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post Jun 15 2012, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(VincentChen @ Jun 15 2012, 12:31 PM)
i find them to be uncomfortable also, because it limits my range of motion, my back is so taxing when im at the bottom of the squat, but i cant do normal squat because i dont have a partner/ spotter with me  sweat.gif anyway, thx man, now i feels good squatting at smith machine smile.gif
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erm, why do you need a spotter for squats? if you have a squat rack or power rack you should be able to do it solo. in fact, if you HAD a spotter/partner but no squat rack i wouldnt recommend you do squats lol.

QUOTE(theCrab @ Jun 15 2012, 12:31 PM)
I just try out a week
but if you're talking bout pressing movement.its fine actually . i use it for shoulder press .
but i ditch them when comes to dumbell row cause my aim is build a bigger phyisque,aesthetic is my main priority
I use it time to time.seriously go grab a pair and try it for your deadlift
dont be upset cause for the 1st few weeks you sure cant lift heavy with your current poundages but once your grip catch up it should be no problem
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imo fat gripz is kinda a double edged sword.
benefits: you get a great grip, more forearm stimulation
cons: you lift lighter, therefore you dont get a 100% workout for the muscle part you're targeting in the first place.

why train your forearms while doing other lifts when you could isolate them in the first place? as you said, aesthetics are your main priority so why work on your grip?

as for deadlifts, sure it helps with grip power, though its not the -only- way. my max for raw deads has increased concurrently with my non raw ones, and i dont do any other work for forearms.
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post Jun 15 2012, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(MelForC3 @ Jun 15 2012, 01:44 PM)
I need supporter for my squat =="

yesterday i did 4 plates for squat and went to deep below, cant get up. So just left the barbell on the safety bar.. is too friggin heavy sad.gif
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do you have those leg wraps? imo with weight that heavy you're gonna need them.
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post Jun 15 2012, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(alien9 @ Jun 15 2012, 02:02 PM)
Well, if you don't have a safety or a spotter, you got 50% chance of failure. But you can do what ever you want to do.
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He has safeties.

I agree with your statement though. Explains why my bench is stagnant lol. Squats and deads are going up nicely. I think I'm gonna setup my bench on the power rack next time lol, need to figure out how to put safeties in place though hmm
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post Jun 15 2012, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(MelForC3 @ Jun 15 2012, 02:05 PM)
yes, only start using for 2nd week because kinda sked if go so heavy. Thanks to the bar or else the bar still on top of me right now.. I try to go really heavy but is not the time yet...

A bit phobia ade lol hhaha.. tongue.gif
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I phobia on average 3 to 4 times a week, haha. Especiallly lifts with no safeties. You never failed on squats before this?

God if u guys see me in a gym you would think I'm some sort of a chicken, lol.
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post Jun 15 2012, 03:13 PM

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im surprised you guys arent seeing the irony in this. Mel is soo much stronger leh wtf. who the hell here has the balls to squat 4 plates tell me, i give present.

he probably not posting deadlift numbers because hes not doing them, and his warmup would probably be my max (like chris, grrrrrrrrrrrrr)

bailed out twice on flat bench, once on smith bench (yeah, i couldnt even lock it in lol), once on squats
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post Jun 15 2012, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(razorboy @ Jun 15 2012, 03:14 PM)
4 x 5 lbs plates counted? lol
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...i was trying to find the pic where someone loaded a barbell full with 5lbs plates, zz

QUOTE(MelForC3 @ Jun 15 2012, 03:23 PM)
weh weh... everyone have their own strong point i would say.. I just try to go heavier haha.. dl hm.. i tried 4 plates lol.. 2-3 oni tongue.gif

still trying to learn..

@razorboy: what u mean by macro or split? i jz simply train hahaha...
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macro: nutrition
split: training routine

u training with competitive bb'ers right? follow them le wont really go wrong right?
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post Jun 15 2012, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(-Dan @ Jun 15 2012, 05:24 PM)
Delivered! LOL

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LOL! Thanks dan haha. Nah razor in yo face!
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post Jun 15 2012, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(-Dan @ Jun 15 2012, 09:06 PM)
Those look like 2.5kg plates, in which case it'd be 120kg with the bar total!
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....dafuq, still quite decent weight leh haha. Honestly didnt look like it...
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post Jun 16 2012, 01:56 AM

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QUOTE(ChipZ @ Jun 15 2012, 11:51 PM)
Mike, u are joining some marathons as well right? How's ur nutrition like when training for the run to prevent muscle loss?
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i joined A marathon, not some, lol. chill la, lots of people run regularly and are still able to retain muscle. just up your carbs to compensate for the extra output of energy

tbh i didnt really train for it, so nutrition was the same, no different.

however i did take BCAAs before and after the race.

i got the KOTR coming up though, 10km, should be an easy one hopefully my knees wont die on me this time.
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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jun 16 2012, 08:37 PM)
Best workout for a V shape body besides lat pulldowns? Getting tired of losing my side belly fats.
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V handle lat pulldown do very well for me.

Chin ups, pull ups, weighted if possible

Close grip bb rows
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post Jun 16 2012, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jun 16 2012, 09:21 PM)
Dont think i'm able to do pullovers due to my lower back. My spine has problems. So basically for appearances i should to close grip? Even lat pulldown, i should do close grip too? I always do wide grip.
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So dontt do pullovers. You get to choose from the other exercises what

As for thickness, nothing works better than rack pulls and deads. Wide grip does not even compare
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post Jun 20 2012, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(alien9 @ Jun 20 2012, 03:24 PM)
First of all, shoulder = deltoids.

For me, it is better if you pair a large muscle group with a small muscle group together than 2 large muscle groups in one session.
Perhaps, you can do Back and Shoulder day, A Leg day and a Chest and Arms day (both bicep and tricep).

And don't make a Leg and Cardio day. If you want to do cardio, do it either on the rest day (if you have one) or after finish your daily routine. Btw, after you train your leg, I don't think that you will still able to do cardio, unless you didn't train your leg enough.
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Delts are considered a big muscle group too. That plan was good te begin with so why change it?

You don't need to overdo the cardio. Take care of your diet and you'll see results. Nutrition is as important as training, if not more.
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QUOTE(Decky @ Jun 20 2012, 05:36 PM)
Hi guys.

I'm 179-180cm at 56kg (underweight) so I recently started my gym life like two weeks ago at Jaya 33's true fitness.

So after asking some of my bigger size friends who were well, quite buff themselves, I came up with this routine:
Tuesdays, Thursdays and Sundays with 5 reps of Squats, 3 reps of deadlifts (not too sure about this one) and 5 reps of benchpressing.
I was advised to avoid targeting the small muscle groups with machines like the biscep curl machine and work on my core first because it's bleeding weak (can't do more than 2 chin-ups D:)

On another note, my fellow skinny friend (who started at the beginning of the year and gained nearly 10kg's already) told me that I shouldn't do deadlifts and squats alone in the gym alone because he got laughed at when he started out with the bar and 5kg's, also that it's dangerous to do so without someone watching your form.
So just to check...Any improvements that can be made with my routine or am I doing it completely wrong? (better I get it right from the start haha)
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a few of the regs here are jaya33 members too, and im sure they would be happy to give you some pointers. if you ask nicely that is lol.

your buff friends are right, compounds works best especially for beginners. focus on putting poundages on them and you'll be on your way.

your skinny friend is WRONG. i started doing squats and deads approx 6 months into training, mainly because my workout buddies did not do them. i've done my own research and decided compounds are the way to go.

i started deadlifting and squats solo, and as like your friend i got laughed, i got insulted, the works. i had no one to check on my form, so i took vids and posted it here to get form checks. once my form got better, poundages increased dramatically, and my strength levels shot through the roof. i still do them solo, too.

its all in the head. if you have the will to do it you'll find a way.
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post Jun 21 2012, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(-Aktan- @ Jun 21 2012, 05:51 PM)
Hello guys, how do you guys think about this workout? No lifting weight no equipment, is this suitable for people for wants to grow bigger in size?

http://www.beachbody.com/product/fitness_p...ams/insanity.do

The secret to these mind-blowing INSANITY workout results: MAX Interval Training.  Shaun T took traditional interval training and flipped it on its head—you perform long bursts of maximum-intensity exercises with short periods of rest. Each INSANITY workout keeps you constantly challenged as you alternate between aerobic and anaerobic intervals performed at your MAX. The result: burn up to 1,000 calories in an hour and get the most insane body in 60 days.
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looks like a fun way to workout.

but understand the fundamentals before you try it out.

if you burn 1000 cals per hour in that workout, but eat 1000 cals above maintenance level for your body, you still aint gonna lose weight. get it? diet is AS important as your workout.
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QUOTE(-Dan @ Jun 21 2012, 06:32 PM)
Bloody hell. Have any of you ever had a lat strain? And have you ever had it caused by training legs? Because I have... twice. Both times this strain has come up is right after leg day. I'm suspecting front squats but I'm thinking "Wtf, how?!". This is irritating. shakehead.gif  mad.gif
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Should be front squats man, your lats are bracing the weight on the way down me thinks. Add that to speed movements and its possible

I'm having a lat strain now too zz, left shoulder blade. Thinking its db rows but can't be sure. Last few reps were in terrible form
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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jun 21 2012, 08:57 PM)
Anyways, how do you guys normally workout? Let's just say today is biceps, back and abs. Do you workout like #1 Bicep Exercise, #2 Bicep Exercise, #3 Bicep Exercise then #1 Back #2 Back #3 Back then #1 Abs #2 Abs #3 Abs OR in a circuit way, for example #1 Bicep #1 Back #1 Abs then #2 Bicep #2 Back #3 Abs and so on? Just curious smile.gif #1,2,3 states the type of exercises.
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For me, if two big muscle groups, alternate them first before doing any smaller muscle groups

If one big group and one small, big muscle groups first, not alternating.
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QUOTE(Decky @ Jun 21 2012, 10:41 PM)
Idk too. Well he's short, really short compared to the average 18y/o teen so perhaps he looked weak for the weights. Or maybe it was the fact that the bar nearly fell from the safety pins when we were trying to get the sticky side unstucked from the rack. Her reasoning was simply that we should build more muscles at a machine before attempting the squats, and that the people around us were concerned for our safety (My friends back was straight, no sign of trembling or anything, just regular squats). I honestly don't know lol. I know this old uncle beside us wanting to do his benchpress was starring, but I don't know if anyone else was. I did my set without any unwanted attention though, since I did it with only 25lbs on each side.

But then again, seeing a skinny tall dude and a short normal dude doing squats together might give you the impression that we're a bunch of kids not knowing about what we're doing..
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Jaya 33 gym? That place is decent and as far as i know there are no rules against heavy lifting. I did a deadlift pr there once before and no one made a squeak.
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post Jun 22 2012, 10:25 AM

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Beast in action! Damn man that's some hardcore weight
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post Jun 25 2012, 02:17 AM

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yea i kinda have a kink about squats, the weight you squat is very, very subjective.

what you can half squat, or even parallel squat is way different then what you can squat ATG, for example.

if anyone would to say what poundages they squat in a forum they best prepared to back it up when someone calls for it.

i only say this because in the whole time i've been weight training, i can count with ONE hand the number of people who squatted parrallel or ATG
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QUOTE(Ibrahimovic @ Jun 26 2012, 11:32 PM)
I always wanted to record myself! but I only own a cheap Nokia 'call and sms' only phone...

I never understand the word 'rounded back', so correct me if Im wrong,

='rounded back' is the shape of the back when someone is bending forward touching his foot (no contraction but streching of the back). 
='tight' is the shape when we tried to sit straight (chest move back, hips go in front)

I tried google for definition but I failed at it and I cant ask people at gym as even the trainer/member as most do 'suka hati' (partial squat, partial bench, 500xsitup, curl non-stop..)
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Its kinda hard to describe, but if its rounded you can feel it. Its like, your body is going up but the bar is not following at the same pace, get it?
You would also feel your chest kinda caves in as well.

Usually i let go of the bar when i get that feel. Thats how i judge if its too heavy for me.

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