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New car collection checklist
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Locks Keyless Entry (Lock and unlock using remote) Manual Entry (Lock and unlock using key) Master Lock Individual Lock Alarm Alarm reset switch
Windows Power Windows(Check that the driver side auto window is working) Windows control Lock
Electric Mirrors Electric Mirrors Control ( Up, Down, Left & Right ) Folding Mirrors(Check that the Mirrors can be retractable by either manual or electrical folding.)
Console Engine Start Button (if any) Air-Conditioning Fan Speeds Rear Demister Radio/CD/DVD Player Reverse Camera (if any) Steering controls (if any)
Switches Headlights Directional Signals High Beam Hazard Lights Parking Lights Tail Lights Brake Lights Fog Lamps Interior light Wiper (Make sure each speed is correct) Wiper Spray Horn
Dashboard Dashboard lights come on when headlights are on Information lights (eg. Parking brake ) are lit at relevant time Check that odometer does not display excessive mileage
Things to look out for: Test auto-transmission for shock while engaging gear. Make sure that the brake has to be depressed to shift out of Park mode. Make sure that the car can only start in Neutral or Park mode.
Other Interiors Steering wheel properly aligned Steering wheel adjusting lever Bonnet release lever Boot release lever Fuel tank release lever Check for stains and holes on seats Seat adjuster (Forward, backward, recline) Seat belts (Check that the Seat belts lock when pulled hard) Seat belts height adjuster Check for scratches and dents on the trims Rear Mirror
How to "Break In" Your Car Engine Tint Infrared(IRR) - for heat penetration , recommend aprox 90% Visible Light Transmition (VLT) - JPJ approval must not be less than 70% Air Cool -> Strongly Recommended please join Look in MyForte club for further info V-KOOL 3M Window Films LLumar Automotive Window Films Raytech Window Films
Maintenance Comparison Table maintenance price list as at 1/1/2011
FAQ by Cyberkewl:
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Frequently Asked Questions About Naza/KIA Forte v1.0 Written By CyberKewl a.k.a MLBL
Q: How much does the Forte Costs? A: The latest / current price for the Forte costs RM 78,800 for the 1.6 EX, RM 85,800 for the 1.6 SX, RM 97,800 for the 2.0 SX
Q: Which trim/version of the forte is most worth it to buy? A: The SX version is the most bang for buck, whether you're going for the 1.6 or 2.0 SX. If you can spare the cash for the road tax cost of the 2.0, go for it (approx < RM 400). The 1.6 SX has extra goodies such as reverse camera, paddle shifters (!!), stability control programmes such as EBD, CBC, BAS, TCS (the 1.6 EX only has ABS), 6 CD changer, Electric folding mirrors, Keyless entry & start/stop engine button, full auto aircond system, Front fog lamps. On the other hand the 2.0 SX has an improved Motor Driven Power Steering, Cruise Control, Leather seats, side & curtain airbags (and of course, a 2 Litre engine!). Ultimately if you're alright with the lower spec EX which does not have the full stability control programmes and on a tight budget, its still a steal compared to many other cars in the market.
Q: How is the resale value of the KIA Forte? I heard Korean cars have bad resale value. A: Now this is often debated in the forums and almost everywhere else. Firstly, the KIA Forte is the newest generation or batch of KIA cars in which KIA is trying to get rid of their bad image or perception of korean cars being cheap, unreliable, soulless, fuel guzzers and uninspiring. The resale value of the KIA forte is still being examined and determined by market forces, so it is still somewhat unclear where it stands at the moment. We'd have to wait at least 3-5 years before passing judgement on resale value. Comparing to the standard Toyota & Honda cars (lets call them T&H from now on), KIA cars in Malaysia will definitely have a much lower resale value compared to T&H.
However, lets put it this way, the Forte is priced at the range of Toyota Vios and Honda City but with better equipment, specification and the vehicle itself is in a higher segment compared to those two cars (Forte is a C segment car while the Vios & City are both B segment cars). With this being said, since Forte has more value for money, even with a lower resale value (should it come to that), it is still worth it right? Because you get to drive a car that has a lot more features, is more roomy and has great looks to boot! All for the same price (the 1.6 SX) as the highest spec Toyota Vios G (highest non-TRD spec)! Designed by world-renowed ex-audi designer Peter Schreyer, this new KIA car is a force to be reckoned with!
Q: I've heard that Naza's after sales service is terrible/horrible, is this true? A: If you're referring to bad Service Centres, there are some that do not give a more professional service to customers, but you can go to other service centres should the service rendered by the one that you've visited is not up to par. Two of the highly recommended service centres in the Forums are the ones in Jalan Chan Sow Lin and Selayang. Remember, you only need to service your car once every 3 - 6 months depending on the type of engine oil you choose and if going to a much further one but more professional service centre is going to give you better satisfaction, why not? After all, its only once every 3 - 6 months not every 3 - 6 days or every 3 - 6 weeks even!
On the other hand, if you're referring to the parts delivery for warranty, the parts may take time to arrive depending on the demand and I believe once there are more Forte's on the road, the availability of the parts should be more abundant.
Q: How is the Forte's Fuel Consumption? Is it good / better than say a Toyota Vios / Honda City? A: Forte's fuel consumption is reasonable for a C segment car which weighs about 1.3 tonnes. Varies between 6L/100KM to 11L/100KM depending on driving conditions and your right leg. I am currently still on my first service on my Forte 1.6 SX FL 6 Speed and the FC ranges between 8.35L/100KM to 10L/100KM (before first service it was 10L/100KM). Road conditions are mixed at about 80% highway / 20% city with occassional spirited driving using paddle shifters. If your route consists mostly traffic jams with stop-and-go type of traffic, I believe the Forte would not give you a reasonable fuel consumption (possibly between 10L-11L/100KM). One of the reasons why the fuel consumption is not as good as Toyota Vios and Honda City is because the Vios weighs about 1075KG while the Honda City weighs about 1100 KG which is 200 Kilos lighter than the Forte. That being said, with the car weighing at 1.3 tonnes, it helps in ensuring the stability of the car during cornering and also helps during accidents. Which is why the Forte was awarded by the Insurance Institute For Highway Safety (IIHS) as the "Top Safety Pick" for 2010. Honestly speaking, if you are into good fuel consumption but just want an everyday car to drive from point A to point B, just get a Toyota Vios. Its boring, it has good fuel efficiency, simple, nothing to shout about. But if you're looking for a really great car, look no further. Don't dwell too much on the fuel consumption and you will be rewarded with an amazing drive and a safe car to take you and your family all the way to your destination.
Q: How many years is the warranty on the Forte? A: The forte comes with a 5 years unlimited mileage warranty which consists of 2 years from Naza KIA and 3 years from Allianz Insurance (do not worry, you don't have to buy your car insurance from Allianz to be entitled for the remaining 3 years of warranty).
Q: Are the maintenance costs for the Forte high compared to cars of similar price range? A: Not at all. Comparing to some cars of similar price range such as the Vios & City, Forte's maintenance cost is probably the lowest among them. Also do take note that if you're planning to buy a Honda City or any Honda car for that matter, honda requires you to service your car at 3 month intervals regardless of the engine oil that you are using be it mineral or synthetic oil. This would mean higher maintenance costs. For more details and comparison with other cars, google for "Forte Maintenance Comparison Chart".
Q: Is the forte safe? A: Definitely. The top of the range 2.0 SX with 2 frontal airbags and 4 side/curtain airbags, stability programmes such as ABS, EBD, CBC, BAS, TCS was awarded by the Insurance Institute of Highway Safety as the "Top safety pick" for 2010. With a weight of 1.3 tonnes, the Forte is definitely a lot safer than other famous budget cars such as the Toyota Vios and Honda City.
I think I know what's my car's problem....very easy to find out why underpower...same as lots of 4speed 1.6SX users..... Did u all notice that 4 speed, when engine running hot, gearbox attempt shift slower and when is engine cold(cold start), it shift properly....sometimes when overtaking cars, it takes time to shift down gears, and sometimes when u accelerate, it keep on drag till for sometimes before engaging another gear....this happens when using car after few minutes when engine temperature rise to normal.... Even with stock rims, I still feel our 1.6SX Forte still powerful, but because of gear 'delay shift' which might do with gear ratio timing with accelerator not accurate....even though last week i sent my car to NAZAKIA Alor setar for checking due to underpower, they stated this problem to me, and told me they reset it back....after few days...same thing happen....I think might need install ATF cooling solution like KFC did....thinking of installing 1 in Alor Setar, but having hard time to find it, due to busy-ness.....
Have you tried switching to a synthetic atf? Also, another thing you could try is having your throttle body cleaned.
The mineral atf in our Fortes aren't that great, imo.
i not sure my ATF synthetic o mineral(caltex brand)...but i do change it every 20k...throttle body clean??/ i think i need consult SC.....heard from american, they asked me drain n flush transmission....i dunno wat that means oso...
hahaha... itu taiko mod xioncity cannot challenge him la... now mau install ATF cooler lakkk... if he drive, rpm never below 5k... payyyyy... oil filter + engine oil jeee...
Forte value sure still lower than T&H, but in term of korean car resale value from past few yrs(from spectra time), had been increase significantly..... 2010 Forte 1.6 SX cost close to 82k, but after 3 years (2012), still can sell around 6xk.....consider quite high...
and KH17 kumho tyres are build for wet grip....that's y it's so noisy due to the tyre pattern of the tyre....according to few tyre shops i asked around, they said those tyres which build for grip during rainny days like PS3, F1 Asymetric 1/2, are more noisier than 'old man tyre'..which means soft tyres which offers more comfort n less noise...for example yokohama C-drive, falken ZIEX.....i've used kumho tyres with stock rims for 2 years, still around 60% left thread....around 34k kilomileage...
Whole F&F know kevin23 is K-basher since 2010... He'll talk2 like his brain is at his cock... kakaka... And still wondering why he still hovering around in K thread...
dunno, his brain is anti-K, but is heart love-K...juz he can't afford it or bought wrong brand(P brand)...hehehe
Added on March 3, 2012, 9:24 pm
QUOTE(kevin23 @ Mar 3 2012, 06:08 PM)
Its part of Korean technology.I have been talking about this countless times.And I can bet you its nothing to do with alignment and balancing.Its just like a Myvi,once you reach 140kmh,the whole steering vibrates and its got nothing to do alignment and balancing.Its just that their technology is not up to mark..
You dont get these kinda things in Japs
say, my Toyota Corolla SEG AE101, once reached 95km/h start hear wind noise, start feel vibrations.......but is Jap car, not Korean car...Myvi, a copy of Jap's Daihatsu n Toyota.....so??? any more bashing 2 do with 'KOREAN TECH VS. JAP TECH'?? even 199x mercedes benz....brake can't makan, when engaging P to R, whole car vibrates seriously...dun tell my mercedes benz uses korean tech too....
This post has been edited by XionCity: Mar 3 2012, 09:24 PM
I am looking for a new car as a replacement for my old iswara and after doing some survey, i am deeply interested with kia forte 1.6SX.
As this will be my first car (buying using my own money), I would like to ask some questions:
1. Due to my parents intervention, they are against me on buying Korean cars whereby from the rumors they heard (which i somewhat disagree with them) that spare parts for the korean cars is somewhat expensive. To what degree is it true to this? Will it be the same if its Honda? or Toyota or perhaps Ford cars?
2. 9-year loan. All the disadvantages regarding 9-year loan for a car aside, will i actually secure any loans for this period of time if i wanted to buy the car? Or maximum period of loan repayment is capped for 7-years? This will be my 1st time buying my own car, appreciate some advises on this.
Thanks!
Answer for Q1, parts for Forte are imported from Korea...parts and shipment, that's why they're expensive, while Jap their parts are locally made...for CKD models, thus goes with CKD quality....of coz would fit them n is reasonable cheap, but if u go for imported Jap cars like Toyota Alphard Vellfire/Honda Odyssey CBU, Toyota Estima CBU unit...or now newest Toyota PRIUS (new facelift)/PRIUS C, Honda CRZ/Insight....try ask honda dealer and toyota dealer quote u original OEM parts fully imported from Japan n see....then only is a fair comparison for Korean car parts......Ford??? hohoho, dun mentioned about Ford and conti...they spare parts....way higher than Malaysian, China, Korean and Japanese cars...
Answer for Q2, the least year amount of loan, the better...in between 5yrs, 7yrs, and 9 yrs...5 yrs will b the best, while 7yrs is juz ok....for 9yrs, juz like u r giving 'free' money to the bank....calculate loan for 7yrs n 9yrs.....then minus the loan amount+interest....u will c the difference....