1st service is just to change the oil and oil filter.

Have you tried switching to a synthetic atf? Also, another thing you could try is having your throttle body cleaned.

The mineral atf in our Fortes aren't that great, imo.

I think for best performance better change every 20k km. I don't know about traffic in your area, but in Klang Valley, anyone who commutes to work in the morning and evening traffic should classify their cars as "extreme environment" and service their cars more regularly.

Even though a car's mileage may be low because the car hardly moves in a jam but the engine is still turning, so is the torque converter.

I think a forumer is selling fully synthetic Korean car atf at mineral atf prices, maybe you can pujuk your SC to switch to this for you. Maybe have to pay a "corkage" fee

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Added on February 3, 2012, 2:36 pmBasically, flushing out the GB means draining out the old atf, then use new atf to flush out the remainder of the old atf, meaning new atf goes in, mixes with the remainder of the old atf, then flush out. Repeat a few times until the atf is clear. Normally will use around double or more of the GB's fluid capacity's worth of atf. Quite costly but cheaper than a rebuild.

As for cleaning of TB, it's due to the fact that the GB and engine have sensors that are read by the ECU and if the sensors are dirty they may give a wrong reading and affect the engine-GB synergy.

I suggest changing over to synthetic atf first then see how it goes. You can buy ThreeBond throttle body foam and clean the TB yourself.

After that, if still not satisfied, try adding a Fire Storm ignition booster

This post has been edited by gregy: Feb 3 2012, 02:36 PM

I suppose if you use synthetic atf you could extend the intervals. After all, 60k km intervals can be considered more than needed, even for mineral (since this GB is supposed to be maintenance free).

Ultimately, the best gauge is your own butt feel. After changing, you will possibly notice an improvement in gearchange and a smoother overall performance (mine has little or no whining sound after switching to synth atf). When the performance starts to deteriorate according to your butt dyno, baru tukar lah.

However, for me, because this is my first time changing over to synthetic atf, and I didn't flush out the mineral oil, I will change it soon (mine's already 21k km less than a year lol). Then subsequently I will extend the drain intervals.

This post has been edited by gregy: Feb 3 2012, 03:30 PM

Wow, that's not too far from my 2.0 SX 6-sp. My typical mileage is around 10.3 litres / 100km, translated to your calculation method, RM10.88 per 55km, or RM10 per 50.5km compared to your 9.47 litres / 100km.

This means, for every 500km travelled, I use 4.15 litres more fuel, or RM8.00 only. And I take one hour to reach my office in SS2 from Subang USJ five days a week, giving me an average speed reading of around 22-27km/h (extra urban cycle).

But to be honest I don't think that's right as I believe the 1.6EX should be more efficient than that.

I dunno about yours, but mine comes with an alarm system. Once the doors are locked, if I open any door the alarm will trigger. But instead of a dedicated alarm buzzer it sounds the car horn and flashes the signal repeaters. You can't start the car without the correct key being in the vicinity so yes there is an immobilizer.

Hmmm, now that you brought it up. Will go and test again to verify. I remember once or twice I triggered the alarm but your statement kinda threw me off a bit. Will let you know once I've tried it

There is a Lim Tayar shop (CKL) in Subang Jaya that charged me 90++ for alignment and one camber bolt. No need to import special bolt la, they have found a way to use what they have and add a washer to make it compatible. Works for me

In case anyone is interested, it's the shop next to a Shell station as you are driving along the NPE from Sunway heading to USJ. After passing SS14 and SS15 you need to exit the flyover and keep left to continue towards SS19 and USJ. Right after taking the bend, you will see the shop on your left. The boss is a young friendly guy who drives a 'Roc.

Well, true, but at least they are really professional when handling customers' cars. Nobody gets in without first placing a seat cover that covers from headrest all the way down, and you won't find grubby hands touching your steering wheel. There are also place cloths for when they work on your engine bay. Free wifi, coffee, tea in an air cond lounge etc. For me, these reasons are enough to pay a slight premium over other places.

And they took around two hours to align my ride, doing more than three rounds of test and adjust. And it fixed the pulling left issue for me

That's normal, don't worry about it

Try switching your multi function display to "Instant" mode. When you see the bar at 0l/100km, what's happening is the car's momentum is turning the engine and keeping the alternator, air cond, power steering etc working. All these things impose a load which slows the car down. Once below a certain speed the "Instant" bar will come alive again. During this period you will find that engine braking is less pronounced because fuel is reintroduced to fire up the engine.

Engine braking saves fuel and brake pads.

Sorry I didn't follow earlier about your torsion beam. What was wrong with it?

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[quote=epo,Feb 17 2012, 10:54 AM]
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it's up to individual... for me if ekon tara sejuk then service la...
if not, no need to bother it, maybe wait until 80k km...
ok la tu... that's is what ur bonus for... to pay ur car maintenance, insurance, etc...
anyway u can request the list of items what need to be changed, if feels no need, then remove laaa...

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If you don't service the air cond with the SC, lain hari kalo ekon rusak, warranty lesap bro...

Just have to remember that warranty is an expense and all companies will do their best to make sure to keep this expense to a minimum

Just bayar je, unless it is stated that the air cond is not covered under warranty.

Same chassis as the MD Elantra. No surprise that the stance of the car is similar but I don't think the front looks that nice compared to the Elantra. Better wait for the unveiled car before making further judgment

I don't think they were wrong. What you have in your car right now is a fully synthetic ATF compared to the mineral stuff that was in your car from the factory. Did you complain about anything relating to your gearbox? Hard shifting? Bad FC? Fully synth ATF will take care of your GB better than mineral.

Maybe it's a new directive from the new mngmt at Naza Kia to protect themselves from premature GB failures. Good for us also la, but bad because we are paying for it lol...

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u willing to drive to KULIM...???
ok since they change to full syn ATF, so how about the auto trans fluid replacement interval ? still every 40k km ?
should be more higher (ie : 60k km)... or double it up to 80k km ?

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I was just talking to an SC (USJ 19) and she said that for the 6-sp model they use the fully synth ATF, every 40,000km intervals. Recommendation from HQ. She is charging RM7x per bottle.

She said that this new 6-sp GB needs this SP-IV spec. In fact she claims that the 6-sp already came with SP-IV from the factory. Dunno la, I'm just tweeting what she said...

Either that or he could consider lightweight 17" wheels My OZ 17" are 3++ kg lighter than stock wheels. No need to change tyres or compromise the looks, but ride comfort only lah yg suffer sket.

FC improvement not much, maybe around 0.5l/100km. But the car very willing to sprint On a good week I can get around 8.5l/100km, mixed 70% city / 30% highway. For full city drive with the farkin morning jam five days a week, around 11l/100km hehe. Quite a big difference.

I'm using OZ Alleggerita, around RM1,150/pc.