hello guys....im having a 2011 Toyota Camry 2.0G(tyre size 215 / 60 R16).Im planning to change the tyres.I need a good tyre and i dont really care abt the price.I need a tyre which is comfort and silent with good handling and i have a few choices.(only brand )(u could give a more specific model and that will be highly appreciated)If u have any other choices u can mention it...so here it is :

1)Michelin
2)Bridgestone
3)Continental
4)Toyo
5)Yokohama

Im really confused since the tyre dealers was not able to give detailed information.Some of my friends said michelin is more silent & comfortable and more expensive than bridgestone thus it is better.(they presume more expensive more better but i dont)The tyres should also perform good in the highways cause i always drive fast..

Another question(pls dun mind)im planning to buy another car and my choice is Peugot 508.Is it a good car?Is it reliable?Is it better than my camry 2011?I heard it doesnt have second value compared to camry...bt is it still a good car ?

Well I tried R1R and it gives me pretty good performance. Not sure about silent cause my car very loud anyway.

Michelin PS3. Quiet, awesome grip in wet and dry.

U forgot to mention PS3 have very soft sidewall and his tyre is 60 means high sidewall. Put those 2 together, its not a good thing.

If $$$ not a concern then Conti CSC5 tops my list

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Added on April 18, 2012, 6:06 pmIf $$$ not a concern then Conti CSC5 tops my list

This post has been edited by gladfly: Apr 18 2012, 06:06 PM

they don't even make profile 60 lol. only got profile 55. Not too bad la the sidewall, pump the psi higher by a few psi problem solved

Tyre pressure doesnt affect the regidity of the sidewall wor... too soft and under heavy conering there is a risk...

Actually.. i dont think many high performance tyres makes 60 profile.... cause... Sports & high sidewall doesnt go together

60 profile and 55 is negligible la. last time i use prof 60 on rear, now change to 195/55/15, not much diff also

actually tyre pressure does affect rigidity of sidewall. you go track day, every PSI counts. I pumped my tires (Eagle F1 D5, Hankook V12) all the way up to 40psi on track day lol. After that try soften it to 35psi and bloody hell the sidewalls started rolling in the corners

Apalah..ppl drive Camry and you are recommending R1R...

Track day... on a camry? Tyres would be the last of his concern bro...

nola just giving an example of what i learnt during track day with my Waja. a few PSI increase will stiffen up your sidewalls

what abt yokohama C drive?
i saw it scored quite high in those review sites(rated by users)

yokohama advan sport, or yokohama decibel, michelin XM2, michelin primacy all is good choice, new good year ASF2

PS3, good for daily driving.. soft wall can give xtra comfort.. wanna race please use low profile tyre.. seriously its grip at dry time n a lot better in wet compare to others..
use it now, really glad buy it..

The most expensive one is the best

dont think so in term of overall winner..

mainly for comfort/low NVH. and i would assume c.drive2, c drive is an old gen tire

i know
but from that site i see....C drive 2 score still low cuz still new i guess
cuz that site...users of the tyre drive until change only they go give score
and C drive scores quite high there

biggest flaw of c.drive 2 is still the treadwear, that could affect ratings/reviews.

that and its wet performance is definitely not up to par on performance tires from michelin/goodyear/bridgestone, or even the cheaper korean kumho/hankook v12 variants

ya its the original profile(60) but its not a big deal because i'd prefer to change into lower profile tyre maybe 55 or 50.

heres some links for reference(from what i said)
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre-Size/14-...60-14-Tyres.htm

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre-Size/

Yokohama Advan dB has a reputation of comfortable and good wet and dry traction....

Seriously bro, just get the PS3. You'll never regret it. The awesome thing about the tire is that its eerily quiet. Even when you push the tire to the limit, understeer or skidding due to hard braking, the tire squeel is nowhere near to what you're used to. This is coming from someone who've used shitty Silverstone, value for money Hankook Ventus V12, All-rounder Goodyear Eagle F1 Directional 5 and finally the PS3 and although the tire is the most expensive of the bunch, it beats all the tires in every single way in terms of braking, accelerating, cornering and noise.

overall agree with u on PS3, but in quietness dept, Primacy LC wins
i changed from shitty NCT5 to Primacy LC, so big difference, makes me wonder if NCT5 is really a tyre
after that changed to PS3, a bit noisier but fantastic wet grip... Water puddles are nothing, just slice thru
next one going to try XM2 in another few months

This post has been edited by kenji1903: Apr 19 2012, 07:56 AM

I never know there is PS3 for Camry size. I wanted to use it on my Accord previously but the shop Hup Shun said PS3 were not available, then I opted for XM2 which performs great.

depends la. PS3 got 55 profile only, don't have 60 profile. but width and diameter same. Its up to the shop whether they want to give anot lol.

XM2 no no .

you tried PS3 you go change to XM2, dangerous.

They do not give us for a reason. Probably our cars are too heavy to be fitted 55 profile? I don't know.. but there should be a reason as I said.

Bridgestone Potenza Adrenalin RE002 / RE050
Yokohama Advan Sport or S-Drive
Pirelli P ZERO NERO

Take yer pick, but do remember the lives of these rubbers are short.

yeah man, XM2 is a totally different range with PS3

If you're used to cornering with the PS3, you're gonna curse like hell when you're on the XM2 lol.

its just not factory spec. simple as that. some workshop won't want to mess with factory specs, but if you ask me, the diff between profile 55 and 60 is minimal, even negligible.

no comments on the bridgestone or pirelli, but the S-drive have pretty crappy wet grip

The Bridgestones lose their wet grip after 20,000 to 30,000 kms. After that they aquaplane like nobody's business and RWD become sensitive to the slightest hits of power in the wet.

The S-drives are OK in the wet. They're the stockers that come with the Evo and I suppose the AWD makes up for the shite wet grip since you have power on 4. I currently drive on these.

The P-Zero Neros are awesome handlers, but they cost a bomb, have the lifespan of a mayfly and their NVH jacks up a few notches as they get older.

i'm using Bridgestone RE080 (stock 185/60R15) in my current car, so XM2 (upgrading to 195/55R15) will be a lot better

my other car is on PS3 but usually don't drive that fast due to the bodyroll

you're driving a Vios? if not mistaken those are stock Vios tires lol. PS3 also have in your size if not mistaken.

XM2 is not meant for superb wet grip...but for long lasting...dun push too hard ya...

yeah, stock
should have but i'll prefer slightly wider tyres cos i corner fast and have some bars

wider tires? time to change rims then

bigger rim with wider J...

This post has been edited by dinwaja: Apr 19 2012, 06:45 PM

no need lar, keeping my stock G rims, they worth quite a lot and more durable

but the miserable 5.5jj some times is pain in the butt...

find 6.5j or 7j. 195/55/15 sudah.

if you want wider have to up the inches also lol.

5.5j max can go 195/55R15 only... i'll stick to that first lar, cos buying a set of good rims will cos around RM2-3k... i'll save that up for my new car in future, thanks for the advice though

funny .. how can you compare XM2 to PS3 ... totally different league .. entry level vs high performance tyre ..

Beside ps3, is there no others brand model can compare with it? Like cheaper but performance not different so much.

you can look into goodyear/bridgestone

then there are the japanese yokohama/toyo

scaling further down would be the koreans (kumho/hankook), even further down indonesia (GT radial/achilles)

but PS3 not cheap.. around 450 a piece rite? in comparison hankook v12 is abt 300+ a piece...

guys i have different opinion for PS3, currently using it on my hyundai accent 195/55/15, change it from Good Year GSD3 eagle f1. But once compare in wet wat i feel is gsd3 would be much more better than ps3.

Before change it to ps3 a lot of ppl recommend this saying that its much more better than my gsd3. In dry condition i got no problem with it but wet i doubt it.

Any comment.

Currently all 4 corners im on RE002, n damn, this tires is damn grippy in the dry... Now clocked almost 15k kms on this set of tires, n im loving every bit of it... But, noisy also, but negliable for me

This post has been edited by ikiey: Apr 20 2012, 11:26 AM

u can go search tyre review.

which they took several tyres and compare.

in terms of wet & overall

GY F1Ass2 > PS3



F1A2 is above GSD5 ( no more GSD3, but ppl claimed GSD3 is better than GSD5).

F1A2 and PS3 very very emphasis on wet, which is very important in malaysia. Dry grip is nothing unless u go sepang. rainy day we see malaysian accident very frequent.

but look at the groove on GSD5, i would say wet performance is not as good as PS3.

simple, look at ps3 and F1A2, the straight groove is big....GSD5 is V thread for dry grip

directional tires are primarily for wet traction.
V treads or directional treads have NO ADDITIONAL benefits compared to regular tires (or asymmetrical tires) for dry performance, grip or traction
do note that grip and traction while inter-related, are different things altogether.

the only drawback for directional tires are less options for tire rotations, and tire noise.

ah, yes u are right.

the F1 D5 also has straight groove

This post has been edited by turbocharged: Apr 20 2012, 12:25 PM

using 225/45/18 on camry 2.0G..... using 3rd set now for ps3... in my opinion is noisy... but is because i'm now 225 with 18 inch... good grip but 60 series tyres are more on comfort oriented instead of performance... actually the highest range of all are the pilot super sports for michelin.. but those are only for performace car... coz smallest size are 18 inch...


btw... noise is very subjective where the car NVH alone are the key player...

well, another thing to note is AS2 is GY's flagship UHP and price ranges of rm500-1.7k. (give/take)
while D5 is mid-range UHP and ranges from rm300-800+

so logically, AS2 should be better than D5

depends on the size

i'm on 195/55/15 so PS3 is RM288 for me while V12 is RM205 lol. Thats why they say the V12 is value for money king.

never tried the GSD3 so no comment but i tried the Goodyear F1 D5 and the PS3 trumps it in every way. Just my honest review

IMO the Goodyear F1 D5 is very very similar to the V12 in terms of grip in dry and wet. Only thing noticeable is the harder sidewalls compared to the V12, other than that pretty much the same.

price almost the same leh...

price almost same..not sure...
performance totally not...
michelin XM2 is intended for long lasting.fuel saving..fuel saving tires has less grip...so means not for performance that u can get from performance tires...
google la...u'll find ur answer...
right now i'm driving on XM2...this tire only for silent,decent dry n wet grip...decent..very decent...comfort tire..what do u expect it for?

see here..

XM2

PS3

see the big differences?if still think XM2 is on PS3 level,then u really need to learn more...

This post has been edited by dinwaja: Apr 20 2012, 07:45 PM

not necessary bro...

yeah...expensive not always means good or better...

Yeah the Goodyear F1 Directional 5 costs RM265 a piece but then IMO the performance is more or less the same with a Hankook Ventus V12 which costs RM205 a piece. The PS3 is on a totally different level though so to me the RM288 price is justified

ps3 more comfort than xm2 ???

r u referring to the links given?erm...that i can't comment..never use PS3....XM2 yes...but i know PS3 is way higher level than XM2...

my PS3 after almost 50k is quite noisy. in terms of dry and wet grip is absolute top notch though. but PS3 is considered as high performance tire.
Primacy LC is very quiet but grip and stability less since it's a comfort tire

CSC5 don't have 16" sizes. high performance tire

Goodyear Eagle F1 asymmetric 2; performance tire, i heard it's pretty quiet too.



This post has been edited by phas3r: Apr 20 2012, 08:12 PM

2 XM2 reviews vs 74 PS3 reviews

i've not tried XM2 but i do have Primacy LC and PS3... grip wise, PS3 wins hands down (especially wet grip), noise and comfort wise, Primacy LC
so thinking whether XM2 is in between Primacy LC and PS3? headache

u wont get PS3/F1A2 for this sizes

dun care how much being reviewed la dude..I'M USING XM2....if u dun believed us,go to michelin website la...aiyo...XM2 is entry level for michelin...just like M5 for silverstone...i have no more friendly advise to u if u still think XM2 is the same level with PS3...

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Added on April 20, 2012, 11:33 pmif there's any1 can help this guy...

This post has been edited by dinwaja: Apr 20 2012, 11:33 PM

i didn't say they are same level lar, i said they are the same price
i know XM2 is just an upgrade from their entry level XM1
but like i said, i'm just curious why a high performance tyre can be priced similarly with an entry level...

can share your review on XM2? have you tried PS3?

hmm....why not u view
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1871711/+560

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Added on April 20, 2012, 11:43 pmprice perhaps not much differ from PS3...but the performance does.if u used to PS3,dun go for XM2...seriously.

This post has been edited by dinwaja: Apr 20 2012, 11:43 PM

ei... not bad mar your review
wet and dry grip good, quiet, long lasting... just what i need

i find PS3 noisy compared to Primacy LC and not as lasting due to the thread wear... the wet grip is perfect but i don't drive that fast during rain anyway

dry grip... ok la...
wet grip...still acceptable...but dun go too fast...this is valid for a new tire only...after left only 60% or 50%,all tire is the same...less grip...
silent...superb...

however,if u intent to take fast corner...high speed....adrenalin drive...XM2 is not the candidate...

hmm... you are starting to change my mind... maybe i'll get both... let me wife try XM2 then i go for PS3 cos i take very fast corners
thanks bro

wah...ur safety is more important than ur wife ar?remind her not to go too fast...

This post has been edited by dinwaja: Apr 21 2012, 04:32 AM

Since both the V12 and the F1 D5 is rated as UHP tires, the XM2 rated as normal use fuel-saving tires, and the PS3 trumps both the V12 and F1 D5, i won't go for the XM2 lol.

cannot say like that... different cars suit different tyres... dugong has softer suspension setup thus better with PS3, City suspension very hard, need comfort tyres
she said she prefers Primacy LC compared to PS3, too bad Primacy LC no longer selling

u know what...i just found out today...
the tires used in Preve, GTRadial, is better than XM2!!!!
i went for a test drive...i was quite impressive...walaweh....but i dun remember the model name...will check again later...

GT Radial Champiro Bax 2, check it out here.

u sure its better then xm2? in term of?

yes.dry grip...

Just fit 195/50/R15 in my myvi...Grip is good, still need to drive longer to test the performance for PS3...Each rubber is not that cheap, but hope it's worth for value.

update ur comment here later....

This post has been edited by dinwaja: Apr 21 2012, 07:36 PM

different tires, different purpose. nuff said

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Added on April 21, 2012, 7:35 pmps3 should be worth its value. among the best all rounder tires (dry/wet/NVH/treadwear)

the only downside i can find from ps3 is probably the price.

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Apr 21 2012, 07:35 PM

i think u misunderstand here... nvm la...

Still havent tested it during raining...noise I will still hear, most probably myvi has bad sound proof overall...Handling improves as its now wider and lower-profile tires are fitted in than the stock ones... I guess 195/55 gives more comfort? Never test thou.

Try Yokohama dB series, they are always good.

Now they have Yokohama ADVAN dB V551, which combine sport driving at superb minimal noise, recommended for those luxury vehicle like your Camry.

Need to check whether got such size for your type. Or you can go for Yokohama C-Drive, which mainly for comfort driving.

yeah looks quite impressive....
what do you think about toyo tyres?

planning to change my camry tyre

any comment for bridgestone Turanza GR 90 or any other suggestion pls.

Best tyre? One man's meat is the other's poison! As long as one is happy can Liao!

hmm expensive becouz of the premium tyres lol so many people trust on it then will choose it to use la

wow u drive the camry car edy means that you have much budget on changing tyres lol
i think you can choose the tyre wic good quality as PS3 on your car
normally PS 3 does not have a lot of problem

cc6 or cc5 is one of the continental tyre? how is the performance on wet road?

but even though cc6 is mid range tyre but the price is only slightly lower than others premum tyre.

some economy tyre also has good quality even though it is cheaper than premium tyre.
high in price doesn't means good in quality.

Those high price branded tyre generally are good quality tyres! But whether it suits one's car or driving style is another story ! Some not branded tyres can be as efficient and good quality as well! Branded tyres had to be high price, just imagine the money they spent sponsoring F1 and other major racing events ! Used to use premium tyres but recently found one that perform equally good non branded one!

Watch this video explaining back to back comparison between cheapo tires vs top tires.

This is also another good video about tires. So which one are you the dickheads or the non dickheads??



This post has been edited by 6UE5T: Nov 30 2017, 11:12 PM

i agree with you
i almost use cc6 tyres on my car becouz of it lower noisy level
heihei and the price is slighly cheaper than other premium brand of tyre

no i don't agree wic you
as i know eco tyre ahve cheaper price but how it can compared with premiun brand of tyres such as cc6
there is more different on performance of driving between this two type of tyres

Giti Control280 225/45/17 @ $300 a piece, but treadwear only 280, so far so good, slightly on par with Goodyear A2

This post has been edited by GuyM: Dec 1 2017, 07:11 PM


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