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 Nokia 808 The New King of Cameraphone!, Available now!!

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Andy214
post Jun 12 2012, 09:32 AM

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QUOTE(skylinelover @ Jun 12 2012, 08:36 AM)
hahaha dont 4get samsung copy apple n the SGS3 looks exactly like iphone 3gs doh.gif they r the 2nd most successful copy cat in the world now after china laugh.gif thats how they bcum popular...copy iphone n stretch the screen bigger n VOILA profit rclxms.gif
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Look alone doesn't make the device sell. In fact, many people condem S3 look and don't like the look. So, it's selling NOT because of copy iPhone.
S2 already famous due to it's spec and running Android.

Android and iOS is just different, can't really compare in term of OS. iOS is a media OS, with tons of restrictions and limitations, no homescreen, no customization, basically a very simple media OS (e.g. a media player with added phone function), whereas Android is a smartphone OS with tons of flexibility, freedom, customization, etc (e.g. a mobile computer with added phone function). In short, there're huge difference in terms of OS.

For many people, they only care about apps apps apps (or games games games), so they don't really bother about the OS, as long as it's smooth and have tons of apps apps apps (or games games games). Got tons of apps/games, they can declare as BEST phone in the whole wide world.
So, it really depends what the person wants.

QUOTE(skylinelover @ Jun 12 2012, 08:36 AM)
hahaha it is hard 2 b salesman especially gadget salesman doh.gif of all the items available,,,i think gadget is the only item that STUMPS seller by smart ass customer compare with other items
4 me, i rather find phones on the internet n buy from normal shop. nokia shop/samsung shop/whatever the name shop is overrated n a big waste of time 2 drop by. i also notice that salesman culture here is like 2 annoy customers more if compare with other countries.
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Strongly disagree. If you're a sales person, you get to touch and play the device anytime, everyday. You should have interest in the device and learn about the device. The specs is FIX, it won't change tomorrow, so what's so hard to learn? If the screen is 4.3", then it will be 4.3", it won't become 4.7" tomorrow and then become 5" the next day... It's the same for any other product, e.g. car sales person, imagine the sales person can drive the car and test the car, how come when the customer ask, the sales person don't know anything? Can I say the sales person have no interest with the product, but just want a job?
In any case, there's nothing much to learn, the specs are fixed, but when you ask the sales person, usually they need to take the brochure about and explain to you....
Of course, not all is like this.

Even if the person have no interest, just take some heart out and put in some effort in their job.
E.g. when you ask the sales person a question, does he/she just answer your don't know? Or does he/she take the initiative to help you find out (find out will also benefit him cause he will also know something). But some will just say don't know or just say don't have.
When you tell them other branch is offering this package, what do they answer? Do they go and find out? Or just say don't have (because lazy to go ask and check for the customer)?
Try it, how many sales person is taking their heart out in their job and tries to help the customer. By doing this, they also help themselves because they knows more thing.

Is it very hard? I don't think so, you don't have to crack your brain, you don't have to be a genious, you don't have to even pass SPM, there's no mathematical calculations, nothing. All it take is just some effort and heart to check and find out.

In oversea, the sales person are so much more knowledgeable about the product they're selling, some even know technical stuffs. When they're not sure, they actually answer, "actually, I'm not sure, let me find that out for you", etc. But Malaysian, I think usually you will encounter something call "tok kok" instead of telling you he/she don't know, which is quite common.
Anyway, again, not all sales person is like this.

QUOTE(skylinelover @ Jun 12 2012, 08:36 AM)
i once walk in nokia store in sydney, australia 2 test some new models way back in 2009 n i feel my privacy is damm protected. if i want 2 ask questions, i just wave the salesman 2 come over n they oblige 2 do so. they r also dam knowledgeable with all the nokia phones. whatever questions i throw in, they can answer them all convincingly. i end up staying in the store 4 30 minutes testing all the nokia latest phones at that time with ease. something that i wont ever do in malaysia nokia store. doh.gif
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Yup, that's what I meant above. It's not hard, the sales person also use phones, and once you learn how to use, you will remember it, the phone won't suddenly change and suddenly you don't know how to use.

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QUOTE(pikacu @ Jun 12 2012, 10:33 AM)
so you decided to give your n950 to me? drool.gif
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Me first! tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Jun 13 2012, 12:26 AM)
and one more question, very important one...

camera tone got silent one ar? dun like n8 we need to hack for silent tone when capture....  hmm.gif

here is the drill.... man i wan 808 liao zoom kaw kaw ninja shoot no problem...
by the way this is shot by today when i go back from work  brows.gif
(use landscape mode because i stand at door there, and duwan use focus scare later it will pop out the infra-red focus assist light  shocking.gif )

-REMOVED-

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Later get caught yo~

Got listen to the Ladio? There is one awareness message/ads, saying a dood took picture of a girl then share to his friends. Now the girls can take action and report.


Added on June 13, 2012, 12:52 am
QUOTE(Eoma @ Jun 13 2012, 12:40 AM)
The author mentioned that about 4S produce better colors, but that's not right to compare as Nokia as mentioned they produce output for natural and little processing, to allow more flexibility or possibilities for people to work on the image later. I notice this as well, the image produce by 808 is less contrasty and less vibrant, this can easily be added later via post-processing to the user's preference; In camera settings should have these options as well.

ADDED ON:
Oh, she claimed iPhone4S as the reigning King of Camera Smartphone!

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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Jun 13 2012, 12:52 AM)
no listen ladio  sweat.gif
remove the picture then, pls  tongue.gif

got article link so i can read? wan follow news too... i outdate one  whistling.gif
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Just heard in Ladio only. So street photogs now have to becareful.
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Jun 13 2012, 01:09 AM)
dem sien liao, so we can shoot uncle only lor next time  sad.gif
what is the radio about ? can i have detail?

like shoot the girl with evil intention then kena tangkap? =x
meh... that girl i shot really wear very obvious one... no matter she turn what angle also can see bra liao =x

on back topic... erm... 808 got silent option for camera shutter sound?
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Basically, it's 2 doods talking about 1 girl, 1 dood take the photo if the girl and share it.
Then it ends with something about knowing your rights and the girls can report it or something.

I think it depends if the persons wants to report you for taking his/her photo without permission? No idea. But since just now the photo got something, and internet also very fast spread especially FB share, later reach her, dunno she will take any action or not only, haha.

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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Jun 13 2012, 09:06 AM)
then i gotta set a new album called "ah moi ninja shot"  unsure.gif
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I think many people also don't know yet and they may not know they can report/etc.
But in case it reach the person (e.g. you know FB, if got people share, and there is chance it might reach the person), then it's a risk since the photo got something "revealing" then she might want to take action. Or maybe just click on report on FB?

Anyway, just a precaution.


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QUOTE(sycsyy @ Jun 13 2012, 07:27 AM)
has anyone got the complete set with gorilla pod and tripod mount included package here.
this is another night shot in sunway,
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sycsyy/736695...in/photostream/
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Not available in Malaysia, confirmed by Avaxx. Unless some other company brought it in, but the price might be steep.

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post Jun 13 2012, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(Roger748 @ Jun 13 2012, 12:21 AM)
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One major question:
How do you get rid or control dust build up?

As for the photo, I think you need to straighten it.

QUOTE(faizalmzain @ Jun 13 2012, 09:57 AM)
you can set the vibrancy and contrast etc and save the setting. you have 3 manual setting to save.
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Since it's provided in the camera, then it's the author of CNETAsia problem for not playing around with it. If she prefers more vibrant and contrasty picture, then she should adjust it. Nokia already mentioned they keep the processing at minimal, the same applies for N8; Those reviewers that complain on these should know about the processing before hand.
All images are processed by the camera (unless it's shot RAW, then you need to apply your own processing). On higher end camera, it tends to apply minor processing, even minimal sharpness. It's just the in camera processing (in short, preset PP), reviewers shouldn't really compare the processing so much, but focus more on how the camera performs, e.g. capturing details, resolving details, noise performance, etc.

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QUOTE(Calvin Seak @ Jun 13 2012, 05:11 PM)
500usd for it! Isnt that really cheap?


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Hahaha Share it with me and keep it to yourself ok? biggrin.gif
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Woah, Calvin also here~

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QUOTE(visualfoley @ Jun 13 2012, 09:51 PM)
can i know where can i get the red one? intrested in the red one..
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No Red.
Future not sure, AP maybe?


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QUOTE(sycsyy @ Jun 13 2012, 09:50 PM)
I think this one will make shifu Aspire cannot tahan =P

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QUOTE(sklchan @ Jun 13 2012, 11:45 PM)
why sad? if u really want it u should already get it during few days back, now just wait a bit for the next few batches the price might even lower very soon...  whistling.gif
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According to Thomas, limited units available. Not sure will change or not, since like much better response than L900

But maybe later AP will also come, then may see changes in price, however seems most other country also selling higher than here? Even SG also higher than here right?

Heard N9, no more 64GB unit.

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QUOTE(sklchan @ Jun 14 2012, 12:00 AM)
n9 700 drop less then a year...  doh.gif
expected the 808 will drop 400 within 6 months...  whistling.gif
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Haha, I think Lumia 800 worst?

808 depends, still no AP set? Have to see AP set price also. If only authorised set, then the price may maintain longer and if really they limit the units sold.... as the ranger event feedback, it's all about Lumia...
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QUOTE(bai1101 @ Jun 14 2012, 11:24 AM)
need a case that can fit these Manual Len tongue.gif

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something like this with change able len... make it universal for all kind of fun than definitely can do more fun
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This is not something new. Last time N8 users already played with it. What's so special previously mentioned about for iPhone?

QUOTE(Calvin Seak @ Jun 14 2012, 11:48 AM)
Hahaha Agito brought me here regarding legal issues of taking pictures of strangers on the street biggrin.gif

Poison man after watching the video!
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Haha, smart; Bring you in here together with poison ready =P

If get this, you have have 2 device capable of capturing over 30MP image liao =P
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QUOTE(haley0918 @ Jun 14 2012, 02:07 PM)
meanwhile at the US...

Nokia USA Reveals Plans for PureView Windows Phone

I would stay with 808 Pureview for as long as i can if the next flagship camera phone from nokia comes with windows phone OS and still have the inconveniences that everyone complains now.
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Not sure what sensor, but it's said that it will not be 41MP, but lower, and the lens, sensor size may not be same or maybe smaller.

The thing is, 808 PureView creating the marketing and leaves a good impression on PureView; So it will easily boost Lumia PureView as most people will judge by cover, the popularity, etc.
Not saying that Lumia PureView won't be good, but it's like riding on 808 PureView which has help to created all the interests around, etc.

The question is still, what are the limitations of Windows Phone? How does it affect the Lumia PureView?
Can you upload and share the image in full "untouch" resolution and quality? How do you send the pictures (if it's file size is big like over few mbs)? Upload to SkyDrive and ask the person to download? Send through email?
Perhaps it may not come with high mp, thus they're maintaining a much more smaller file size? No idea. Let's wait and see.


Added on June 14, 2012, 2:31 pm
QUOTE(Agito666 @ Jun 14 2012, 02:27 PM)
mon-mon-monster kill  rclxms.gif
duno i personally feel more like use phone record video instead of DSLR...casual one la tongue.gif
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Same here, easier and also the audio also way better. Plus, don't really know the impact of video on the DSLR.

Unless got equipment like CalvinPixels!!! He's good with DSLR Video.

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Anyone with white unit? Any comments?

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