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 AS1M/ASM/ASW2020/ASN/ASB and other PNB funds V3, lending your money to the government

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lucifah
post Jul 20 2013, 12:06 PM

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docter, what's your interest rate for the loan? tenure?
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post Jul 20 2013, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(natzakaria @ Jul 20 2013, 12:12 PM)
How many ASB accounts can open?
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only one. his wife has one. he just opened his. so both of them have two smile.gif

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post Jul 20 2013, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(navink @ Jul 20 2013, 12:17 PM)
rclxms.gif .. U remember me..  biggrin.gif
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of course i have to remember you. you are one of the first one who gave me new information regarding non-bumi saudara baru who can open an ASB account laugh.gif

and next time other people will ask, i will make you as a reference nod.gif
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post Jul 24 2013, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Jul 24 2013, 03:48 PM)
Ali Rustam tipped to be new PNB chief

FORMER Malacca chief minister Datuk Seri Wira Mohd Ali Rustam has been tipped to succeed Tun Ahmad Sarji Abdul Hamid as Permodalan Nasional Bhd (PNB) chairman.

Ahmad Sarji has helmed the country's largest fund management company since 1996 and it is learnt his contract expires this year.

"The government may appoint Mohd Ali as recognition for his services in developing and transforming Malacca over the past 13 years into what it is today," a source said.
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habislah. this is terrible news.

oh, malaysia govt.
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post Jul 24 2013, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Jul 24 2013, 06:35 PM)
Anything can in Boleh Land  biggrin.gif
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got any sauce? i am quite afraid liao. ASB has performed rather badly a few years back, earning a measly 6% dividend
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post Jul 24 2013, 07:17 PM

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QUOTE(hyelbaine @ Jul 24 2013, 06:59 PM)
Wow, 6% (actually about 7 ex bonus) dividend return at little to almost no risk and no service charge at all is considered bad eh? I know many in this thread alone who would love to be in your shoes wink.gif
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and yet still so many bumiputra don't wanna take advantage of this scheme!

haiyo
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post Jul 25 2013, 08:28 AM

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QUOTE(WebMaster07 @ Jul 25 2013, 06:28 AM)
I just created a calculator for ASB and I think it can be used for all that used the same principle. Just want to know, is it correct?

http://malaysialoansreview.com/asb-calculator

Here's the formula I used:

Annual Dividend Rate/12 Months X Average monthly balance for the year

Say, Dividend rate = 10%, Average monthly balance for the year= RM10,000
So, (10% / 12) X RM10,000 = RM83.33

Take note that the RM83.33 is the monthly dividends. The annual dividend would then be approximately RM999.96.
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ASB is divided into DIVIDEND and BONUS

DIVIDEND is calculated monthly, based on your the lowest account balance of the month,

BONUS is calculated yearly, based on the lowest account balance of the year, and averaged by 10 years

so in addition to the 12 month balances that you need to work out, you also need to track 10 years lowest account balance

in my case, i have healthy dividend, but very low bonus since i was stupid enough to spend all of my ASB (left less than rm50 inside) during my younger years in university wink.gif
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post Jul 25 2013, 08:38 AM

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ASG is an interesting choice

but I have yet to max my AS1M

talking about AS1M, what's the max investment limit?


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post Jul 25 2013, 09:00 AM

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When to check your bonus dates brows.gif

Folio Date Limit Remarks
ASB 1 January Limit 200k Bumiputra
ASM 1 April No Limit Quota
ASD 1 July No Limit Bumiputra
ASW2020 1 September No Limit Quota
AS1M 1 October No Limit Quota



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post Jul 25 2013, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Jul 25 2013, 09:29 AM)
brother... In my mind ad since I was 6
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good to hear that.

but

AS1M is out in 2010 = 3 + 6 = 9 yrs
ASW2020 - 1996
ASM - 2000 = 13 +6 = 19 yrs
ASD - 2001 = 12 + 6 = 18 yrs

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just kidding.

going to maybank now. try to top up ASW2020 wink.gif

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post Jul 25 2013, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jul 25 2013, 10:03 AM)
Just topped up 6K into ASB. Total investment now at RM 456K.
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whoah... you haven't maxed out your 200k initial ASB principal? i jelly liao.
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post Jul 25 2013, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Jul 25 2013, 09:56 AM)
haha. I mean ASM only. Me not Malay la...thats why so headaches ma..
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well, marry a muslim or conver to one

you can open ASB liao after that wink.gif
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post Jul 25 2013, 10:35 AM

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apparently, bumiputra lot is still and always available for ASW2020

i dunno should be happy or should be sad

happy because i can top up anytime

or sad because my fellow princes of earth never fully utilize this (ayam sad when i see old 50 - 60 yr old uncle and auntie queue up early morning to buy into ASW2020 and ASM when allocation is increased...)
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post Jul 25 2013, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jul 25 2013, 10:42 AM)
On one account, yes.  brows.gif
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oh, u have multiple accounts. i thought u have one with nearly half mil but still not maxed out the principal sweat.gif

but sweet, almost half a mil in cash
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post Jul 25 2013, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jul 25 2013, 11:02 AM)
What unfairness? Yes Bumi's may have the advantage in ASB and in some other areas but non Bumi's also have the option of being a smarter investor and making much more money than many of the Bumi's themselves. ASB is not the only investment avenue u know.

Btw, how do you know im a Bumi?  brows.gif
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do tell me more. i'm intrigued. i'm learning.
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post Jul 25 2013, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Jul 25 2013, 10:55 AM)
And for those up there. Please do not reveal how much you have cash in hand as a bumiputera. I have to admit I am totally can't tolerate with that unfairness. This is me. But i am welcome those who said still got slot for bumi, and that's my max limit already. I really can't stand on those who say they having half a mill cash in hand using ASB. Please, if want to say, try be be fair and square. Try stand on my site. Feel the pain as non bumi. ASB and ASD already give y'all, and yet PNB still give slot in other. See how good you're. I am not jealous but just envy.

Sorry if I offended any, because I understand this is a free forum.
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nah, don't be offended or what. let others reveal. instead of being jealous or what, use that to be your determination to excel more

as for the allocations for non-bumi in ASW2020, ASM, ASD and such, you need to be clever. remember, there will always be people who need money and sell their saham. you just need to know when is the "selling season" (usually mid of the month or near CNY, near school opening) and u can try your luck

if you go ask over bank counters, they will outright tell you no more allocations because they are either lazy, or they are keeping the allocations for themselves / their friends

so be a bit more clever than them. use post office to check. be friend with the bank tellers / managers and ask them to let you know when there's a frees quota available

in short, being offended and being jealous doesn't bring you any benefit at all. that applies to any real life situation

btw, are you a girl that you get easily offended and jelly all the time?
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post Jul 25 2013, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(pay_jal4945 @ Jul 25 2013, 03:33 PM)
Hello,
I just wondering how can you put all the money in one account ?
Is it legal ?
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yes. there is no limit to one account. just the initial investment unit is limited to 200k

but in his case, he mentioned he has more than one account, which means it's his and his waifu accounts perhaps.
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post Jul 26 2013, 07:18 AM

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QUOTE(mytaffeta @ Jul 26 2013, 06:12 AM)
if you put initial 200k and did not withdraw any dividend for 9 years only account can expand to 400k.. so i assume your account is ~11 years?
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u can also get it from inheritance... wink.gif
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post Jul 26 2013, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(pay_jal4945 @ Jul 26 2013, 12:56 PM)
This question might been discussed before, hence sorry if I am repeat it again here smile.gif

If I choose to go for ASB Loan, which bank do you prefer ?
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the one nearest and most convenient for you to do payment

though most of the time, repayments are enforced through standing instructions from a specific savings account


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post Jul 29 2013, 08:42 PM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Jul 29 2013, 08:36 PM)

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this is not kopitiam. pls refrain from posting your kopitiam style replies here



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