could be playing solo and have higher % MF.

One might argue that other party member have more DPS and can kill faster.
Even so, if the high % MF already has sufficient DPS to solo a single player game at a reasonable rate, what would make him to join in a multiplayer game then?

Imagine a 2 player game:

Player A - 100 DPS & 1000% MF.
Player B - 150 DPS & 400% MF.

If split equal = 700% MF each.
if both also can solo their own games (B obviously faster than A) but not a huge margin (5min maybe? for a champion packs/boss or farm run)

Would you, as player A, wanna join in a 2 player game?


EDIT: Just for example purpose I'm saying boss/champion pack run.
I know bout the Nephalem Valor buff wink.gif

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post Apr 30 2012, 05:42 PM

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So most people will concentrate on MF/GF then.
What would you do with the gold?
Some said they will spend it on artisan and stash, some say wanna sell it to make $$.

How about you guys?
Idk which is better, hard to tell also, we don't know whether the gold market will be active or not come release. But what are your plans for the gold you accumulate?
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post Apr 30 2012, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(LemoNT @ Apr 30 2012, 05:42 PM)
Seriously wonder how Blizzard gonna handle the MF sharing issue.
If it's divided equally between party members, the person with highest MF is at a disadvantage when he could be playing solo and have higher % MF.

One might argue that other party member have more DPS and can kill faster.
Even so, if the high % MF already has sufficient DPS to solo a single player game at a reasonable rate, what would make him to join in a multiplayer game then?

Imagine a 2 player game:

Player A - 100 DPS & 1000% MF.
Player B - 150 DPS & 400% MF.

If split equal = 700% MF each.
if both also can solo their own games (B obviously faster than A) but not a huge margin (5min maybe?)

Would you, as player A, wanna join in a 2 player game?
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not a quite good chart.. dont forget that in nightmare and above, its not common to get killed in 2-3 hits.. it should be like

Player A - 100DPS 1000%MF 100HP %
Player B - 300-400DPS 400%MF 200HP %
Player C = 700DPS 0%MF 400HP %

on Inferno, i would rather party with b and c more than a..
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post Apr 30 2012, 05:48 PM

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QUOTE(LemoNT @ Apr 30 2012, 05:42 PM)
Seriously wonder how Blizzard gonna handle the MF sharing issue.
If it's divided equally between party members, the person with highest MF is at a disadvantage when he could be playing solo and have higher % MF.

One might argue that other party member have more DPS and can kill faster.
Even so, if the high % MF already has sufficient DPS to solo a single player game at a reasonable rate, what would make him to join in a multiplayer game then?

Imagine a 2 player game:

Player A - 100 DPS & 1000% MF.
Player B - 150 DPS & 400% MF.

If split equal = 700% MF each.
if both also can solo their own games (B obviously faster than A) but not a huge margin (5min maybe? for a champion packs/boss or farm run)

Would you, as player A, wanna join in a 2 player game?
EDIT: Just for example purpose I'm saying boss/champion pack run.
I know bout the Nephalem Valor buff wink.gif
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If i player A, yea y not i play together with player B. We can still trade unwanted item or help each other by swaping item. unless if u playing via public where most of them just MYOB.

QUOTE(markypcs @ Apr 30 2012, 05:42 PM)
So most people will concentrate on MF/GF then.
What would you do with the gold?
Some said they will spend it on artisan and stash, some say wanna sell it to make $$.

How about you guys?
Idk which is better, hard to tell also, we don't know whether the gold market will be active or not come release. But what are your plans for the gold you accumulate?
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Both are important. Like me, I concentrate on MF and my fren focus on GF.

i earn more Mf so that i can salvage them. While my fren will ask me to craft for him and give me some good amount of money for me to train my artisan.

I realized in this game, it is good if we can find 'steady' coop mate who willingly help each other and tolerate.

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post Apr 30 2012, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(sorrowstar @ Apr 30 2012, 05:47 PM)
not a quite good chart.. dont forget that in nightmare and above, its not common to get killed in 2-3 hits.. it should be like

Player A - 100DPS 1000%MF 100HP %
Player B - 300-400DPS 400%MF 200HP %
Player C = 700DPS 0%MF 400HP %

on Inferno, i would rather party with b and c more than a..
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Even so, if the high % MF already has sufficient DPS to solo a single player game at a reasonable rate, what would make him to join in a multiplayer game then?


Do you as Player A (in my example) still wanna join in a 2player game that increases the mobs dmg/hp?


EDIT:
Note, YOU are player A (in my example).
If you join in player B's game, you may die coz of the increased mob difficulty (unless you swap gear, we'll take that temporary out of this discussion for now because it voids the purpose, can just no need to equip so much MF in the first place tongue.gif).
But if you solo, you can kill the mobs without problem.

No need to see the 100 DPS number so strictly it is meant to show as a number only.
In end-game Inferno weapons can be hundreds of DPS (without even factoring in the stats for +dmg)

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post Apr 30 2012, 05:52 PM

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Whats MF? GF? all the short codes? anyone?
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post Apr 30 2012, 05:54 PM

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post Apr 30 2012, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(leongkokloon @ Apr 30 2012, 05:52 PM)
Whats MF? GF? all the short codes? anyone?
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MF : magic find
GF : gold find

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post Apr 30 2012, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(moodswingfella @ Apr 30 2012, 05:55 PM)
MF : magic find
GF : gold find

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ow okok thx thumbup.gif

When playing D3.... we shud trade our items with each other first... XD

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post Apr 30 2012, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(LemoNT @ Apr 30 2012, 05:50 PM)
Do you as Player A (in my example) still wanna join in a 2player game that increases the mobs dmg/hp?
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depends on how high %MF can anyone pump while being able to solo the game.. anything over 600% and i would rather solo the game..
logically it should be around 1200-1300% MF max with all item prefix and gems with the info we have now..

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