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 PROTON SAGA BLM, FL, FLX CLUB V22 - Live or Die

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dares
post Apr 18 2012, 10:06 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Apr 18 2012, 10:04 PM)
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Flipped, but door still can open.
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post Apr 18 2012, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Apr 18 2012, 09:45 PM)
Just remember this, you're buying a sub RM 50k car. If there is problem, and there will be, remember how much you paid for it.

It's not a bad car, every car have problems. Difference is, you buy a 50k car, you may have many RM200 problem. You buy a RM 100k car, you may have fewer problems, but each of them costs RM 1,000, and you pay higher installment amount.

I'm saying this because I don't want you to come back here and say "My car masuk SC, damn you for saying Proton Saga is a good car!!!"
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haha...agreed ....point noted, Thanks notworthy.gif

QUOTE(davidke20 @ Apr 18 2012, 10:04 PM)
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shakehead.gif  i tot i ask you dun buy?  shakehead.gif

Anyway, the photo was from 1 of our LYN forumer, he survived the crash but came back and barsh about GAGA, just like ERIC. Look closely to how many pillars of divider has been brought down by the car, ended up hit a tiang and flipped over, and the guy still able to come back and post in forum? You to judge his speed during the event.

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ABANZA also can not tahan ar? shakehead.gif
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wahh...GaGa Tin Milo like this if crash with ABANZA tongue.gif
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post Apr 18 2012, 10:18 PM

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post Apr 18 2012, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(mycerdas @ Apr 18 2012, 10:10 PM)
wahh...GaGa Tin Milo like this if crash with ABANZA  tongue.gif
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After readin so many posts/views PLUS seeing those pics, yu still call Saga Tin Milo???
BETTER DUN EVEN CONSIDER BUYING A SAGA!!!

Very UNSafe car!!! Phew! doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

ps. Yr brain pretty much very polluted oledi... sad.gif

This post has been edited by zeone: Apr 18 2012, 10:31 PM
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post Apr 18 2012, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(zeone @ Apr 18 2012, 10:29 PM)
After readin so many posts/views PLUS seeing those pics, yu still call Saga Tin Milo???
BETTER DUN EVEN CONSIDER BUYING A SAGA!!!

Very UNSafe car!!! Phew! doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

ps. Yr brain pretty much very polluted oledi... sad.gif
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Chillax bro
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post Apr 18 2012, 10:38 PM

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pps. Can some1 plse enlighten re how much one pays for an Avanza 2suffer that kind of damage with a Saga?
TQ very much!! tongue.gif
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post Apr 18 2012, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(zeone @ Apr 18 2012, 10:29 PM)
After readin so many posts/views PLUS seeing those pics, yu still call Saga Tin Milo???
BETTER DUN EVEN CONSIDER BUYING A SAGA!!!

Very UNSafe car!!! Phew! doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

ps. Yr brain pretty much very polluted oledi... sad.gif
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No offence...but I just making a twisted statement as per davidke20 did with his list. cool2.gif
Of course the picture speaks for it self ....the plotong body seems sturdy although previously I was wondering how the Tin Milo is as per plotong bashers says. icon_rolleyes.gif

The doors still can be openned indicate that its good as well...as per my understanding ...correct me im wrong smile.gif
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post Apr 18 2012, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(jerrymouse @ Apr 18 2012, 10:01 PM)
Great information !!!! thumbup.gif  so as a conclusion, can I send my FL to Proton SC and ask the mechanic to adjust the brake bank range?
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Not sure you're allowed to do that, your car god ABS mou? If got ABS not sure whether can do. Adjust tight or not is totally up to you. Below are the comparison. Sorry, I'm a fact person(bloody left brainer shakehead.gif ), so most of the time I'll use point form to do comparison rclxub.gif

Tight
Good
1) Less braking engage/disengage sound
2) Brake pedal feeling more gradual increase of force
3) Brake force is very strong, can stop the car in very short distance(within normal driving speed)
Bad
1) Brake pad faster gao dim
2) Drink more petrol cause brakes is always semi engaged
3) Speed racers could get killed because the brake shoe is always heated up. It will loose function if tauke too much(brake pad already heated up > working temperature). Normal driver wouldn't affect much as no drastic drifting/side braking/jam brakes often. However, I have no experience with doing this with ABS. Not sure whether Plotong ABS control the rear drum brakes hmm.gif

Loose(factory setting)
Good
1) Accurate braking, demand more on front disc brake. Could be better FC due to bearings are spinning at optimal momentum without brakes blockage.
2) Brake pedal feeling is right to the point when you hit the brake hard, the car will transfer force to the front
3) ABS settings are running at optimal. Even jam brake, the front disc are given tolerance to move steering wheels to gain control, whilst rear brake is having minimal allowance to let the car sway away from immediate collision during a head on(which is why everytime you see the crash test they only crash half the right side of the car)
Bad
1) Front brake pad faster gao dim
2) If not ABS, you hit the brake pedal, the car wouldn't stop immediately. If you try again harder, it jammed thumbup.gif If you're lucky, you leave a long tire mark on the road, or somebody go pick you and your car up from longkang whistling.gif
3) Brake engage/disengage sound can be annoying bcoz BLM/FL/FLX soundproof is... err... nevermind la shakehead.gif
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post Apr 18 2012, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Apr 18 2012, 10:35 PM)
Chillax bro
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So Sorry, Bro dares...me vry slow in posting...
Using ole iP 3GS nia.


Added on April 18, 2012, 10:45 pm
QUOTE(mycerdas @ Apr 18 2012, 10:39 PM)
No offence...but I just making a twisted statement as per davidke20 did with his list.  cool2.gif
Of course the picture speaks for it self ....the plotong body seems sturdy although previously I was wondering how the Tin Milo is as per plotong bashers says.  icon_rolleyes.gif

The doors still can be openned indicate that its good as well...as per my understanding ...correct me im wrong  smile.gif
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1k apologies...
Thot Bro davidke20 only 1 of rare breed nia... rolleyes.gif

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post Apr 18 2012, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Apr 18 2012, 10:06 PM)
Flipped, but door still can open.
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If you remember my 1st TT lecture regarding factory windshield.

QUOTE(xshiro @ Sep 7 2009, 03:03 AM)
bro...the stock ..goodyear ducaro or silverstone..is really really bad....for safer ride..change to better tyre..but cannot help la if got aquaplanning...but can reduce it with good tyre


Added on September 7, 2009, 3:10 am

the pillar section is quite strong...but i really insaf after seeing this sweat.gif
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Sorry bro Xshiro, its not the pillar itself. Lot more information dunno how to explain here, need to point finger up and down
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post Apr 18 2012, 11:25 PM

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Dear BLM Member

Just want to check do proton still sale the 1.6executive normal 4 speed auto gear box saga ?

IF got
1.6Executive come with leather or pvc sit cover ?


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post Apr 18 2012, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Apr 18 2012, 10:55 PM)
If you remember my 1st TT lecture regarding factory windshield.
Sorry bro Xshiro, its not the pillar itself. Lot more information dunno how to explain here, need to point finger up and down
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I remember.

But don't discount the strength of the pillars, especially the B-pillar in this case.
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post Apr 18 2012, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(zeone @ Apr 18 2012, 10:41 PM)
Thot Bro davidke20 only 1 of rare breed nia... rolleyes.gif
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so true biggrin.gif

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post Apr 18 2012, 11:55 PM

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My FLX 1.3CVT is past 8K already. I am also starting to hear the "gruk gruk" sound from the rear brakes when I press on the brakes.

I haven't upgraded my CVT during the last 5K service as they had no stock. I guess during my next 10K service, will have a lot to replace.

Overall, I am quite happy with the FLX. It's only a RM45K mistake... as compared to those who will be buying the Prayway.
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post Apr 19 2012, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(peet @ Apr 18 2012, 11:55 PM)

Overall, I am quite happy with the FLX. It's only a RM45K mistake... as compared to those who will be buying the Prayway.
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Not being very subtle about it whistling.gif
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post Apr 19 2012, 12:04 AM

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Maybe I should rephrase. At 45K, there is not a lot to dislike about the FLX.
But will my next car be another Proton? Hmm.... hmm.gif

QUOTE(dares @ Apr 19 2012, 12:00 AM)
Not being very subtle about it  whistling.gif
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post Apr 19 2012, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(peet @ Apr 19 2012, 12:04 AM)
Maybe I should rephrase. At 45K, there is not a lot to dislike about the FLX.
But will my next car be another Proton? Hmm.... hmm.gif
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i can say a refined car, it's the 3rd iteration of saga 2nd generation (blm, fl, flx)
thanks to those early adopters
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post Apr 19 2012, 12:16 AM

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QUOTE(peet @ Apr 19 2012, 12:04 AM)
Maybe I should rephrase. At 45K, there is not a lot to dislike about the FLX.
But will my next car be another Proton? Hmm.... hmm.gif
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Heh, don't worry about it.

Most of here know what our gaga is and what it is not. Don't be afraid to say what you like or don't like.
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QUOTE(peet @ Apr 19 2012, 12:04 AM)
Maybe I should rephrase. At 45K, there is not a lot to dislike about the FLX.
But will my next car be another Proton? Hmm.... hmm.gif
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preve is the star right now, a lot of attentions given. but i still skeptical as it is not proven yet

i'm interested to see the next generation saga, with the price range, it's a bargain.. really. mod a little on soundproof , suspension (spring buffer), ur bars and easily becoming better

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QUOTE(peet @ Apr 19 2012, 12:04 AM)
Maybe I should rephrase. At 45K, there is not a lot to dislike about the FLX.
But will my next car be another Proton? Hmm.... hmm.gif
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MyBi good! Slightly more than 45k nia. brows.gif

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