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 Bodybuilding Thread V11, Bodybuilding Q&A

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janson_kaniaz
post Apr 26 2012, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(Dagger69 @ Apr 26 2012, 10:50 PM)
No offense but since when push up is not a body building exercise?
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how far can u go with push-ups really, muscle-building wise?
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post Apr 26 2012, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Apr 26 2012, 11:03 PM)
how far can u go with push-ups really, muscle-building wise?
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True but one cannot deny push up is not a muscle building exercise whether it will be very effective or not, am I right?


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QUOTE(razorboy @ Apr 26 2012, 10:57 PM)
Cuz once u start deviating into two fingered push ups and push up with weights, eventually we will move into calisthenics which actually has its own thread http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1985666 smile.gif
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Yeap calisthenics. Side track a couple of posts wont hurt i guess. Thanks. biggrin.gif

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post Apr 26 2012, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(Dagger69 @ Apr 26 2012, 11:05 PM)
True but one cannot deny push up is not a muscle building exercise whether it will be very effective or not, am I right?


Added on April 26, 2012, 11:06 pm

Yeap calisthenics. Side track a couple of posts wont hurt i guess. Thanks.  biggrin.gif
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I guess jerking off can also be a muscle building exercise for your arms , shoulders , lats, upper back. HOLY MOTHER OF GOD, I FOUND A NEW COMPOUND MOVEMENT. But I guess one cannot deny jerking of is not a muscle building exercise whether it will be very effective or not

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post Apr 26 2012, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(WiLeKiyO @ Apr 26 2012, 09:44 PM)
I only workout at home, too shy go to gym because I'm thin,( 175cm, 56kg).
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my friend only 50kg when he hit the gym and only 170 cm. why do you need to feel shy to go gym ?
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post Apr 26 2012, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(razorboy @ Apr 26 2012, 11:11 PM)
I guess jerking off can also be a muscle building exercise for your arms , shoulders , lats, upper back. HOLY MOTHER OF GOD, I FOUND A NEW COMPOUND MOVEMENT. But I guess one cannot deny jerking of is not a muscle building exercise whether it will be very effective or not
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Its a BB thread. I guess we shall stop here. Thanks for the replies.
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post Apr 26 2012, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(kaolen @ Apr 26 2012, 11:13 PM)
my friend only 50kg when he hit the gym and only 170 cm. why do you need to feel shy to go gym ?
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It feels like I'm naked and all of my friends laughing at me instead of motivate me. "Hey look ! A skinny guy try to carry a dumbbell !"
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post Apr 26 2012, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(mikehuan @ Apr 26 2012, 10:44 PM)
Wtf why are u guys talking about push ups here, of all things? Okay I might sound elitist here but COME ON this is the bb thread!
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QUOTE(razorboy @ Apr 26 2012, 10:57 PM)
Cuz once u start deviating into two fingered push ups and push up with weights, eventually we will move into calisthenics which actually has its own thread http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1985666 smile.gif
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Sorry guys, didn't mean to deviate this thread. Thought it was ok thou. Hahaha
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post Apr 26 2012, 11:40 PM

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Dude, I was 50-odd kilos when I started out. Just get over it and get into a gym, eat right, rest well and you'll be the one laughing when you look better than them.

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QUOTE(WiLeKiyO @ Apr 26 2012, 11:26 PM)
It feels like I'm naked and all of my friends laughing at me instead of motivate me. "Hey look ! A skinny guy try to carry a dumbbell !"
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Man, you should suck up and be a man. Show them what you really can do. Maybe you are skinny but if you are really motivated, you can change your physique.
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can i know what kind of workout must i do to maintain fit... i dont want to get a big muscle... what i mean the one look like athlete


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post Apr 27 2012, 12:19 AM

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QUOTE(WiLeKiyO @ Apr 26 2012, 11:26 PM)
It feels like I'm naked and all of my friends laughing at me instead of motivate me. "Hey look ! A skinny guy try to carry a dumbbell !"
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Regardless how much you weigh, or how you look like, actions talks louder. Get to a gym, put on your headphones, and do your shit. You're gonna get respect from the other guys.

And if you don't, screw em. Even if its your friends.

QUOTE(undentifyxd @ Apr 26 2012, 11:48 PM)
can i know what kind of workout must i do to maintain fit... i dont want to get a big muscle... what i mean the one look like athlete
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Weighted jerk off. Hang weight plates on your wrists and jerk off.

Man I miss DL. Where's the fella when you need him lol
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QUOTE(undentifyxd @ Apr 26 2012, 11:48 PM)
can i know what kind of workout must i do to maintain fit... i dont want to get a big muscle... what i mean the one look like athlete
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Don't lift any weights. Even coming within a 5 mile radius of a gym will cause your testosterone levels to rise over 9000 units and you will turn into the hulk.
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QUOTE(-Dan @ Apr 27 2012, 01:21 AM)
Don't lift any weights. Even coming within a 5 mile radius of a gym will cause your testosterone levels to rise over 9000 units and you will turn into the hulk.
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post Apr 27 2012, 06:36 AM

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QUOTE(undentifyxd @ Apr 26 2012, 11:48 PM)
can i know what kind of workout must i do to maintain fit... i dont want to get a big muscle... what i mean the one look like athlete
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this is like asking: hey what r the tricks to bcome rich, I don't want to b billionaire, just millionaire will do...
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The past 2 weeks I screwed up my macros ie. eat lotsa carbs/fats/junks... surprisingly.. i lose fat %. Maybe I've found my sweet spot...

Or maybe i went diving and that burnt the fats up.

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QUOTE(chastise @ Apr 27 2012, 12:10 PM)
The past 2 weeks I screwed up my macros ie. eat lotsa carbs/fats/junks... surprisingly.. i lose fat %. Maybe I've found my sweet spot...

Or maybe i went diving and that burnt the fats up.
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sometimes, the more i cheat, the more i lose, the way the body works is funny sometimes...
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QUOTE(janson_kaniaz @ Apr 26 2012, 11:03 PM)
how far can u go with push-ups really, muscle-building wise?
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Not true, you can do one-handed push ups.

You can work up to a really really good strength level with just BW exercises alone - many of which are harder than weights.

Just to clarify, I lift weights because I like it. But I also climb with several hardcore climbers and they beat me pound for pound strengthwise.

Pull ups, BTN Pull up, muscle up, one-handed pull up, flags, pistol squats - all are not easy at all.

But you probably won't get ripped from em unless you have really great genes.

Yeah I forgot - handstand pushups too are a killer......

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QUOTE(DJJD @ Apr 27 2012, 01:38 PM)
Not true, you can do one-handed push ups.

You can work up to a really really good strength level with just BW exercises alone - many of which are harder than weights.

Just to clarify, I lift weights because I like it. But I also climb with several hardcore climbers and they beat me pound for pound strengthwise.

Pull ups, BTN Pull up, muscle up, one-handed pull up, flags, pistol squats - all are not easy at all.

But you probably won't get ripped from em unless you have really great genes.

Yeah I forgot - handstand pushups too are a killer......
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Calisthenics thread >> that way.

This has been argued over and over again, so lets not go there
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QUOTE(DJJD @ Apr 27 2012, 01:38 PM)
Not true, you can do one-handed push ups.

You can work up to a really really good strength level with just BW exercises alone - many of which are harder than weights.

Just to clarify, I lift weights because I like it. But I also climb with several hardcore climbers and they beat me pound for pound strengthwise.

Pull ups, BTN Pull up, muscle up, one-handed pull up, flags, pistol squats - all are not easy at all.

But you probably won't get ripped from em unless you have really great genes.

Yeah I forgot - handstand pushups too are a killer......
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Your points are all true, but out of context since he said in terms of building muscle not in terms of the feats you can perform. When in comes to muscle hypertrophy, you can only get so far with bodyweight exercises because you can only load the muscles with your own weight, and after that point, unless you get heavier, you're not going to be able to progressively overload the muscles.
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Agree with you on hypertrophy. Weights are always gonna be more efficient and have trackable progress.

But for someone who doesn't want to pay for a gym, assuming they are disciplined enough can build a reasonable amount of muscle with no weights. Check out the "ghetto workouts" video on youtube.

Assume handstand pushup for someone at 70kgs. assuming you do one, that is more or less a 160lb military press - which is a lot of weight! While progressive overload can be done by increasing reps not just weight.

There is a limit though I agree.

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