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 AS1M/ASM/ASW2020/ASN/ASB and other PNB funds V3, lending your money to the government

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post Jun 29 2013, 04:44 PM

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From my understand most of the bank would ignore the ASB as a monthly commitment as they knows that the dividend incomes is enough to cover it.
Banks pay more attention to mortgage/ credit card/ personal loan commitment.

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post Jul 2 2013, 12:57 AM

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QUOTE(barneysteinsson @ Jul 1 2013, 09:57 PM)
i dont know about housing loan but in hp loan, asb loan that is > 1 year would be excluded in the commitment calculation
i work in hp department
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+1.

Not only HP, mortgage loan also the same.

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post Aug 6 2013, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(AMINT @ Aug 6 2013, 12:48 AM)
U got a sister? Kidding
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post Aug 6 2013, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Aug 6 2013, 03:50 PM)
Maybe the father is non bumi or foreigner & mother bumi sabah/sarawak? Maybe that's the problem. If not mistaken, in those state constitution, father need to be bumi, then only children considered bumi. Other way around not consider bumi status children.  Sometimes peninsular Malaysia people get confuse over it thus asking court order / swear - up.

Only in BolehLand  biggrin.gif
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In Sabah and peninsular, as long as one of the parents is native/ bumi, then the kids could become a native/bumi.
For Sarawak both parents must be bumi.
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post Aug 6 2013, 07:38 PM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Aug 6 2013, 05:17 PM)
you  got that wrong.
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I know in the constitution 161a, indicating that in Sarawak, either 1 parents is native then the kids will be native also.
But some institution like UiTM has different definition.
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post Aug 8 2013, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Aug 7 2013, 05:31 PM)
yea, such as ASG, ads everywhere. lol. but its a good thing also. Variable price not that bad IMO.. Hope they remain 2 % sale charge FOREVER. haha
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Till next year March 2014.
If they don't hv such promotion, it will lost to Cimb clicks and Fund supermart who charge lower subscription fees
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post Aug 12 2013, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Aug 12 2013, 05:48 PM)
Wanna ask, if I wanna draw out some cash from ASB next month, how much is the charge for every transaction? Still Rm1? And need to go to Maybank/RHB/CIMB to cash out?
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post Aug 13 2013, 07:47 AM

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QUOTE(solsekuin44 @ Aug 12 2013, 11:37 PM)
Innalillah.. Doakan mereka yang baik².
Regarding your ASB, I did the same too before raya. A week before raya, went to the post office. Some are taking out their funds.
I was the only one who put in the money for that day.

Yes, have to sacrifice a bit even though it's raya time.
I am aiming to get my 1st 100k in 5-6 yrs smile.gif Insyaallah.
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Some treated ASB as saving account instead of a long term investment. If those eligible to invest in ASB follow the max up ASB account strategy (by loan or by cash) can easily become a millionaire in 15 years time.
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post Aug 14 2013, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Aug 14 2013, 11:47 AM)
Apparently, if you married a bumiputra, and convert to Islam, you are entitled to ASB too
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Funny isn't it.
If u marry a non Muslim bumi u can't eligible to invest in ASB, but if u marry a Muslim Bumi then different story.
Out of topic a little.
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post Aug 16 2013, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Aug 16 2013, 11:09 AM)
Tabung Haji Announced Dividend 6.5% + Bonus 1.5% for year 2013
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Still lower than ASB return.
Is there any max limit for TH
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post Aug 19 2013, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Aug 19 2013, 09:27 AM)
Noted ASW2020 will be suspended from 25/8 to 1/9 for  announcement
Any one know when ASNB will make the announcement?
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Within this week.
If not this week, I buy u teh tarik
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post Aug 19 2013, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Aug 19 2013, 09:42 AM)
Do u think they will announce 'Special' dividend similar to ASM dis year 6.50% + 0.30%?
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Either 6.5%+0.3% (ASM) or 6.8% (ASD), it will end up the same.
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QUOTE(hyelbaine @ Aug 19 2013, 10:13 AM)
Hhhmm... I'm no expert but I'll ....
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Back to your historical BLR, we also need to take in the spread as cost of funding. Back in year 2000, ASB loan is BLR+0.25%, so the gap in between the ASB return is 2.75%, for 2012, ASB loan is blr-1.65%, so the gap between return and funding is also around 2.75%.
So ASB loan is still doable leverage in the current lowest -1.65% spread.
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post Aug 19 2013, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(hyelbaine @ Aug 19 2013, 10:45 AM)
Agreed. As long as one can get the advertised rates than the margins are good, for now. But many are taking awesomingly long, long tenures when movement in the OPR is expected while the equity markets have YET to price it in (as compared to US).

I'm a fan of the ASB loan so long as one is a good paymaster. For those who aren't disciplined enough, it's the only way. I'm not however a fan of ASB loan tenures exceeding 3 years currently (based on current 'climate').

My (poor) reading on the Malaysian economic fundamentals does point to an increase of OPR in the near future. If one is confident that the margins will still be good enough for you to enter into a long loan tenure, carry on wink.gif
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ASB loan usually lock in 3 years.
Anytime if not worthwhile to continue with ASB loan, can just terminate it.
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post Aug 23 2013, 09:32 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Aug 21 2013, 04:42 PM)
Xtract from ASNB website

Saiz Tabung ASW2020 : 17.945 bilion unit. 

The above unit differs from 16.615 bil unit as per latest Master Prospectus  rclxub.gif
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Fund size increased exactly by 8%, but I don't think
aSW will declare all 8%, due to:
1) the initial 16.615 bil approved fund size, there are some unsold units hold by fund manager as buffer.
2) unsold bumi units. ( from time to time bumi units are avail for this fund)
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post Aug 23 2013, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Aug 23 2013, 10:59 AM)
Agreed
Anyway lets hope they declare 7.16% (additional 0.56% as compared to 6.60% in Yr 2012) to coincide with d 56th Merdeka celebration smile.gif
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Or they just announce 5.6% pa return. The rest carry forward to the following years. The chairman's favorite words: "we in fact made an 8% gain but due to the xxx we will bring forward the x% of divided to the next financial year....", same script over the years, just copy and paste by just changing the year.

Just kidding ok...
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post Aug 23 2013, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Aug 23 2013, 12:59 PM)
take not that 2008 is not even the real hit.... but is effect after GE and slight crisis....

historical dividend on 97/98 can't be obtained excluding ASN, ASB ( earlier existence )... ASB drop .5, however ASN increase 1.0 after 98...

but both of them did drop after 08....

haiz...
BTW, i am chinese too, but how come i don't know what is  Chan King Yoong Yow? Can type it in chinese character ?
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post Aug 24 2013, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Aug 24 2013, 10:01 AM)
Go for Bumi AS1M  smile.gif
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Yeah, since all fixed price fund pay the same dividend except for ASB

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