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English Clubs Liverpool FC- The Kop Talk 2012, Liverpool 2-1 Everton- FA CUP FINAL NEXT

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Rotuham
post Apr 13 2012, 03:27 PM

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=playe...d&v=nzRAQS6UIVA

Exclusive YouTube-only track recorded by Liverpool rapper and Everton fan Jamie Broad and filmed and edited by LFC TV ahead of the first all-Merseyside Wembley clash since 1989

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QUOTE(Petre @ Apr 13 2012, 04:50 PM)


Exclusive YouTube-only track recorded by Liverpool rapper and Everton fan Jamie Broad and filmed and edited by LFC TV ahead of the first all-Merseyside Wembley clash since 1989
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QUOTE(Burningsunz @ Apr 13 2012, 05:12 PM)
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then erm follow the link instead. cheers smile.gif
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Exclusive YouTube-only track recorded by Liverpool rapper and Everton fan Jamie Broad and filmed and edited by LFC TV ahead of the first all-Merseyside Wembley clash since 1989
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fixed

you only need to add the code from the youtube links .

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Johan Cruyff as Director of Football? Interesting prospect indeed. What can be bring to Liverpool? Well the Dutch were the inventors of Total Football and Cruyff was one of the most famous exponents of this philosophy that was introduced by Rinus Michels. In short...

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It is a system where a player who moves out of his position is replaced by another from his team, thus allowing the team to retain their intended organizational structure. In this fluid system, no footballer is fixed in their intended outfield role; anyone can be successively an attacker, a midfielder and a defender. The style was honed by Ajax coach Rinus Michels around the time Cruyff came to prominence.


Also, Ajax has one of the best youth academies in the world, De Toekomst (which translates as 'the future') academy. Here's a short video. http://www.uefa.com/trainingground/grassro...id=1562470.html

Thirdly, a name as big as Johan Cruyff, we will surely attract some of the best players from around the globe.

The thing is, there isn't a specific job scope for the role. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Director_of_football

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Apr 13 2012, 05:36 PM)
Johan Cruyff as Director of Football? Interesting prospect indeed. What can be bring to Liverpool? Well the Dutch were the inventors of Total Football and Cruyff was one of the most famous exponents of this philosophy that was introduced by Rinus Michels. In short...
Also, Ajax has one of the best youth academies in the world, De Toekomst (which translates as 'the future') academy. Here's a short video. http://www.uefa.com/trainingground/grassro...id=1562470.html

Thirdly, a name as big as Johan Cruyff, we will surely attract some of the best players from around the globe.

The thing is, there isn't a specific job scope for the role. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Director_of_football
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Exactly.

He implemented the system that Barcelona are currently having. I think he revamped the whole la masia academy and after about 20 years, we are finally seeing the results. Xavi, Iniesta, Messi, Pique, Tello, Cuenca, Pedro, Valdes, Puyol, Reina, Fabregas, Arteta and Thiago are some of them who benefit from it.

I know 20 years is long for any of us to see those results in Liverpool but the job at Melwood already started under Rafa.

A man like Johan Cruyff would bring alot of good things but even if he doesn't come, it's not a problem.
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QUOTE(Adryan @ Apr 13 2012, 06:09 PM)
Exactly.

He implemented the system that Barcelona are currently having. I think he revamped the whole la masia academy and after about 20 years, we are finally seeing the results. Xavi, Iniesta, Messi, Pique, Tello, Cuenca, Pedro, Valdes, Puyol, Reina, Fabregas, Arteta and Thiago are some of them who benefit from it.

I know 20 years is long for any of us to see those results in Liverpool but the job at Melwood already started under Rafa.

A man like Johan Cruyff would bring alot of good things but even if he doesn't come, it's not a problem.
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I hope we are still alive in 20years time.I know i will biggrin.gif
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Jumping the gun I suspect but I'm excited at the prospect of he and Kenny working together. Total Football was all about movement and players covering for one another, and Kenny gives his players a lot of freedom, necessary for pass and move football. An integration of both philosophies is a mouth watering prospect indeed.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Apr 13 2012, 05:36 PM)
Johan Cruyff as Director of Football? Interesting prospect indeed. What can be bring to Liverpool? Well the Dutch were the inventors of Total Football and Cruyff was one of the most famous exponents of this philosophy that was introduced by Rinus Michels. In short...
Also, Ajax has one of the best youth academies in the world, De Toekomst (which translates as 'the future') academy. Here's a short video. http://www.uefa.com/trainingground/grassro...id=1562470.html

Thirdly, a name as big as Johan Cruyff, we will surely attract some of the best players from around the globe.

The thing is, there isn't a specific job scope for the role. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Director_of_football
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It's worth noting that the changes he made at Barca and Ajax recently, saw both clubs going back to their roots. Like Guardiola managing Barca and Ajax having the likes of De Boer and Berkamp revitalizing their team and its Academy. He has strong belief that clubs should find its aspiration through its own culture and people.

It will be interesting how such philosophy be implemented in a club such as ours.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Apr 13 2012, 06:31 PM)
Jumping the gun I suspect but I'm excited at the prospect of he and Kenny working together. Total Football was all about movement and players covering for one another, and Kenny gives his players a lot of freedom, necessary for pass and move football. An integration of both philosophies is a mouth watering prospect indeed.
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If i am not mistaken tiki-taka had some influence from liverpool's pass and move right?

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QUOTE(Rotuham @ Apr 13 2012, 06:31 PM)
I hope we are still alive in 20years time.I know i will biggrin.gif
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But I don't think we'd want to see Liverpool not win a league title for another 20 years!!


QUOTE(Rotuham @ Apr 13 2012, 06:35 PM)
If i am not mistaken tiki-taka had some influence from liverpool's pass and move right?
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Noooooooo .. Johan Cruyff got the tiki-taka idea when he watched the Liverpool teams of the 1970s to 1980s!!! tongue.gif
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Well the liverpool's pass and move is not all that different really. The objective is the same - to be dominate in possession and to move the ball around as fluid as possible. When Shankly's team lost to Ajax, he decided to tweak our style of football to more continental style.

The tiki-taka tho is pretty much a tweaked version of the football Cruyff brought to Barca - which back then was a tweaked version of Rinus's total football.

If you look at the way total football works and how it perceive talents, in theory it can work wonderfully with the concept of moneyball. For instance, most clubs in England would fail to value a talent like Messi because they would say he doesnt have the physique and quality to endure the intensity of the premier league. But Barca kept him and gave him all the medical support he needed to flourish and flourish he did and still does.
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There's a tweet. Cryuff has agreed the deal in principle.
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QUOTE(hfi @ Apr 13 2012, 07:01 PM)
Well the liverpool's pass and move is not all that different really. The objective is the same - to be dominate in possession and to move the ball around as fluid as possible. When Shankly's team lost to Ajax, he decided to tweak our style of football to more continental style.

The tiki-taka tho is pretty much a tweaked version of the football Cruyff brought to Barca - which back then was a tweaked version of Rinus's total football.

If you look at the way total football works and how it perceive talents, in theory it can work wonderfully with the concept of moneyball. For instance, most clubs in England would fail to value a talent like Messi because they would say he doesnt have the physique and quality to endure the intensity of the premier league. But Barca kept him and gave him all the medical support he needed to flourish and flourish he did and still does.
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Agreed. I think it's still very much possible in the Premier League though. Arsenal play some of the nicest football in the past and in the 1980s, the Liverpool team who played the same way consisted of many players who were rather small.
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QUOTE(Rotuham @ Apr 13 2012, 06:35 PM)
If i am not mistaken tiki-taka had some influence from liverpool's pass and move right?
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Possibly but there are dissimilarities. We didn't quite play as many short passes back then as Barcelona does now. We were more the run & gun type, rather than opting for a slow buildup from what I recall. We had Jan Molby who raked long balls across the park, and wide players like John Barnes who would get in behind defenders to seek out the likes of Rushie, Aldo and Beardsley.

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There's a tweet. Cryuff has agreed the deal in principle.
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This is friggin good news ahead. Hope I don't jinx it.

What time is tomorrow's kickoff anyway?


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Skrtel has been a revelation this season. Agger has brought out the best in him.

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Apr 13 2012, 07:41 PM)
What time is tomorrow's kickoff anyway?


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Skrtel has been a revelation this season. Agger has brought out the best in him.
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12.30 noon here so it's 7.30 pm.

It's no doubt that Skrtel-Agger are our immediate future. No coincidence that Skrtel's form dipped in the last month when Carragher came back beside him. I love Carra and all but i hate the fact he likes hoofing the ball. At least Skrtel looks for a man like Bellamy against Rovers before the first goal or Torres against United in 2008/2009 or at least his 'hoof' reaches a man!

Agger .. probably the closest we've got to Hansen. Brings another dimension to the team when he's on the pitch and I can't wait to see him smash one from 25 yards at the Kop End. Love the lad till i have his name on my shirt!!
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If Skrtel keeps his hair like this then we have the most handsome defensive partner ever .. Agger + Skrtel laugh.gif

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If i get into a fight, I will want to call them.

Wished we kept Meireles as well. Scare the shit out of everyone!!

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