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 GENNEVA MALAYSIA, some facts.., READ and UNDERSTAND

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ManutdGiggs
post Sep 23 2012, 07:07 PM

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QUOTE(Anonymous me @ Sep 23 2012, 02:37 PM)
I think you have studiously avoided reading my posts.

a. Not guilty unless proven so. Facing charges not equal to being guilty.
b. Will be released if not proven guilty.
c. So what? Any problem being a pte ltd?
d. So what? RM 50,000 or RM 50 million? Any law that says must be above some magical figures?
e. As mentioned in my earlier posts. Pls read first.
f.  Matter under police investigation and court process. Not advisable to make comments or disclosures.


Added on September 23, 2012, 2:53 pm

1) Why do you think I am offended? Your conjecture or a matter of fact?
2) Buying gold is a long term portfolio as well. We advise people to hold onto their gold and rollover and earn hibah.
3) You contradicted yourself - "I think everyone has the freedom to giv some ideas or opinions. Aren't u doin the same thg? ", then you said  "U dun hav to reply to every single comment against genneva". Why I dun have to, since everyone has the freedom, right?
4) Bragging? Good things I share. It that bragging?
5) The -ve side? How to list if I don't have any?
6) "I know genneva long enuf to und wats goin on. Maybe longer than u.", from your post I doubt so. But it is just my own conjecture, dun get offended.

Enjoy ur beautiful Sunday. Cheers.
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Good try. U can do beta. Cheer.
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post Sep 23 2012, 08:29 PM

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QUOTE(Anonymous me @ Sep 17 2012, 09:54 PM)
Can you give me the name of your agent? I will get to the bottom of it. If there is any proven dishonesty acts by any of Genneva agents, they will be terminated of their employment and if the need arises they will be handed over to the police. And you will get your gold and an extra 5% of hibah guaranteed.


Added on September 17, 2012, 8:55 pm

Can you give me the name of your agent? I will get to the bottom of it. If there is any proven dishonesty acts by any of Genneva agents, they will be terminated of their employment and if the need arises they will be handed over to the police. And you will get your gold and an extra 5% of hibah guaranteed.
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Hey! Anonymous me...I just want to know when Genneva Malaysia can give gold bar to investor(my friend)?? Already wait for a month still didn't received the gold bar !
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post Sep 23 2012, 09:13 PM

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QUOTE(smartpoint @ Sep 23 2012, 08:29 PM)
Hey! Anonymous me...I just want to know when Genneva Malaysia can give gold bar to investor(my friend)?? Already wait for a month still didn't received the gold bar !
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100 customers sharing 30 Gold bars. So you will be holding on to the Gold bar only 30% of your contract time.
Sell back need to wait for more than 6 months before you can see your Money. If new sale is slow maybe longer.
This is how they make MONEY.
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post Sep 23 2012, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(smartpoint @ Sep 23 2012, 08:29 PM)
Hey! Anonymous me...I just want to know when Genneva Malaysia can give gold bar to investor(my friend)?? Already wait for a month still didn't received the gold bar !
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QUOTE(transform @ Sep 23 2012, 09:13 PM)
100 customers sharing 30 Gold bars. So you will be holding on to the Gold bar only 30% of your contract time.
Sell back need to wait for more than 6 months before you can see your Money. If new sale is slow maybe longer.
This is how they make MONEY.
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caught with pants down ......... icon_rolleyes.gif so the wind is blowing to Malaysia already ....... really hope this is not SCAM else cry also no tears ....... sweat.gif good luck guys and for the strong supporters/biz owner pls dun tell me "no guilty after proven", if proven then only say guilty investors money also no where to be found already ........

“Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun, the moon, and the truth" quoted by Budhha
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post Sep 23 2012, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(smartpoint @ Sep 23 2012, 08:29 PM)
Hey! Anonymous me...I just want to know when Genneva Malaysia can give gold bar to investor(my friend)?? Already wait for a month still didn't received the gold bar !
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Are you sure is Genneva Malaysia ? Anonymous me assure, reassure, and triple-reassure for the past few days Genneva Malaysia is not affected by Genneva Singapore.

If you made police report and post here just yesterday, you could have claimed a 1kg 999 gold bar from him....errr...wait....never mind, his offer is not serious anyway so don't be disappointed. He will never honour the promise even if you have posted it yesterday laugh.gif

On a serious note, I think your friend should make a report to police and bank negara. Don't make the same mistake your Singaporean fellow "investors" did. They waited too long to act when Genneva Singapore first defaulted payments
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post Sep 23 2012, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(smartpoint @ Sep 23 2012, 08:29 PM)
Hey! Anonymous me...I just want to know when Genneva Malaysia can give gold bar to investor(my friend)?? Already wait for a month still didn't received the gold bar !
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What is the name of your agent?
What is your friend's name?

To satisfy Eddy's claim of "mistresses" ("mistresses" who bought lots of gold from Gen My), pls ask your friend to go ahead make a police report, scan and post here. I will investigate. If proven true, you friend will get 1kg 999.9 gold bar absolutely free. You friend will also get 5% hibah back dated from the day he signed the contract.

This offer to your friend expires September 26, 2012 at 6 am Malaysia time.


Added on September 23, 2012, 10:47 pm
QUOTE(EddyLB @ Sep 23 2012, 09:57 PM)
Are you sure is Genneva Malaysia ? Anonymous me assure, reassure, and triple-reassure for the past few days Genneva Malaysia is not affected by Genneva Singapore.

If you made police report and post here just yesterday, you could have claimed a 1kg 999 gold bar from him....errr...wait....never mind, his offer is not serious anyway so don't be disappointed. He will never honour the promise even if you have posted it yesterday  laugh.gif

On a serious note, I think your friend should make a report to police and bank negara. Don't make the same mistake your Singaporean fellow "investors" did. They waited too long to act when Genneva Singapore first defaulted payments
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Pls follow Eddy's advice. Pls ask your friend to make a police report, scan and post here for all to see.

Wonder why no one actually made any police report? Too lazy or don't trust the police or nothing to report about Gen My? Lots of air, no action. NATO.


Added on September 23, 2012, 10:51 pm
QUOTE(cwhong @ Sep 23 2012, 09:52 PM)
caught with pants down .........  icon_rolleyes.gif so the wind is blowing to Malaysia already ....... really hope this is not SCAM else cry also no tears ....... sweat.gif good luck guys and for the strong supporters/biz owner pls dun tell me "no guilty after proven", if proven then only say guilty investors money also no where to be found already ........

“Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun, the moon, and the truth" quoted by Budhha
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Any proof from smartpoint and transform regarding their claims? Or another hot air? So many NATO supporters here?

N - No
A - Action
T - Talk
O - Only

This post has been edited by Anonymous me: Sep 23 2012, 11:49 PM
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post Sep 23 2012, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(Anonymous me @ Sep 23 2012, 10:43 PM)
What is the name of your agent?
What is your friend's name?

To satisfy Eddy's interest, pls ask your friend to go ahead make a police report, scan and post here. I will investigate. If proven true, you friend will get 1kg 999.9 gold bar absolutely free. You friend will also get 5% hibah back dated from the day he signed the contract.

This offer to your friend expires September 26, 2012 at 6 am Malaysia time.


Added on September 23, 2012, 10:47 pm

Pls follow Eddy's advice. Pls ask your friend to make a police report, scan and post here for all to see.

Wonder why no one actually made any police report? Too lazy or don't trust the police or nothing to report about Gen My? Lots of air, no action. NATO.


Added on September 23, 2012, 10:51 pm

Any proof from smartpoint and transform regarding their claims? Or another hot air? So many NATO supporters here?

N - No
A - Action
T - Talk
O - Only
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my intention was not make war but give advice to whom it may concern. i'm not invested so nothing i can do about it ..... btw let me guess u might be in top level of management for this BIZ ........ admiring wub.gif
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post Sep 23 2012, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ Sep 23 2012, 07:07 PM)
Good try. U can do beta. Cheer.
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Added on September 23, 2012, 11:35 pm
QUOTE(cwhong @ Sep 23 2012, 11:20 PM)
my intention was not make war but give advice to whom it may concern. i'm not invested so nothing i can do about it ..... btw let me guess u might be in top level of management for this BIZ ........ admiring  wub.gif
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That's the point. Many people who have not invested making all sorts of claims and noises against Gen My............

This post has been edited by Anonymous me: Sep 23 2012, 11:35 PM
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post Sep 23 2012, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(Anonymous me @ Sep 23 2012, 11:33 PM)
Better try again. You could do better.


Added on September 23, 2012, 11:35 pm

That's the point. Many people who have not invested making all sorts of claims and noises against Gen My............
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post Sep 24 2012, 12:29 AM

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QUOTE(Anonymous me @ Sep 23 2012, 10:43 PM)


This offer to your friend expires September 26, 2012 at 6 am Malaysia time.

Haha, like I said so many times, appoint a reputable lawyer as stakeholder first lah. You talk only no action laugh.gif

Secondly, why set expiry date ? No confidence in genneva ? The date is so short somemore. You expect something to happen after 26/09/2012 ? sweat.gif

By setting a date for your offer (which is questionable on claimability), you effectively say you are not sure what will happen after the date. You have insider information until you dont dare to offer your 1kg 999 gold ? Very scarry man... brows.gif
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QUOTE(Anonymous me @ Sep 23 2012, 11:33 PM)
Better try again. You could do better.


Added on September 23, 2012, 11:35 pm

That's the point. Many people who have not invested making all sorts of claims and noises against Gen My............
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means, we cannot give our side of opinion in open forum? u talk ur way i talk my way, either side is non related smile.gif icon_rolleyes.gif why u so care? u cannot assume this thread/forum is yours until u owned it, right? repeat, i dun create war, i made LOVE wub.gif


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post Sep 24 2012, 07:51 AM

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QUOTE(Anonymous me @ Sep 22 2012, 09:12 PM)


No need to sell at all. I am rolling on and on to earn my hibah. I am in no need for cash.

Doesnt change the FACT of this

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(Anonymous me @ Sep 21 2012, 03:43 PM)

So, I sincerely urge existing Gen Sg customers to take up Genneva World Pte Ltd's offer to transfer your contract to them. If you transfer your contract to Asia Pacific Bullion or other goldcos, you will stand to lose quite substantially. Sell the gold in open market, you will lose also. Transfer the contract now to Gen World before it is too late.

Genneva World Pte Ltd is fully backed by Genneva Malaysia. And with new systems in placed, Gen Sg's saga will not happen again.



See this RED FLAG?

Take another 20 to 30% HAircut on top of the initial premium of 20 to 30% for a gold BA rolleyes.gif whistling.gif R
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post Sep 24 2012, 11:08 AM

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Hi Anonymous Me,

thanx for all the info and its greatly appreciated.... smile.gif looking back at the info u provided me earlier, i think Genneva Malaysia needs to look into 2 things that could pose to be the real concerns in my opinion (and not all the unsubstantiated allegations, and misunderstood facts that seem to be coming at you from most of them here)...

1. Syariah Compliant :- if Genneva is not Syariah Compliant at the mo, then i think its wrong to go on and advertise that they are ...i think eventually, authorities may clamp down your payouts of hibah on this basis, though legally in other aspects, i dont see how the current laws will apply to Genneva's gold trading.....i hope Genneva Malaysia is working towards this as i understand that one of the requirements that are not being fulfilled by Genneva at the mo is the return of the Gold within the 3 working days under Syariah Law under the principle of LANI...

2. Too long TAT period :- the other thing is, if and when the Gold takes too long to reach the purchaser's hands (either upon purchase or renewal) it is definitely going to be a MAJOR concern for purchasers.....i remember this period being within a week or less in previous years but i believe its taking quite long these days?.....this is also another factor that Genneva should look into seriously to avoid most misconceptions from the public...

Could you pls revert on this Anonymous Me?....if would certainly help discard the rumours...

3. You are right not to comment on any ongoing trial/investigation that may be ongoing against the fraudelent perpetrators in Genneva SG...bottomline, i personally feel that you have provided info and that its up to most of the readers here to digest, believe and act or to not...

I also do not see the purpose of why some of u here have gone one to involve religion and even name specific politicians in this forum....its also quite clear that there seems to be certain of you here who are on a personal crusade to either smear, tarnish or mislead the public with UNSUBSTANTIATED facts & allegations.....your posts and daily actions of sitting in this forum and trying to disrepute almost everything / all the info provided here definitely is suspect...

At the end of the day, no one's forcing down gold and hibah down your throats....it is what it is...u either take it or leave it....whatever you say abt 'Ponzi', 'pyramid', 'mlm'.....prove it and substantiate it first of all....i have done my relevant research concerning the law.. and i came here for info and i have also shared whatever i could get....be it whether that info has been shown here previously by others or not, im still sharing something....and so far, yes i feel Genneva Malaysia has evolved but there are certain aspects that they should definitely look into in order to deflect the rumours, and misconceptions that are plaguing many....

Bottomline, you calculate your own risks and decide...not even one of you have shown any police reports here either be it whether you have been played out of your Gold by Genneva Malaysia or by your consultants, or what not...what do u have to lose??....even if u dont publish it, update the forum with the fact that u have legitimately sent your complaint to Genneva Malaysia and prove them wrong once and for all...what do u really have to lose...10 minutes of your time for that instead of posting a whole lotta hate comments here as though you guys work here... yawn.gif



QUOTE(Anonymous me @ Sep 23 2012, 11:43 PM)
What is the name of your agent?
What is your friend's name?

To satisfy Eddy's claim of "mistresses" ("mistresses" who bought lots of gold from Gen My), pls ask your friend to go ahead make a police report, scan and post here. I will investigate. If proven true, you friend will get 1kg 999.9 gold bar absolutely free. You friend will also get 5% hibah back dated from the day he signed the contract.

This offer to your friend expires September 26, 2012 at 6 am Malaysia time.


Added on September 23, 2012, 10:47 pm

Pls follow Eddy's advice. Pls ask your friend to make a police report, scan and post here for all to see.

Wonder why no one actually made any police report? Too lazy or don't trust the police or nothing to report about Gen My? Lots of air, no action. NATO.


Added on September 23, 2012, 10:51 pm

Any proof from smartpoint and transform regarding their claims? Or another hot air? So many NATO supporters here?

N - No
A - Action
T - Talk
O - Only
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post Sep 24 2012, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(EddyLB @ Sep 24 2012, 12:29 AM)
Haha, like I said so many times, appoint a reputable lawyer as stakeholder first lah. You talk only no action  laugh.gif

Secondly, why set expiry date ? No confidence in genneva ? The date is so short somemore. You expect something to happen after 26/09/2012 ?  sweat.gif

By setting a date for your offer (which is questionable on claimability), you effectively say you are not sure what will happen after the date. You have insider information until you dont dare to offer your 1kg 999 gold ? Very scarry man... brows.gif
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Is there any offer in this world that goes on forever?

You walk into Giant or Tesco, you see all the offers, the date (from when to when) is always specified or "while stocks lasts". No offer in this world lasts forever.

Of course I have to set a date, my offer, my decision when it should end. Take it or leave it. The offer was on since last week, not a single credible response.

In the 100m race, people who prefers to walk/crawl to the finishing line should not stop those who prefers to make a dash for it. The same for investment. You can take it or leave it. You can walk or crawl to the finishing line, or just stay put and watch the world pass you by. No one can stop you.

Your money, your decision. Stop whinning.
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QUOTE(Anonymous me @ Sep 24 2012, 01:01 PM)
Is there any offer in this world that goes on forever?

You walk into Giant or Tesco, you see all the offers, the date (from when to when) is always specified or "while stocks lasts". No offer in this world lasts forever.

Of course I have to set a date, my offer, my decision when it should end. Take it or leave it. The offer was on since last week, not a single credible response.

In the 100m race, people who prefers to walk/crawl to the finishing line should not stop those who prefers to make a dash for it. The same for investment. You can take it or leave it. You can walk or crawl to the finishing line, or just stay put and watch the world pass you by. No one can stop you.

Your money, your decision. Stop whinning.
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Haiyo....Singapore Genneva already facing trouble. Still talk to loud ? notworthy.gif

Singapore 100m sprinter all kena brought down by the hurdle and got injured. Cannot cross the finish line liao..... cry.gif
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QUOTE(Anonymous me @ Sep 24 2012, 01:01 PM)
Is there any offer in this world that goes on forever?

You walk into Giant or Tesco, you see all the offers, the date (from when to when) is always specified or "while stocks lasts". No offer in this world lasts forever.

Of course I have to set a date, my offer, my decision when it should end. Take it or leave it. The offer was on since last week, not a single credible response.

In the 100m race, people who prefers to walk/crawl to the finishing line should not stop those who prefers to make a dash for it. The same for investment. You can take it or leave it. You can walk or crawl to the finishing line, or just stay put and watch the world pass you by. No one can stop you.

Your money, your decision. Stop whinning.
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What @eddy wants to say is, if we walk in Giant or Tesco, we have guarantee that the offer will be there because the physical mart is there for us to sue should we find anything wrong.

For your case, they are not convince as your so call "offer" has no credibility. If someone really does all the things you required, and you suddenly vanish out of thin air (by not online and del your lowyat.net account).. Who to look for in order for them to claim the gold?

Genneva can always says, oh, who the heck is Anoy me? We dont know, we dont even authorize him/her to offer this kind of offer. There is no such thing.....

Unless of course, there is black and white from Genneva stating that they are prepare to offer anyone gold bar should anyone find Genneva is fraud or scam. Or they authorized you to give such offer. If not who are you to offer such?

Its like saying, if anyone find lowyat.net a forum who scam people money, I (nickname) is prepare to pay rmxxx amount of money. Only the founder of this forum has the power to offer such offer or authorized representative.

So your arguement in this matter is invalid.
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QUOTE(edyek @ Sep 24 2012, 01:23 PM)
What @eddy wants to say is, if we walk in Giant or Tesco, we have guarantee that the offer will be there because the physical mart is there for us to sue should we find anything wrong.

For your case, they are not convince as your so call "offer" has no credibility. If someone really does all the things you required, and you suddenly vanish out of thin air (by not online and del your lowyat.net account).. Who to look for in order for them to claim the gold?

Genneva can always says, oh, who the heck is Anoy me? We dont know, we dont even authorize him/her to offer this kind of offer. There is no such thing.....

Unless of course, there is black and white from Genneva stating that they are prepare to offer anyone gold bar should anyone find Genneva is fraud or scam. Or they authorized you to give such offer. If not who are you to offer such?

Its like saying, if anyone find lowyat.net a forum who scam people money, I (nickname) is prepare to pay rmxxx amount of money. Only the founder of this forum has the power to offer such offer or authorized representative.

So your arguement in this matter is invalid.
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He totally understands his position laugh.gif He no stupid. That is exactly why he can offer 1kg 999 gold bar. Because he can get away easily. Just disappear when there is a claim hahaha
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so, is there any 1 gt the gold bar on hand?
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so, is there any 1 gt the gold bar on hand?
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No...My friend still didn't gt the gold bar...pity. Guess what from Genneva Company staff said to my friend..when last week go again ask for the gold bar" Bank tidak mau release.. because gold price keep on increase" ... what the hell of this any related to the bank! Genneva Malaysia is private company . Before told my that friend Genneva Malaysia one day just can produce 60-100kg.

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QUOTE(smartpoint @ Sep 24 2012, 05:33 PM)
No...My friend still didn't gt the gold bar...pity.  Guess what from Genneva Company staff said to my friend..when last week go again ask for the gold bar" Bank tidak mau release.. because gold price keep on increase" ... what the hell of this any related to the bank! Genneva Malaysia is private company .
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Get your friend name or member no. And ask him to find Anoy me at Genneva (should Anoy me wants to release his/her name) to prove that he has not yet get the gold after waiting for some time.

Then your friend will have 5% hibah and free 1kg gold.

U better ask your friend to do it now or never. Offer has expiry date. nod.gif

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