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post Aug 3 2012, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 2 2012, 10:50 PM)
Just a discussion, a "fall down" or "dropped" HDD, shouldn't be the data on the disk itself is still intact? or electromagnetism on the disk itself (that storing the data) will be loss on the disk due to the fall?

As I reckon, when the HDD is not in operation (when carried along), a dropped could means damage the mechanical part of the HDD, as head is parked during idle (non-operation), there shouldn't be any scratches on the disk.
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Assuming that was true, the data recovery centres are doing a poor job of communicating that potentially crucial information to would-be clients. Then again, it might be to milk the most out of their clientele by not differentiating an easy job from what may be a very difficulty job.

JiesonJason, was your external HDD powered when it fell?
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post Aug 3 2012, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(everling @ Aug 3 2012, 12:29 PM)
Assuming that was true, the data recovery centres are doing a poor job of communicating that potentially crucial information to would-be clients. Then again, it might be to milk the most out of their clientele by not differentiating an easy job from what may be a very difficulty job.

JiesonJason, was your external HDD powered when it fell?
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nope. i din plug on it. is just drop down cause i din zip it.
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QUOTE(ahsiah @ Aug 2 2012, 04:53 PM)
I saw some low Yat price list, got WD Red and not sure who had bought it and use. Care to post some comment?
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imho, red only 3yr wrty, if can, try got for black one with 5yr wrty, price not difference much afterall.
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post Aug 6 2012, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(JiesonJason @ Aug 3 2012, 01:02 AM)
so i can send to repair and get back my data? those data are very important for me. is all assignment that i done on my studies.
I've often stressed before that do not rely on external HDDs as a backup device. IMHO, the best backup is either to use redundancy (have another HDD for duplication of your data), and/or burn your data into high quality CDR/DVDR media. Please note that not all CDR/DVDR media are made equal. If you want to use CDR/DVDR media then ask me on which are the reliable ones. wink.gif

QUOTE(JiesonJason @ Aug 3 2012, 04:42 PM)
nope. i din plug on it. is just drop down cause i din zip it.
Could be many sources of damage. If the connectors are internally damaged then there's a chance to retrieve the data yourself. However if you can't find any other physical external damage, then most likely the HDD inside has been damaged (possibly the read/write head). In the latter case (ie. HDD damaged), there's little you can do except to look for (expensive) professional data recovery services... hmm.gif

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post Aug 6 2012, 06:03 PM

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im getting 3TB HDD, can someone tell me the different between my book essential and my book live?
i notice that internal and external price is just about the same, so i plan to get the external smile.gif
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post Aug 6 2012, 08:56 PM

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At moment have WD 1TB. Mostly for storage...movies, games etc. So planning to add another one. Which one should i get, HDD or SSD? Cos this one I just plan for boot (OS), put some program...My SSD target is only 120GB. I think this is the cheapest one in the market.

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post Aug 7 2012, 01:38 AM

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OS boot ---> SSD
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post Aug 7 2012, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(AdamNg @ Aug 6 2012, 08:56 PM)
At moment have WD 1TB. Mostly for storage...movies, games etc. So planning to add another one. Which one should i get, HDD or SSD? Cos this one I just plan for boot (OS), put some program...My SSD target is only 120GB. I think this is the cheapest one in the market.
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Are you concern of your booting and opening application speed? If so then SSD, if not then HDD would be sufficient.
If you want recommendation of SSD then go to SSD thread instead. wink.gif


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Somehow my another HD204UI is dead, sigh... what a let down, and 1 whole year of anime downloads cry.gif
Recover half-way... cry.gif cry.gif
Clicking sound..
Download HD204UI clicking sound
... even has some dancing rhythm to it doh.gif
Recorded using Galaxy Note at 1 inch away from the HDD when running.

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post Aug 7 2012, 12:17 PM

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my WD element SE 750gb hdd is using usb 2.0 cable ...can i buy a same cable with usb 3.0 and use on it ?

am i able to plug the cable into my WE element 750gb hdd ? how about the performance ?



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post Aug 7 2012, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Aug 7 2012, 10:31 AM)
Somehow my another HD204UI is dead, sigh... what a let down, and 1 whole year of anime downloads  cry.gif
Recover half-way...  cry.gif  cry.gif
Clicking sound..
Download HD204UI clicking sound
... even has some dancing rhythm to it doh.gif
Recorded using Galaxy Note at 1 inch away from the HDD when running.
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My condolences. sad.gif I hope the same doesn't happen to my HD204UI, but I do have most of my data in it duplicated to my WD Green 2TB.

QUOTE(steventan85 @ Aug 7 2012, 12:17 PM)
my WD element SE 750gb hdd is using usb 2.0 cable ...can i buy a same cable with usb 3.0 and use on it ?

am i able to plug the cable into my WE element 750gb hdd ? how about the performance ?
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The cable alone means nothing. It is the USB 3.0 cable and the USB 3.0 ports on both ends that allows USB 3.0 do its magic. If your desktop or laptop or ext HDD doesn't have USB 3.0, you might as well forget about it until you get replacements or workarounds.

Assuming that you do have the required components, the external HDD should perform about the same as an internal HDD; do not expect miracles.

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who using seagate momentus here.?
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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Aug 7 2012, 10:31 AM)
Somehow my another HD204UI is dead, sigh... what a let down, and 1 whole year of anime downloads  cry.gif
Recover half-way...  cry.gif  cry.gif
Clicking sound..
Download HD204UI clicking sound
... even has some dancing rhythm to it doh.gif
Recorded using Galaxy Note at 1 inch away from the HDD when running.
If your Anime collection is considered "the precious" then next time burn a copy into good DVD+R media for backup (recommended). icon_idea.gif

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post Aug 7 2012, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(everling @ Aug 7 2012, 12:25 PM)
The cable alone means nothing. It is the USB 3.0 cable and the USB 3.0 ports on both ends that allows USB 3.0 do its magic. If your desktop or laptop or ext HDD doesn't have USB 3.0, you might as well forget about it until you get replacements or workarounds.
USB 3 port aside, I believe the USB 3 cable itself is physically different on one end. So if steventan85 intends to use a USB 3 cable on his USB 2 WD element SE, it's simply not going to work. His WD element SE needs to be USB 3 in order to use a USB 3 cable.


Added on August 7, 2012, 10:51 pm
QUOTE(lex @ Aug 7 2012, 08:16 PM)
If your Anime collection is considered "the precious" then next time burn a copy into good DVD+R media for backup (recommended). icon_idea.gif
How many DVD-R would be required to backup 2TB worth of anime? sweat.gif

Cheaper and faster to buy another hardisk to backup and store it away.

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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Aug 7 2012, 10:48 PM)
How many DVD-R would be required to backup 2TB worth of anime?  sweat.gif
Lots of course. Just backup those you think are best kept, the rest which are not so important can slowly backup later. I've had many CDRs and DVDRs survived for years. So far there are only very few brand/models CDRs and DVDRs that can be recommended (able to retain data very well), while the rest is junk. wink.gif

QUOTE(jchue73 @ Aug 7 2012, 10:48 PM)
Cheaper and faster to buy another hardisk to backup and store it away.
The problem with HDDs is that they can suddenly fail and all your "precious" goes to the grave with it. Unless you have two HDDs for redundancy (with identical data on both drives). icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Aug 8 2012, 01:19 AM

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QUOTE(lex @ Aug 7 2012, 11:41 PM)
The problem with HDDs is that they can suddenly fail and all your "precious" goes to the grave with it. Unless you have two HDDs for redundancy (with identical data on both drives). icon_rolleyes.gif
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This is the path I choose, two HDDs. It's very convenient to have everything available on disk and not having to mess with hundreds of DVDs. flex.gif

I just hope that my rig won't get electrocuted. blush.gif I should look into a 2TB ext HDD for offline backup.

2TB is equivalent to almost 400 4.7GB DVDs, and you'll probably need more than 400 DVDs to burn 2TB of anime because the files won't fit in nicely. With 3TB, it'll be equivalent to 600 DVDs, and 800 DVDs for 4TB (when they come out).
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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Aug 7 2012, 10:31 AM)
Are you concern of your booting and opening application speed? If so then SSD, if not then HDD would be sufficient.
If you want recommendation of SSD then go to SSD thread instead. wink.gif


Added on



Somehow my another HD204UI is dead, sigh... what a let down, and 1 whole year of anime downloads  cry.gif
Recover half-way...  cry.gif  cry.gif
Clicking sound..
Download HD204UI clicking sound
... even has some dancing rhythm to it doh.gif
Recorded using Galaxy Note at 1 inch away from the HDD when running.
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post Aug 8 2012, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(Motorbaby @ Aug 8 2012, 04:07 PM)
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OMG that reputable Samsung drive doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
Back in few years ago it was remarkable reliable and cheap, but no more for now.
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QUOTE(lex @ Aug 7 2012, 11:41 PM)
Lots of course. Just backup those you think are best kept, the rest which are not so important can slowly backup later. I've had many CDRs and DVDRs survived for years. So far there are only very few brand/models CDRs and DVDRs that can be recommended (able to retain data very well), while the rest is junk. wink.gif
For smaller files, yes, backup to DVDs make sense. I would at least use BR for backup for larger files if I wanted to avoid backing up to hardisk. But even then, I would be very pissed with the speed

QUOTE(lex @ Aug 7 2012, 11:41 PM)
The problem with HDDs is that they can suddenly fail and all your "precious" goes to the grave with it. Unless you have two HDDs for redundancy (with identical data on both drives). icon_rolleyes.gif
We hear lots of people backing up BRs and DVDs to hardisk. So that is a silly thing to do eh?

QUOTE(everling @ Aug 8 2012, 01:19 AM)
This is the path I choose, two HDDs. It's very convenient to have everything available on disk and not having to mess with hundreds of DVDs. flex.gif
+1 Speed is king in this case.

QUOTE(everling @ Aug 8 2012, 01:19 AM)
I just hope that my rig won't get electrocuted. blush.gif I should look into a 2TB ext HDD for offline backup.
I don't see it as a problem if after backup, you disconnect the drive and put it away for safekeeping. Putting the drive online just subjects it to wear and tear.

QUOTE(everling @ Aug 8 2012, 01:19 AM)
2TB is equivalent to almost 400 4.7GB DVDs, and you'll probably need more than 400 DVDs to burn 2TB of anime because the files won't fit in nicely. With 3TB, it'll be equivalent to 600 DVDs, and 800 DVDs for 4TB (when they come out).
4TB are already out. Just not available here yet. sad.gif


Added on August 10, 2012, 5:18 pmDon't know if anybody noticed but apparently Toshiba will start making 3.5" drives of 1.5Tb, 2TB and 3TB using Hitachi's manufacturing facility in Shenzen that was acquired from WDC after WDC took over HGST. What you're getting is basically a Hitachi drive.

This is hell of a good news for storage consumers after a long while. rclxms.gif Don't have to rely on crappy WD and SG drives.

http://www.toshiba.co.jp/about/press/2012_08/pr0801.htm

This is the current Toshiba 1TB available in the market if I'm not mistaken;

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post Aug 10 2012, 10:17 PM

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Guys, a quick question.

I'll be getting 1TB Internal HDD 2molo. (Storage)
Any recommendation? The best that available in the market.

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QUOTE(Gen-X- @ Aug 10 2012, 10:17 PM)
Guys, a quick question.

I'll be getting 1TB Internal HDD 2molo. (Storage)
Any recommendation? The best that available in the market.
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