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post Feb 3 2012, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(gregy @ Feb 3 2012, 10:32 AM)
Have you tried switching to a synthetic atf? Also, another thing you could try is having your throttle body cleaned.

The mineral atf in our Fortes aren't that great, imo.
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i not sure my ATF synthetic o mineral(caltex brand)...but i do change it every 20k...throttle body clean??/ i think i need consult SC.....heard from american, they asked me drain n flush transmission....i dunno wat that means oso...
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post Feb 3 2012, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(epo @ Feb 3 2012, 12:04 PM)
mineral replace every 30k km, if using fully syn (like shell atf) can last until how many km ?

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I think for best performance better change every 20k km. I don't know about traffic in your area, but in Klang Valley, anyone who commutes to work in the morning and evening traffic should classify their cars as "extreme environment" and service their cars more regularly.

Even though a car's mileage may be low because the car hardly moves in a jam but the engine is still turning, so is the torque converter.

I think a forumer is selling fully synthetic Korean car atf at mineral atf prices, maybe you can pujuk your SC to switch to this for you. Maybe have to pay a "corkage" fee smile.gif


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QUOTE(XionCity @ Feb 3 2012, 01:56 PM)
i not sure my ATF synthetic o mineral(caltex brand)...but i do change it every 20k...throttle body clean??/ i think i need consult SC.....heard from american, they asked me drain n flush transmission....i dunno wat that means oso...
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Basically, flushing out the GB means draining out the old atf, then use new atf to flush out the remainder of the old atf, meaning new atf goes in, mixes with the remainder of the old atf, then flush out. Repeat a few times until the atf is clear. Normally will use around double or more of the GB's fluid capacity's worth of atf. Quite costly but cheaper than a rebuild.

As for cleaning of TB, it's due to the fact that the GB and engine have sensors that are read by the ECU and if the sensors are dirty they may give a wrong reading and affect the engine-GB synergy.

I suggest changing over to synthetic atf first then see how it goes. You can buy ThreeBond throttle body foam and clean the TB yourself.

After that, if still not satisfied, try adding a Fire Storm ignition booster smile.gif

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post Feb 3 2012, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(gregy @ Feb 3 2012, 02:29 PM)
I think for best performance better change every 20k km. I don't know about traffic in your area, but in Klang Valley, anyone who commutes to work in the morning and evening traffic should classify their cars as "extreme environment" and service their cars more regularly.
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i didn't drive the car to work but only used it for a long distance like outstation or balik kampung... mileage clocked 26k km for 23 mths
i'm riding a bike to ofis everyday... so back to the question, even use syn gb oil still need to change follow mineral oil punya duration ?
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post Feb 3 2012, 03:09 PM

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my bro in law replace a whole front windscreen at dr cermin alor setar... RM1.3k
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Hi Epo,
Thanks for the info.
Maybe I will ask around KL area since im around kl. smile.gif
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post Feb 3 2012, 03:18 PM

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Need to ask about warranty..
What do basically/most people do that can void the warranty?
And also, do put full bodykit, change emblem or replace screen double din at dash board effects warranty?
Thanks
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post Feb 3 2012, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(epo @ Feb 3 2012, 03:01 PM)
i didn't drive the car to work but only used it for a long distance like outstation or balik kampung... mileage clocked 26k km for 23 mths
i'm riding a bike to ofis everyday... so back to the question, even use syn gb oil still need to change follow mineral oil punya duration ?
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I suppose if you use synthetic atf you could extend the intervals. After all, 60k km intervals can be considered more than needed, even for mineral (since this GB is supposed to be maintenance free).

Ultimately, the best gauge is your own butt feel. After changing, you will possibly notice an improvement in gearchange and a smoother overall performance (mine has little or no whining sound after switching to synth atf). When the performance starts to deteriorate according to your butt dyno, baru tukar lah.

However, for me, because this is my first time changing over to synthetic atf, and I didn't flush out the mineral oil, I will change it soon (mine's already 21k km less than a year lol). Then subsequently I will extend the drain intervals.

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QUOTE(taurusium @ Feb 3 2012, 03:18 PM)
And also, do put full bodykit, change emblem or replace screen double din at dash board effects warranty?
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it's subjective anyway...
u can do/mod anything u want but be advised to keep the ori part.
if something happen, restore it back...
so far bodykit, emblem no issue but the din 50-50 since its tampered existing wiring... if do outside, need a good w/shop not 'brothers' type...

QUOTE(gregy @ Feb 3 2012, 03:28 PM)
I suppose if you use synthetic atf you could extend the intervals. After all, 60k km intervals can be considered more than needed, even for mineral (since this GB is supposed to be maintenance free).
Ultimately, the best gauge is your own butt feel. When the performance starts to deteriorate according to your butt dyno, baru tukar lah.
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wow 60k km...? the manual stated 45k km but major owners follow SC recommendation which is 30k km...
this GB is maintenance free meaning no gear filter change is needed ? just flush like that...?
ok la will switch to syn after this...

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post Feb 3 2012, 03:38 PM

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Will Naza launch any updated Forte this year with some changes or this 6 speed version is the last of it's kind before the all new model is launched in Korea
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post Feb 3 2012, 03:46 PM

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no news about it... but rumours said they want to include HUD as a standard specs with a 'small' amount of money need to be added too...
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QUOTE(epo @ Feb 3 2012, 03:46 PM)
no news about it... but rumours said they want to include HUD as a standard specs with a 'small' amount of money need to be added too...
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HUD is Head up display? Where our vehicle speed is on the windscreen ?
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post Feb 3 2012, 04:10 PM

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no la... this one we call what...?
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QUOTE(epo @ Feb 3 2012, 03:46 PM)
no news about it... but rumours said they want to include HUD as a standard specs with a 'small' amount of money need to be added too...
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wonder same with people selling in garage sale or different one.... hmm.gif
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post Feb 3 2012, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(epo @ Feb 3 2012, 04:10 PM)
no la... this one we call what...?
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we call it HU...Head Unit
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post Feb 3 2012, 05:13 PM

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driving ex. fc so so about rm10 +-55. as expected because bigger car compare to it's rival. pickup quite good because 16" rim and 6speed. feel very comfortable with the car.
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QUOTE(prominen @ Feb 3 2012, 04:59 PM)
we call it HU...Head Unit
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ahhh... taiko mod sudah clarify... bila mau TT kepong area...???

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post Feb 4 2012, 01:00 AM

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Wanna ask, when should I do my 1st service? Silly question here.. Do I need to pay for the 1st service? I am just a newbie
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post Feb 4 2012, 01:28 AM

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QUOTE(jetpacker @ Feb 3 2012, 11:22 PM)
every forte will have this problem????
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hahaha... itu taiko mod xioncity cannot challenge him la... now mau install ATF cooler lakkk...
if he drive, rpm never below 5k...

QUOTE(jorrne00 @ Feb 4 2012, 01:00 AM)
Do I need to pay for the 1st service?
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payyyyy... oil filter + engine oil jeee...
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post Feb 4 2012, 02:30 AM

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QUOTE(epo @ Feb 4 2012, 02:28 AM)
hahaha... itu taiko mod xioncity cannot challenge him la... now mau install ATF cooler lakkk...
if he drive, rpm never below 5k...

payyyyy... oil filter + engine oil jeee...
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=.='' i always drive below 3k RPM ..
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post Feb 4 2012, 02:57 AM

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QUOTE(sackeen @ Feb 3 2012, 05:13 PM)
driving ex. fc so so about rm10 +-55. as expected because bigger car compare to it's rival. pickup quite good because 16" rim and 6speed. feel very comfortable with the car.
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Wow, that's not too far from my 2.0 SX 6-sp. My typical mileage is around 10.3 litres / 100km, translated to your calculation method, RM10.88 per 55km, or RM10 per 50.5km compared to your 9.47 litres / 100km.

This means, for every 500km travelled, I use 4.15 litres more fuel, or RM8.00 only. And I take one hour to reach my office in SS2 from Subang USJ five days a week, giving me an average speed reading of around 22-27km/h (extra urban cycle).

But to be honest I don't think that's right as I believe the 1.6EX should be more efficient than that.
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QUOTE(epo @ Feb 4 2012, 12:23 AM)
ahhh... taiko mod sudah clarify... bila mau TT kepong area...???
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TT sg buloh lak la...kau organize...hehehe

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