I don't think there's a clear manual settings available. It still the same camera application but with some extra feature/enhancement for the PureView technology.

For more manual features, you'll need to rely on third party app, and also depends on the libraries available and how much they allow access or control over the camera hardware.

The one which allows manual settings and exceed the default capability is available for Nokia N900, which is a very flexible and open tablet smartphone, with FCam libraries, the developer can access many controls over the camera, e.g. slow shutter speed = 1 second, Extreme high ISO of 6400 (default I think only 800?), the FCam app also takes better picture which makes the photo looks more professional with nice effects. The N900 camera isn't very good, but with FCam, it makes the photo looks more nice and interesting and it also brings more fun to photography due to the controls available.
Anyway, it would be nice to have this on the N8 and PureView as it would help bring out more capability of the camera and also more fun to the user.

Posted by my friend from FB, seems like the 808 PureView flyers are ready and available in Nokia Stores:



For Rangers:
Seems no news for the 808. I guess it'll be a hot topic question during the upcoming event, lol?

You mean the launching of the 808? or Ranger Event?
Ranger Event I heard only for Lumia.

Let's hope it's 808 and soon, seems really many people interested in the 808.

Wahahaha, yea. If not wrong, the idea from our group then he saw and he also do and ask his partner to take,

Yup, plus, it even captures attention from those that already given up and move on from Nokia. They're willing to come back for this, even it's not running Android or iOS.

Imagine if Nokia have similar devices for different platform, today S3 and One X may not be able to hold such big sales. It's all thanks to Nokia, as many people switch from their Symbian devices over to Android already. If Nokia have Android device, they could've keep many of their customers including gaining new ones.


This post has been edited by Andy214: May 28 2012, 02:12 PM

Depend on people. I can get the same with iPod Touch at about 1/3 of the price?
Personally, iOS is basically a media OS that were meant for media player, it simply comes with added phone function.

The key point here is, most people only need a media OS; They want something simple with good media functionality and ability to supports apps and games. The rest is a extra (e.g. got good camera, then +1, if got build-in flash (for camera), then +1, etc).

Depends how people see it lo;
1. The price is big difference, just for added phone function mainly
2. If all in one, phone become less reliable and can disrupt app usage or gaming; Then need to worry about battery conservation. When wanna using GPS in car and need to make phone call, another issue.

Anyway, iPod Touch is small, and can also be use as camera + media + gaming device, etc. Budden, I also bored with it. Nowadays people get and willing to carry Tablets like iPad, Tabs, etc. So, I think the term ma fan doesn't apply anymore, =p
Some people everything get Apple, iPhone, iPad. Some will go for get different platform for phone and tablet, then get to enjoy both worlds.

It looks like they're not really keen on 808. Seems they're concentrating and putting full effort on Lumias.
Totally no news for 808

Last time: iPod Touch + SmartPhone = Hassle?
Now: Tablet + SmartPhone = No Hassle?
No difference, when no tablet time, people said hassle carry extra item. Now with tablet, bigger and heavier, people can carry. So, the argument becomes invalid. Haha.
In short, as long as the person happy, it won't become hassle, suddenly they have good reason and mindset can change.

iPad can do same thing as iPhone, no need to get iPhone already, can get other REAL smartphone.
If get iPhone, then can get other tablet non-Apple.
But some people prefer same and only use the same OS.

So, again, it depends on individual; The person happy can already, hehe

This post has been edited by Andy214: May 30 2012, 10:58 AM

Hm... How do you define good smartphone?

iPhone not one. It's more like a media phone; What people like is the smoothness, apps and games and... BRAND.

Android? It's also nothing special compared to Symbian? It just comes with more apps/games and customization.

So, in short, most people wants apps/games, and then the smoothness like iOS.

A smartphone should be able to deliver a good mobile computing experience, which was what it was since the beginning, which Symbian and Windows MOBILE (or PocketPC) comes from since the beginning and now Android.

For sarcastic or jokes; Smartphone for dumb people. Yay! We're all dumb...

This post has been edited by Andy214: May 30 2012, 05:03 PM

Symbian was a smartphone OS from the start since the first Nokia smartphone 7650?
Smartphone is about the OS.

Smartphone evolve from Pocket PC devices - before smarpthone you need a phone and a Pocket PC.

What's a Multimedia device? MP3 Player --> Media Player (can play video, got LCD, got many brand available) --> Then add more feature like Apps support you get iPod Touch... add in phone function, you get iPhone.
Hence, why it's so different from a phone or smartphone. It's locked down and strictly control because it was a media player phone, and why you need to use iTunes... You buy a media player device, it comes with software to let you transfer songs, photos, etc. Some media player still allows you to access it's internal storage bypassing the software.
All I can say is, the entire concept or how it work deliver is different from smartphone.
When you use an iPhone, you don't feel it's like a computer, but more like a simple media device with everything ready for you and no fancy Desktop/Homescreen or those COMMON features available on a smartphone OS.

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Added on May 30, 2012, 5:20 pmTalk about getting dependent on technology, in a way, it can help and also do damage. When accident or things happen, instead of thinking or providing help, most people would? That their device, capture and upload to Facebook and hope to get attention. I start to wonder this is good or bad. If there's already people helping then maybe it's alright to record, but if everyone do nothing and record and watch, then that's...

Ok, out of topic... LoL

This post has been edited by Andy214: May 30 2012, 05:20 PM

True, Symbian is lacking of Full Flash Experience. So far no browser able to bring this to Symbian yet?
Nokia N9 is lacking full flash experience as well, but they manage to bring it into FireFox browser.

What to do, Symbian seems like never move/change much. Before that, it was so good, especially during the early era Symbian, even Windows Mobile.

Android is here to stay, back by the giant Google, being "open", many "foc" developer and community support, a flexible OS that supports tons of things (although still not as good as Maemo/MeeGo in certain areas, but they've been murdered by their own parents anyway, or abortion, lol ).
It's development and updates is also rapid unlike others. I don't see how won't be the more successful OS compared against the other 2, moreover, the other 2 OS is close-source and strictly and tightly controlled; technically the other 2 are not competitors to Android but competing against each other instead.

Maemo was doing so well and got sooo much potential.
If according to original Nokia path before Elop, Maemo was meant to be put on high end category as those previous Communicator series, moreover, it's set to be ABOVE smartphone since it's a tablet based smartphone and the OS is much more powerful than typical smartphone OS.

This post has been edited by Andy214: Jun 1 2012, 09:59 AM

Yup, me too, if there just come up with a new spec that would've been great.
An amazing OS being abandon just like that and they don't give out the source for anybody else to improve it or customize it, else it's possible there will be some new device running on it.

Anyway, even Symbian is going down, only left with this 808 PureView... but seems like as though they're not keen on pushing it, despite it won the award against others and even though it captures many people's attention, even from those non-Nokia or has given up on Nokia.
Sad and I don't get the point.

Introduce PureView to US first and since there're customer also want PureView.
Let them taste it first, as a preview; Then later bring Lumia version, easier to market since already build up the publicity or interest by using the ORIGINAL 808 PureView; In a way, if the Lumia version is really not having such big sensor and such megapixel, they still able to market and sell because they have successfully printed on people mindset with 808 PureView.

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Added on June 1, 2012, 12:18 pmOne of the main problem with Nokia is they always give very little RAM and internal memory, which destroy the whole experience altogether.

It seems they give "just enough" or "minimum" recommended specs, and expect user to use it at minimum level. The hardware cannot be upraded (or no option for end user, not like a PC), when they give the minimum or low hardware, they end up only can tweak the software, which no matter how much you do, there is a limit and takes a lot of time, trouble and worst and finally reach a point when you can do much anymore. Moreover, users have to suffer through all these process which may take a lot of time, at the same time, damaging the product image, brand name, etc.


This post has been edited by Andy214: Jun 1 2012, 12:18 PM

Dig 1 year before Lumia even available.

When Nokia still depending on Symbian sales, they announce Symbian will be discontinued.
What happen? Nokia sales went down, people start jumping to Androids, iOS.
And Nokia don't have Android which many of their customer wants, and Nokia doesn't have any Lumia devices until end of 2011?
This is a new business strategy which I cannot understand.

Technically, WP7 cannot compete with Android, too much difference. WP7 is closed source, comes with tight restrictions and control. Very much same like iOS.

Android offers flexibility, customization, open-ness, etc. Very different characteristics with WP7 and iOS. Those who wants flexibility, customizations, and so on, WP7 and iOS will not be in the list already.
It's like a sports car VS a MPV, if you like sports car, you most likely won't go for an MPV (aside from those buy because of family reasons).

This post has been edited by Andy214: Jun 1 2012, 03:50 PM

Sunway Pyramid also can, got 2 dummy set.