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 Nokia N9 - V03 - [Fluidity King For Nokia], Let~~~ SWIPE~~~ all~~~ the~~~ way~~~

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post Mar 1 2012, 11:34 AM

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For PR1.2 dudes, has anyone tried doing a refresh in Apps Manager to check for new updates after you've updated everything? For me it seems like the refresh can't finish, been waiting for it to finish since 7am. Weird.
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QUOTE(KennyKB @ Mar 1 2012, 10:58 AM)
Video calling has come to N9.... but only for gTalk at the moment. Remember you heard it from me first.  biggrin.gif
http://store.ovi.com/content/259046
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Lol, thanks for the info. Long live Meego rclxms.gif
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oh yes, imo, FB stock client for N9 now better than Fb for android , eventhough its missing "@<user>" features
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QUOTE(pikacu @ Mar 1 2012, 12:26 PM)
oh yes, imo, FB stock client for N9 now better than Fb for android , eventhough its missing "@<user>" features
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Huh? There's so much difference with Android version wo?
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QUOTE(zachary22_77 @ Mar 1 2012, 11:34 AM)
For PR1.2 dudes, has anyone tried doing a refresh in Apps Manager to check for new updates after you've updated everything? For me it seems like the refresh can't finish, been waiting for it to finish since 7am. Weird.
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Yes, am running under PR1.2 and kept checking for updates and able to refresh everytime thumbup.gif
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post Mar 1 2012, 02:53 PM

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Anyone tried the new GTalk Video Call? I can't find any friends that are using Gtalk haha
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Mar 1 2012, 12:41 PM)
Huh? There's so much difference with Android version wo?
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FB for android current version...

[1] Show "via mobile" instead of "via Facebook for Android" (neverending problem)
[2] Uploading picture cannot select album (previous 2 version it was ok)
[3] timeline lags in android


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post Mar 1 2012, 03:14 PM

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Would be nice if someone can create Facebook Video Chat integrated to tongue.gif
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Used NSU to update...
no lag whatsoever after finished updating
no need for hard reset
took me abt 3 hours to complete the process
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QUOTE(drexar @ Mar 1 2012, 03:14 PM)
Would be nice if someone can create Facebook Video Chat integrated to tongue.gif
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And Skype video chat as well but they have to be created by Nokia. Commercial developers are not very interested in N9. Peregrine seems to have dropped out of the picture.

This post has been edited by KennyKB: Mar 1 2012, 03:35 PM
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post Mar 1 2012, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(pikacu @ Mar 1 2012, 02:55 PM)
FB for android current version...

[1] Show "via mobile" instead of "via Facebook for Android" (neverending problem)
[2] Uploading picture cannot select album (previous 2 version it was ok)
[3] timeline lags in android
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You're talking about the app right?

Or integrated feature? If integrated feature, no doubt, Android is a failure, too messy and no standard.
Their social network integration is a failure.
Still Maemo & MeeGo wins, WP still lacking although their "Messaging" department can say better in a way where everything is merged into 1 thread (view), but depend how you see it (I think I prefer to split to know which service I'm using).


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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Mar 1 2012, 03:42 PM)
You're talking about the app right?

Or integrated feature? If integrated feature, no doubt, Android is a failure, too messy and no standard.
Their social network integration is a failure.
Still Maemo & MeeGo wins, WP still lacking although their "Messaging" department can say better in a way where everything is merged into 1 thread (view), but depend how you see it (I think I prefer to split to know which service I'm using).
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Im talking about the app, not interested with integrated features....as you said, fail as hell laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Mar 1 2012, 03:42 PM)
You're talking about the app right?

Or integrated feature? If integrated feature, no doubt, Android is a failure, too messy and no standard.
Their social network integration is a failure.
Still Maemo & MeeGo wins, WP still lacking although their "Messaging" department can say better in a way where everything is merged into 1 thread (view), but depend how you see it (I think I prefer to split to know which service I'm using).
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well, some of the webOS guy went to android camp, i guess they are heading the right direction in terms of UX
metro ui is awesome, but since it is marketed as 'windows', i don't feel like getting one lo, got very sick of windows :/ but they are indeed doing mobile OS the right way, finally


Added on March 1, 2012, 4:04 pm
QUOTE(pikacu @ Mar 1 2012, 04:02 PM)
Im talking about the app, not interested with integrated features....as you said, fail as hell laugh.gif
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fb app feels snappy, but still not as full-featured as touch.facebook.com

This post has been edited by Upsilon: Mar 1 2012, 04:04 PM
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QUOTE(pikacu @ Mar 1 2012, 04:02 PM)
Im talking about the app, not interested with integrated features....as you said, fail as hell laugh.gif
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But Android stock FB app was way better than N9 stock FB app in terms of usability.

QUOTE(Upsilon @ Mar 1 2012, 04:03 PM)
well, some of the webOS guy went to android camp, i guess they are heading the right direction in terms of UX
metro ui is awesome, but since it is marketed as 'windows', i don't feel like getting one lo, got very sick of windows :/ but they are indeed doing mobile OS the right way, finally


Added on March 1, 2012, 4:04 pm

fb app feels snappy, but still not as full-featured as touch.facebook.com
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The flat-2D style UX gives me a weird feeling, until I discovered a bug when I first play with the phone... It suddenly become clear to me while the UX gives me the familiar feeling, seems it's web based?

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Anyway, right way or not, I think it depends on what type of user you are.
For me, definitely not; When using it, it feels like iOS, full of limitations and restrictions, honestly, I feel really stupid. I took a photo... I can't send to my friend, I can't transfer to the PC without Zune. I feel darn stupid, I can't figure out why and the reason.
It doesn't allow user to add more than 1 mobile number; as a sofware giant that provide database and developments tools, I feel stupid again. It feels like this is not done by microsoft, but some fresh graduate who don't understand database design.
In short, I personally feel it's not a good choice for TRUE smartphone users. What is a smartphone when it's first introduced? I still remember the first Windows Mobile phone MPX100, I attended the MS developer event at Sunway ages ago, it was definitely not the same as current Windows Phone. Current Windows Phone, it feels like someone trying to follow what everything iOS has done just because it's famous without considering what user actually wants.
You can follow the GOOD of iOS, but you don't have to follow the BAD of iOS. In this case, it feels like they blindly follow everything.

The only nice thing I find is the People Hub.... but still,... there's like still a lot of things to be done.
Well, I also like their voice command feature.

Anyway, I passed to one of my colleague. After using for 1 day, he come back to me: I don't know what to write about this phone.... I don't find anything nice, it feels like those old Nokia phones (as in old OS which can't do much). Sad, but true.
Quite a few people also ask me, how the Windows Phone, empty like iOS? And what's special about it? The selling point.
I guess the main selling point is People Hub as of now, but it depends who the users are. For TRUE smartphone users, "usually", they want more; but for those that don't bother about flexibility and just want a simple, smooth smartphone, Windows Phone is a good choice (so does N9, except for the lack of apps/games).

For many people, a reliable phone is still important, and Android fail in this department, you need very high spec hardware with huge amount of ram to have a smoother experience, but it doesn't stop the device from issues like "Force Close" or lag. The "smart" memory management is too smart, auto close for you, sooo darn smart, who ask it to close kill the app I still need? And soo smart, kill your homescreen and restart, kill your call function? So smart. Imagine you need to make a call, and the phone decide to lag and slow to respond.
So, in this case, many user get frustrated, it's not they don't want the flexibility, it's because those OS are failure in prioritizing the important process and provide smoother experience.
This is a phone, no matter what process is running, the phone process should have high priority and user can access it easily and quick; But seems they fail to get this right after so many years.

Only iOS which have quick and easy "Home" button which easily bring you back to the main screen and access the telephone and it's smooth.
Windows Phone also have something similar and it's smooth.
N9 also similar, just that it lacks in app/games and it's consider a COLD phone right now. It's just too bad; In future, seems only 3 OS in the game? iOS, WP and Android. All also not very good.





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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Mar 1 2012, 05:06 PM)
But Android stock FB app was way better than N9 stock FB app in terms of usability.
The flat-2D style UX gives me a weird feeling, until I discovered a bug when I first play with the phone... It suddenly become clear to me while the UX gives me the familiar feeling, seems it's web based?

Attached Image

Anyway, right way or not, I think it depends on what type of user you are.
For me, definitely not; When using it, it feels like iOS, full of limitations and restrictions, honestly, I feel really stupid. I took a photo... I can't send to my friend, I can't transfer to the PC without Zune. I feel darn stupid, I can't figure out why and the reason.
It doesn't allow user to add more than 1 mobile number; as a sofware giant that provide database and developments tools, I feel stupid again. It feels like this is not done by microsoft, but some fresh graduate who don't understand database design.
In short, I personally feel it's not a good choice for TRUE smartphone users. What is a smartphone when it's first introduced? I still remember the first Windows Mobile phone MPX100, I attended the MS developer event at Sunway ages ago, it was definitely not the same as current Windows Phone. Current Windows Phone, it feels like someone trying to follow what everything iOS has done just because it's famous without considering what user actually wants.
You can follow the GOOD of iOS, but you don't have to follow the BAD of iOS. In this case, it feels like they blindly follow everything.

The only nice thing I find is the People Hub.... but still,... there's like still a lot of things to be done.
Well, I also like their voice command feature.

Anyway, I passed to one of my colleague. After using for 1 day, he come back to me: I don't know what to write about this phone.... I don't find anything nice, it feels like those old Nokia phones (as in old OS which can't do much). Sad, but true.
Quite a few people also ask me, how the Windows Phone, empty like iOS? And what's special about it? The selling point.
I guess the main selling point is People Hub as of now, but it depends who the users are. For TRUE smartphone users, "usually", they want more; but for those that don't bother about flexibility and just want a simple, smooth smartphone, Windows Phone is a good choice (so does N9, except for the lack of apps/games).

For many people, a reliable phone is still important, and Android fail in this department, you need very high spec hardware with huge amount of ram to have a smoother experience, but it doesn't stop the device from issues like "Force Close" or lag. The "smart" memory management is too smart, auto close for you, sooo darn smart, who ask it to close kill the app I still need? And soo smart, kill your homescreen and restart, kill your call function? So smart.  Imagine you need to make a call, and the phone decide to lag and slow to respond.
So, in this case, many user get frustrated, it's not they don't want the flexibility, it's because those OS are failure in prioritizing the important process and provide smoother experience.
This is a phone, no matter what process is running, the phone process should have high priority and user can access it easily and quick; But seems they fail to get this right after so many years.

Only iOS which have quick and easy "Home" button which easily bring you back to the main screen and access the telephone and it's smooth.
Windows Phone also have something similar and it's smooth.
N9 also similar, just that it lacks in app/games and it's consider a COLD phone right now. It's just too bad; In future, seems only 3 OS in the game? iOS, WP and Android. All also not very good.
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well, at least they propose something original smile.gif unlike android

This post has been edited by Upsilon: Mar 1 2012, 05:23 PM
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Mar 1 2012, 05:06 PM)
But Android stock FB app was way better than N9 stock FB app in terms of usability.
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If only stock FB android can disable timeline sad.gif
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Just found out the new update the camera got continuous shutter weeeee
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lol Andy, kudos on the long paragraphs. The review on Lumia series I suppose is in the Lumia thread? If like what u say, after they discontinue Symbian in 2016, sigh....... Leceh.....
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Mar 1 2012, 05:38 PM)
Just found out the new update the camera got continuous shutter weeeee
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and grid lines to assist composition smile.gif
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QUOTE(Upsilon @ Mar 1 2012, 05:23 PM)
well, at least they propose something original smile.gif unlike android
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The concept was good; I only wish they remove the BADs of iOS. Less restriction and limitation, it's just too much.
Tango is said will have external storage support, so something could change or maybe not.

In any case, just hope for the best; No other choice of OS already... Hope Nokia will keep their promise to continue support for MeeGo until 2014, and not 1 year 1 update, lol.

QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Mar 1 2012, 05:38 PM)
Just found out the new update the camera got continuous shutter weeeee
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Camera improvement cannot run from shifu aspire, hehe

How's the performance now compare with Lumia 800?


QUOTE(eaglehelang @ Mar 1 2012, 05:44 PM)
lol Andy, kudos on the long paragraphs. The review on Lumia series I suppose is in the Lumia thread? If like what u say, after they discontinue Symbian in 2016, sigh....... Leceh.....
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Thanks.
For mine, haven't write; Honestly, I have very little idea or things to write about it unlike N9 (MeeGo), there's so much good things to write and talk about.
The most interesting feature in WP is the People Hub (but not something new for us N9 users), and also the voice commands, you can also use the speech-to-text during messaging or chat.
I haven't really use it extensively yet, but it seems the "chat" part, it's not always ON, it can go offline unlike N9/MeeGo stay connected or auto-online once you're connected to internet.
There was no Skype integration as well, seems they release a 3rd party app in this case and it's currently in beta, not working well and seems like no background service for it.

Anyway, if you want to an interesting read and insights of the People Hub, you can check out Jeffrey's (Upsilon) post in Nokia Malaysia Facebook page (posted by Choon Siang Lai), he did a well write up on it.


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