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alien9
post Jun 4 2012, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(mhisyam6 @ Jun 4 2012, 10:30 AM)
I'm always using 5kg dumbell (medium weight??) for 20 reps but I don't want to increase my muscle size but just want to tighten the muscle only. I also doing it fast. So my training is wrong?
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what do you mean by 'tighten' your muscle?
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post Jun 5 2012, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(mhisyam6 @ Jun 5 2012, 08:50 AM)
I don't want flabby muscle or big muscle. I just want to look tuff and fit only. If I grow more muscle, I will look shorter since my waist 33 height 169cm weight 72kg.. My weight is not normal and I exceed the normal BMI..  cry.gif
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You wont look like Arnold even if you train for 5 years, so you should not be afraid of growing huge muscle. There is no flabby muscle but maybe what you are trying to say is muscle lack of definition, like the strongfat build. If you want more definition, you have to trim the fat. That's all.

Ditch the BMI. It is not a very good indicator of anything.


Added on June 5, 2012, 1:57 pm
QUOTE(aaronpang @ Jun 5 2012, 01:36 PM)
Cool thank you Mike...  thumbup.gif Olympic weights WOULD work on standard bars albeit dangerous. 

Was quoted RM395 for a 7ft Olympic Barbell.
I'm a newbie at trying to build muscles, start with smaller weights to minimize the risk of injury or death  shocking.gif

Do you believe a power rack is must have in the foreseeable future?
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Dude, RM 395 for a 7ft Olympic Barbell? Where do you get that?

Power Rack is a must. I start to change my gym after my squat reach 70lbs because my old gym didn't have any squat rack but they have the dip chair so it become a bad replacement for power rack

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post Jun 5 2012, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(adix4 @ Jun 5 2012, 09:44 AM)
hello guys, did you know where i can find captain crush grippers

or any GOOD hand grippers, most fitness store that i went to tak jual or jual like for the kids punya

apparently this guy selling it http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/852781/all dah lama tak online or maybe tak jual

any ideas where i can find one around Malaysia? kalau tak ada looks like have to buy online lah sad.gif
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If you really want the crush gripper, I suggest you to buy the adjustable one where you can select the force from 5kg to XX kg depending on the gripper. Where can you get it? I don't know. You have to search for it.
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post Jun 5 2012, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(mhisyam6 @ Jun 5 2012, 02:50 PM)
so, no need to refer BMI meh? I just need to sweat a lot and do work out as usual?
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Yeah, ditch the BMI. Ronnie Coleman will be in 46.0 value which is very very very obese with his height and weigh so you see how BMI is not a good indicator of your health.

Pick the best routine for you, pick the best diet for you.
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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Jun 5 2012, 08:42 PM)
if your milo powder is harden do you throw it away?
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+1 for great logic
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post Jun 6 2012, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(aaronpang @ Jun 6 2012, 10:51 AM)
Confirm the price for 7ft 20kg Olympic bar is RM395 from Fitness Concept IOI...

Decided to pull the trigger and invest in the Olympic bar...
Yup I've researched DIY racks online.

Inquired with shops that make window grills, they're are asking RM1.7k for hollow steel (window grills) and more for solid wrought iron.

Need power tools to drill out holes and cut. DIY wooden tent for my garden, collapsed spectacularly after a night of heavy downpour  sweat.gif Dunwan to bet my life on Kemahiran Hidup skills from secondary school.
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BTW besides the Olympic barbells and Power Cage, what type of bench do I look out for?

Any specific width, padding and configuration (flat, incline, etc)?
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Did you ask how much weight can the barbell hold before it start to bend? The price is tempting but if it start to bend on 200lbs mark, that would be useless.

If you didn't have the skill. I would suggest that you ask the expert to make you a squat rack. At least it can support 500lbs weight for future use.
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QUOTE(pedro @ Jun 6 2012, 11:57 AM)
I used one of those bars before in my friend's home gym,they are absolutely fine up to his max deadlift @ 450lbs.

Only noticeable difference is that the knurling where you place you hands is much rougher,but that will smoothen out after some time.
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Wow, that is very good. So, RM 395 for an Olympic Barbell. Do you know the price of the weight plates? Not with the rubber but all metal.
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QUOTE(pedro @ Jun 6 2012, 09:11 AM)
I do remember him. When he started to gain weight, I'm quite sceptical as well, an obese person wouldn't be able to do a single pull up but he managed to do 20 when he is somewhere middle of his fit to fat journey. But after reading the CNN news, he do need to do knee push up just to do a push up, yeah he do manage to 'feel' what obese people felt
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QUOTE(aaronpang @ Jun 6 2012, 02:48 PM)
Good tip, I wasn't aware bench have load rating...  hmm.gif TQ!

Will definitely inquire about the load capacity of benches.

BTW correct to assume load include both user + weight lifted? Currently this user weight's 110kg.
Didn't ask how much it can support, will inquire this coming weekend. Hopefully didn't make a mistake  shocking.gif
Got the price for the following Ivanko plates, they're rubberized.

I can help get a quote and check stock for bare metal plates, what's the plate KG's and quantity?

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Ivanko Weights
20kg RM264
15kg RM198
10kg RM132
5kg RM66
2.5kg RM33

Did notice 10kg metal plates (non-olympic) go for around RM112. Could be off by a few dollars because didn't write it down.
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You do need to have a bench with good load rating. If the bench only support 200kg, anymore than that would be dangerous for you.

Thanks aaronpang. Do the weight plates comes in lbs? More prefer lbs than kg, solid metal than rubberised. Can you help me quote for this item:

1 Olympic Barbell
2x2.5lbs
2x5lbs
4x10lbs
2x25lbs
2x35lbs
6x45lbs
total of 445lbs/202kg
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QUOTE(DT1 @ Jun 6 2012, 09:38 PM)
Hi guys, not sure if this is the right place to ask.

I'm new to strength training, and my first set was on Monday, made up of a pull down (underhand, narrow grip), and machine overhead press.

I've a bench press session scheduled for tomorrow, but I'm still abit sore from the first workout, should I wait for one more day, or just proceed?

By the way, the actual target muscle groups aren't sore, just the surrounding muscles:  triceps (long head), and teres minor or major. Refer to top right corner of this image: http://www.workout-without-weights.net/wp-...cle-Diagram.jpg
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Just train. It is normal for you to experience muscle pain. It happened because you never 'use' your muscle unless...
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QUOTE(DT1 @ Jun 6 2012, 09:44 PM)
Thanks alien. I'm asking from the point of view of optimum recovery and resulting growth. Should I wait for one more day of recovery or it doesn't matter.
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Just continue. Since you are new, DOMS will happened and will happen for longer period of time (2-3 days). Usually more experienced people will have different muscle group exercises alternately. Example, Monday - Chest and Biceps, Tuesday - Leg, Wednesday - Rest, Thursday - Back and Shoulder. This kind of routine will let your muscle heal but you still able to work the other muscle group.

Btw, are you going to train you upper body ONLY?
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QUOTE(raynx @ Jun 6 2012, 09:52 PM)
I use the pads. No need to call it 'sissy'.

Yes it makes stabilizing the bar slightly more challenging but at least it prevents the bar from hurt my skin while squatting 80kg for a 'sissy' girl like me
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Well, since you are a gurl, it is quite ok to use the pad but still it is a sissy pad. No offence. If you do care for your skin, you ain't going far with your squat; albeit 80kg is still impressive for a gurl. That pad will hamper your progress with heavier weight.
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QUOTE(raynx @ Jun 6 2012, 09:58 PM)
you speaking from experience squatting 150% of your bodyweight?
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I speak of an experience of a weightlifter who squat 1100% of her bodyweight.


Added on June 6, 2012, 10:04 pmMe? I only managed to squat 250lbs for 5x5 and deadlift for 250lbs for 1x2.

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Jun 6 2012, 10:02 PM)
If i use the padded bar, please call me Sissy too in front of me.
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Why would you want to use it darklight?
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QUOTE(raynx @ Jun 6 2012, 10:07 PM)
I would love to see you squat 550kg WITHOUT the pad. pls post video for proof
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my 5RM squat is 220lbs but I can do it for 5 sets and that would make my 1RM of 280lbs. My weight is 200lbs which mean that my 1RM is 140% of my bodyweight. Never tested my real 1RM and never will because my gym doesn't have squat rack.

Don't want to pick any fight with you but a girl squatting 80kg is impressive but that pad will make you harder to stabilize the weight and the heavier the weight, the harder it is to stabilize the bar.
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QUOTE(raynx @ Jun 6 2012, 10:25 PM)
pfft... i hacksquat 240lbs 4x6

the whole point of this conversation is, use or DONT use whatever u want. Doesnt give u the right to call others sissies just because ur opinion differs!
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Well, I do entitle to my opinion am I right? So do you.
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QUOTE(razorboy @ Jun 6 2012, 10:13 PM)
Once again, same thing as straps, using these additional tools don't make one LESS HARDCORE. It's a pad. Some people use it, some people don't. Girl or no girl if some one wants to use padding, it's their choice. I'm not used to front squatting the weight I back squat, so if I do front squat, I'd probably use some sort of padding too cuz my front delts would hurt like hell if I load the bar up. However, dan wouldn't need any padding cuz he is used to it.

So in your opinion, to be all bodybuilding and shit, one must not use anything other than free weights and chalk and shit? Then go ahead and call us all sissies, cuz we all use some sort of accessories and machinery one way or another.
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I never say anything about being hardcore or not. I'm using machines as well. Never said anything about free weight no straps all the way. I never know what is the pad, and Mehdi, being the first person who 'teaches' me weightlifitng from Stronglifts called the pad as sissy pad. You all can refer to this article. http://stronglifts.com/squats-sissy-bar-pad-exercise/

p.s: I never intend to start a flame war or hurt any forumers feeling.
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QUOTE(justin_5 @ Jun 6 2012, 10:47 PM)
just stop posting a reply about the pad then everyone will forget bout it...

btw... did u post ur pic in progress pics? curious of ur shape bro...
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that would be the last post doh.gif

Progress pic huh? Well, I only managed to progress for 2 months because the previous 9 months I didn't have any 'real' progression; because of sucky diet. Will post maybe around September thou, hopefully.
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QUOTE(mikehuan @ Jun 7 2012, 12:23 AM)
what? did you add an additional 0 there or somethin lol.
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My bad there. Her total lift on the big three is 11 times of her bodyweight which is 1100%.
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QUOTE(mikehuan @ Jun 7 2012, 01:30 PM)
Why not just do a bench press?

And alien, i have no friggin idea what youre talking about.
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Google Laura Phelps of Westside Barbell. The current strongest women powerlifter.

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