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 PROTON SAGA BLM, FL, FLX CLUB V22 - Live or Die

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post Apr 18 2012, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(chuck PIS @ Apr 18 2012, 09:32 PM)
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post Apr 18 2012, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(r3apers @ Apr 18 2012, 10:33 PM)
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post Apr 18 2012, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(mycerdas @ Apr 18 2012, 08:56 PM)
...Yea...buying a car also depends on luck sometimes...but if the odds of getting a problematic car is high...i would rather spend more to have a car with less risk.
Although i would like to believe that plotong car now getting better and have better odds than before.  hmm.gif

hmm...dont understand no.4?
But about no.8 ...If they give lifetime warranty because the quality very good is better than lifetime warranty because the quality soo poor.....id rather not going back and forth to fix the power window.

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Yup, buying ANY locally assembled car below RM200k wld hv yu depending on YOUR luck!!
Juz browse arnd as many car forums & use Google...yu'd b surprised at the no. of faults (even serious ones) of the many makes/models of cars yu hv been led 2believe are "good/reliable"??? tongue.gif

NB. Dun 4get those ppl paid abt DOUBLE or more wat we pay for a Saga!! rclxm9.gif

No 4? The plastic engine cover has been deemed not a necessity. So it's more of a beautifying & "dust collecting" item.
Cld hv been put there 2play a minor role in protecting Saga's COP sys? Was only put in BLMs & FLs.

Power windows probs were NOT that widespread as "fanned" by Proton bashers.
My ole Proton had NO probs for 20+ yrs!! thumbup.gif

ps. One pays min RM10k less than Proton's nearest rival. So small inconveniences are tolerable & acceptable...not that every Proton car has them!
Eg My (new) FL is 1yr old now...& (touch wood!), me am happy with it!!

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QUOTE(r3apers @ Apr 18 2012, 05:01 PM)
u going?
For me i driving Saga FL, so far so good, but still got some minor complaint... for FLX exec u need to wait dares, V12k, ibnuasad, Jackalv2, huzaifa136, number92, iXora.ix and others which they all driving FLX~!
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my car piang already... still in workshop... havent driven it for quite some time =(
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QUOTE(Jackalv2 @ Apr 18 2012, 09:41 PM)
my car piang already... still in workshop... havent driven it for quite some time =(
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post Apr 18 2012, 09:45 PM

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i got post in v21..... u skipped reading my post.... =( comes with pics also
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QUOTE(mycerdas @ Apr 18 2012, 08:56 PM)

Yea...buying a car also depends on luck sometimes...but if the odds of getting a problematic car is high...i would rather spend more to have a car with less risk.
Although i would like to believe that plotong car now getting better and have better odds than before.  hmm.gif
Owh yaa...didnt really notice that until you point that out... the aircond is really cool when Im in my friend BLM  nod.gif

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Just remember this, you're buying a sub RM 50k car. If there is problem, and there will be, remember how much you paid for it.

It's not a bad car, every car have problems. Difference is, you buy a 50k car, you may have many RM200 problem. You buy a RM 100k car, you may have fewer problems, but each of them costs RM 1,000, and you pay higher installment amount.

I'm saying this because I don't want you to come back here and say "My car masuk SC, damn you for saying Proton Saga is a good car!!!"
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QUOTE(Jackalv2 @ Apr 18 2012, 09:41 PM)
my car piang already... still in workshop... havent driven it for quite some time =(
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The motorbike story one?
Wow! So long huh?

My fren's car (BLM) replaced driver's side door (same as yrs) & same side fender plus knock bonnet & re-spray metallic paint, took ONLY 3 days!! tongue.gif

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ohh..okok remember liao... the motorcyle...lucky zeone mention motorcycle..if not really paiseh didnt read Jack post...

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insurance claim things... duno la. tomorow call the proton fella and call the insurance fella, what is the status... these few days a bit busy...
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post Apr 18 2012, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(Jackalv2 @ Apr 18 2012, 09:45 PM)
i got post in v21..... u skipped reading my post.... =( comes with pics also
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Hows your car? any problem with insurance claim?
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unknown... havent followed up with the proton and insurance persons yet... tomorrow only call them....
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QUOTE(Jackalv2 @ Apr 18 2012, 09:49 PM)
insurance claim things... duno la. tomorow call the proton fella and call the insurance fella, what is the status... these few days a bit busy...
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QUOTE(Jackalv2 @ Apr 18 2012, 09:53 PM)
unknown... havent followed up with the proton and insurance persons yet... tomorrow only call them....
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Apr 18 2012, 09:30 PM)
Guess what, I'm currently driving a 16 years old ISWAGA also. Let me explain why you heard NOTHING from your ISWAGA drumbrake! Because your father's old school mechanic already tighten the brake bank range(if you notice you pull less handbrake to stop your ISWAGA compare to your FL). There is a series of gears at the opposite site of your drumbrake hub, to adjust the brake bank distance. To adjust the brake shoe closer to the brake hub can MINIMIZE such "grek/gruk" sound. How to check whether your drum shoe have enough free space... well... blush.gif  sorry only olskool knowledge available(consider my age and driving/fixing/racing/fishing experience). Jack up your car, release your hand brake and spin your wheels with bear hand. If you feel no resistance besides of the tire weight, meaning your brake shoes are totally off the hub, your wheel will continue spinning for a very long time until the momentum gone. Normally an old school mechanic will adjust the brake until you spin it, only it move. If you take stop spinning, it will stop in a shortwhile, normally within 1 round cycle(2 round is GOOD, but seldom mechanic spend so much time to adjust until so accurate for you). Get what I mean so far? icon_idea.gif

Again, another olskol stuff to try out. Now, get your girlfriend(*can be anyone la, but will look embarrassing) to bring a mob, go to your rim and start poking the hub whilst you're INSIDE the car with all windows closed. You'll probably hear muffled metal pinging OUTSIDE the vehicle. But if you do the same thing to your BLM/FL/FLX, it felt like somebody is using a metal stick smashing your car!  doh.gif So, I guess now you have pretty much idea on how tough ISWAGA is.

You may try to get somebody to slam your brake whilst you're outside at the backwheel listen to the drum beat, again I doubt you can hear much from your ISWAGA because the brakepad already lekat at the drum. So, I guess its very safe to said(if we're talking about the same sound created by the same stuff), the brake engage/release sound is very normal.

Hope this help icon_rolleyes.gif

p/s: 1 more thing, you dont hear it much in the afternoon because the brake pad already heated up  thumbup.gif
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Great information !!!! thumbup.gif so as a conclusion, can I send my FL to Proton SC and ask the mechanic to adjust the brake bank range? i mean it is better to reduce the grek/gruk sound than leaving it like that laugh.gif For the 2 stuff you mentioned, I will find one day to try it out hehehe

Yeah..normally after driving awhile for example after speeding on MAX highway, the grek/grund sound is very very minimal..only during morning when I want to go to work, trying to reach the 1st traffic light at my house area by slowing down my car,that is the time when the brake sound come it loudly:sweat:
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QUOTE(Jackalv2 @ Apr 18 2012, 09:53 PM)
unknown... havent followed up with the proton and insurance persons yet... tomorrow only call them....
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Btw fyi my fren's BLM repairs cost <RM1300...new door & new fender + knocking bonnet & respray all those parts.

Did so w/o claim insurance cos oledi 55% NCD.
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QUOTE(mycerdas @ Apr 18 2012, 08:56 PM)

Wow...nice info  rclxms.gif

hmm...dont understand no.4?
But about no.8 ...If they give lifetime warranty because the quality very good is better than lifetime warranty because the quality soo poor.....id rather not going back and forth to fix the power window.

Anyway....great list there ...it sure helps a lot  thumbup.gif

Btw...what is the interest rate for local car?
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shakehead.gif i tot i ask you dun buy? shakehead.gif

Anyway, the photo was from 1 of our LYN forumer, he survived the crash but came back and barsh about GAGA, just like ERIC. Look closely to how many pillars of divider has been brought down by the car, ended up hit a tiang and flipped over, and the guy still able to come back and post in forum? You to judge his speed during the event.

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ABANZA also can not tahan ar? shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Apr 18 2012, 10:04 PM)
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shakehead.gif  i tot i ask you dun buy?  shakehead.gif

Anyway, the photo was from 1 of our LYN forumer, he survived the crash but came back and barsh about GAGA, just like ERIC. Look closely to how many pillars of divider has been brought down by the car, ended up hit a tiang and flipped over, and the guy still able to come back and post in forum? You to judge his speed during the event.

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ABANZA also can not tahan ar? shakehead.gif
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GAGA STRONG LIKE A SPONGE~!

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