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 AS1M/ASM/ASW2020/ASN/ASB and other PNB funds V3, lending your money to the government

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post Sep 22 2012, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(whyee @ Sep 21 2012, 08:30 PM)
ahem, whatever happens, adding of fund sizes so near to declaring of dividends is not a smart move. to those who are used to investments, they'll know what it means.
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what is wrong with the size of the fund expanding? as the distributed dividend is automatically reinvest.
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post Sep 28 2012, 12:07 AM

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ASN declares income distribution for AS1M

KUALA LUMPUR: Amanah Saham Nasional Bhd, a unit of Permodalan Nasional Bhd (PNB), declared an income distribution of 6.60 sen per unit for Amanah Saham 1Malaysia (AS1M) for the financial year ending Sept 30, 2012. Chairman Tun Ahmad Sarji Abdul Hamid said on Thursday the third income distribution was an increase of 0.10 sen per unit compared with 6.50 sen per unit announced last year.

He said the income distribution will involve a total payment of RM459.86mil, an increase of 49.1%, compared with the previous year's total payment of RM308.40mil. "A total of 336,411 unitholders, who currently held 8.02 billion units of AS1M, will benefit from the payout," he said when announcing the income distribution. Ahmad Sarji said that as at Sept 25, AS1M has recorded a gross income of RM577.4mil.

He said profit from share sales contributed RM158.1mil or 27.4% while the remaining RM101mil or 17.5% is derived from investments in short-term instruments and other income. "Dividend income from investee companies contributed RM318.3mil or 55.1% of the gross income," he said. He said all income distribution will be automatically credited into unitholders' accounts on Oct 1.

Calculation of the AS1M income distribution will be based on the average monthly minimum balance held throughout the financial year of the fund, he added. AS1M is a fixed price fund with a size of 10 billion units with 50% of the approved size is open for Bumiputera investors, 30% is allocated to Chinese, 15% for Indians and the rest for other Malaysians. - Bernama

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post Oct 1 2012, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(tsunamiboy @ Oct 1 2012, 10:49 AM)
its oalready oct.So wats the dividend for AS1M?
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some1 already posted few pages ago.
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post Oct 22 2012, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(silentsurfer @ Oct 22 2012, 11:59 AM)
Hi all,

May I know if I tried to top up my AS1M via maybank2u and if there are no more units available, will my money be automatically credited back to my maybank account?

(I tried topping up last friday 19 october at ard 1pm. transaction on maybank2u indicates successful and additional rm1 was deducted. tried to update book today but no additional units shown on AS1M book)
Non bumi here.
Thanks.
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RM1 will still be charged even the fund is not successful. The amount will be credited back to your account.
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post Oct 27 2012, 12:50 AM

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QUOTE(doneright @ Oct 26 2012, 05:21 PM)
hmm... in fact, MAAKL Mutual introduced a new fund this month. it is called MAAKL-HW Shariah Flexi Fund...

it is the latest member to our succesful Flexi series. basically its managed by the same people behind the succesful MAAKL-HW Flexi Fund
whoever is worried or lazy about when to allocate your asset in equity, bond or money market can try this fund. the fund manager will do all the assest allocation for investors.

info

the new MAAKL-HW Shariah Flexi Fund is managed by Hwang Investment, who helped to make 104% in 3 years for MAAKL-HW Flexi investors smile.gif

bsed on track record, one can invest with confidence smile.gif
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post Nov 1 2012, 12:39 AM

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QUOTE(uk9089 @ Oct 31 2012, 03:39 AM)
hi, sorry if im asking a stupid question.

what will happen if i maximize my asb loan RM200k.
if i didnt withdraw the interest, will the next interest let say 7% will include only initial or initial + last year interest?
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interest will be add on and your money will grow more than 200K
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post Nov 9 2012, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(n0v1ce @ Nov 9 2012, 11:07 PM)
If I withdraw from ASW2020 , can I reserve the units to my friend if she is to deposit during the withdrawal ?
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no way, it will be taken up by others.
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post Nov 10 2012, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(n0v1ce @ Nov 9 2012, 11:12 PM)
even we do it concurrently ?
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yes, there was once i get the bank 2 counters to do it.
1 counter withdraw from my sibling, i add in another counter concurrently.
ended up 80% amount gone, only able to take 20% what my sibiling withdrawn.

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QUOTE(amalthea @ Nov 10 2012, 02:44 PM)
i hate to say it but i have read thru all your replies in this thread, you are a noob
you like to try to help people but you always come in the way of more senior financially savvy people who like to share their 20 cents
in the end you make them go away
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mind your words.


Added on November 10, 2012, 3:19 pm
QUOTE(amalthea @ Nov 10 2012, 08:41 AM)
you don't need to and you can't because the moment you even start filling up the form to withdraw..... the small syndicates in the PNB office would have already informed another teller staff to standby to pick up your ASW2020 for their syndicate or own accounts.
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This is a serious accusation on PNB, AGAIN, mind your words

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post Nov 10 2012, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(amalthea @ Nov 10 2012, 04:09 PM)
accusation? this is not an accusation on PNB
this is an accusation of tellers who are working at banks and PNB who have personal interests to top up their own account or help syndicates
how do you stop them?
even PNB are aware of them and trying to avoid bank staffs from trying to try repeated deposits into their accounts

again i am not flaming you but i have the right to call you a noob for trying to withdraw funds from one account and trying to deposit the same amount to another account hoping it would work if you do it the same time.
so you are an example. why did you lose so much money????

either you can say that you are damn unlucky that so many malaysians are trying to deposit money every split minute or there are internal syndicates.
do your math.
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It is an accusation because indirectly u are implying that PNB is failing to manage/ allowing their staffs who have personal interest to carry their duties. If you are not happy u can write a complain letters to the management.

I do not owe u an explantion why my sibling need to use her money for emegency and i am trying to take up her quota, by sharing with other forumers that dont do it by assuming the quota could be totally transfered.
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suddenly we have this "sister from Hamburg" poisoning this thread. We can just ignore her for the time being. Let's back to the topic: PNB funds
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QUOTE(smsbusiness2u @ Nov 12 2012, 10:07 AM)
please take note that it is limit to withdraw from asnb fund as below
CIMB Bank = RM50,000/day/account
Maybank = RM20,000/day/account
Pos Office = RM10,000/day/account
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U r referring to the cash withdrawals, this is imposed so that the banks can manage their cash liquidity efficiently.
If u have an account with the agent bank and want to make big amount withdrawal, u can always transfer the balance from ASNB funds to your saving/current account and then issue out cheques/ bankers cheques.
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QUOTE(ccmd @ Nov 12 2012, 07:26 PM)
Isn't 10K limit for cash withdrawal only? I think they issue cheques for amount bigger than 10K
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yes as i mentioned.
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post Nov 15 2012, 11:43 PM

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ASW2020 new report is out at ASNB website.
Based on the investors who invested more than RM50K, it shows that 5% of the total investors in this fund own 70% of the total ASW2020 fund size.

Interesting Finding.
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QUOTE(adolph @ Nov 16 2012, 12:10 AM)
By the way, do you invest in any variable fund price by Pemodalan Nasional Berhad? since your reply almost with fixed funds, if you do not mind.
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No. because the sales charge is 5%.
Other fund hse like CIMB Clicks and Fundsupermat's equity funds (aka variable price funds) are charging only 1.5% to 2%.
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QUOTE(adolph @ Nov 16 2012, 12:10 AM)
Dato Lee Chong Wei is one of the big investor for ASW2020, assuming he never withdraw his 200,000 units.
That applied to Amanah Saham Malaysia as well, 12.5% investor hold almost 60% of the fund size in "Laporan Tahunan 2012".
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LCW is not bumi if he want to invest also need to see the availability of the fund.
ASW and ASM considered the funds that open for multiracials. So we can concluded that the gap between the poor and rich is huge.
ASW- 5% of investors own 70% of the fund size
ASM- 12.5% of investors own 60% of the find size.

Whereas ASD, a fund that only opened for Bumiputera,
ASD - 0.5% of investors own 80% of the fund size.
So the income / saving gaps in Bumiputera is the largest.


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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Nov 16 2012, 03:39 PM)
I also not native.  brows.gif
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I remember last time u said your wife is Portugese thus u invest via her account right?
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QUOTE(jacklew77 @ Nov 17 2012, 01:26 AM)
i read a news few months ago that an old lady pass her saving account passbook to a friend, who work in bank as teller. The saving account got RM 100K++. The old lady asked the teller to help to top up every now and then from the saving account. That's the reason why it is difficult to top up via counter...because it always scoped out by these inside people....the news later revealed that the teller withdrawn the money from the saving account  for own use instead of topping up the amanah saham on behalf.....
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Not worth the risk.
If u want to leave the passbook to the unknown bank teller to top up ASW fund for u. Better do the following:
a) Get few staffs know abt it, the officer, even the branch manager knows, so that there is a check and balance.
b) Let the officer keeps the saving passbook and ASW passbook, so the teller need to collect from the officer every morning and return to the officer end of the day.
c) Do spot check like go to the branch once a week to tally the deposited amount to ASW vs the debitted amt from Saving accounts.
d) use online banking to trace the debited amount from saving accounts, in case any big withdrawals u can go on the next day to check your ASW passbook.

One need to balance the risk and benefit of doing this take your own risk. Do it at your own risk torelance

I have a family's friend, a retired professor, able to deposit RM1mil in 9 months time into his ASW/ASM for this arrangment.
he is considered lucky for his persistence.
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In fact i do not encourange the under table and bribery thingy.

The story that i shared does not involve this unethical thing. What i know is that the retired professor has good relationship with the Branch Manager, and he introduces a lot of mortgage loans and credit card biz to the Manager, thus the Manager return him a favor by helping him in ASNB funds, it is like a Top Down instruction to the tellers to help.

But he as investors do give Mandarin Oranges and kuih-muih to ALL the bank staffs during the festival seasons as appreciation. Win win.
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From the AS1M 2012 report.
0.4% of the investors owns 32% of the fund size.
or 10% of the investors own 76% of the fund size.


Added on December 5, 2012, 1:06 amAS1M Annual Report

AS1M Annual Report

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