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post Jul 26 2013, 07:24 AM

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my car also got this tayar tanggal problem before.. stupid rear spindle problem..

gone to proton once on 2009, they said need to leave car.. i malas so i skip change (me 2nd owner)..

2012, bearing change twice in 3 month, magician say spindle problem.. go proton to change, they said claim already no more.. dammit.. it cost my lil bro in law nearly 500 if not mistaken.. he the one drive the car at that time.. me drive wifey car..

now waiting for the fuel pump to kaput.. ask my bro to change (rm400+), he insist..

waiting for him to drive and cant start later.. that's when he will cry.gif & realize, prevention is better then cure..

davidke20,
oh ya, what speed are you at during the wheel fly off?
the symptom is noisy bearing + awful burning metal/tire smell outside your car..

my lil bro got the fly off accident during a magician testing his car to find the culprit of noise and smell..

hope all other pre 2006 savvist go change the spindle now for better peace of mind..

*a week before the accident, my bro in law did 160kmh on that car chasing gtr35.. haha.. glad it did not happen during the crazy act.. sweat.gif


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post Jul 26 2013, 07:46 AM

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QUOTE(NOX @ Jul 26 2013, 07:24 AM)
my car also got this tayar tanggal problem before.. stupid rear spindle problem..

gone to proton once on 2009, they said need to leave car.. i malas so i skip change (me 2nd owner)..

2012, bearing change twice in 3 month, magician say spindle problem.. go proton to change, they said claim already no more.. dammit.. it cost my lil bro in law nearly 500 if not mistaken.. he the one drive the car at that time.. me drive wifey car..

now waiting for the fuel pump to kaput.. ask my bro to change (rm400+), he insist..

waiting for him to drive and cant start later.. that's when he will  cry.gif  & realize, prevention is better then cure..

davidke20,
oh ya, what speed are you at during the wheel fly off?
the symptom is noisy bearing + awful burning metal/tire smell outside your car..

my lil bro got the fly off accident during a magician testing his car to find the culprit of noise and smell..

hope all other pre 2006 savvist go change the spindle now for better peace of mind..

*a week before the accident,  my bro in law did 160kmh on that car chasing gtr35.. haha.. glad it did not happen during the crazy act..  sweat.gif
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I've been frequently changing bearings, almost once a month taking turns on both sides. Within 10 months ownership, I managed to spoil 6 bearings in total.

It was 120kph during the incident. No sign of bearing wear, suddenly heard metal grinding noise, probably less than 2 seconds before I managed to brake, and it car goes side ways and gymkhana started on Seremban Highway yawn.gif

Your car different than mine, ayam regular maintenance + petrol head. So, I really wasn't expect it to happen when I'm having hispeed cruising doh.gif
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post Jul 26 2013, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jul 26 2013, 07:46 AM)
I've been frequently changing bearings, almost once a month taking turns on both sides. Within 10 months ownership, I managed to spoil 6 bearings in total.

It was 120kph during the incident. No sign of bearing wear, suddenly heard metal grinding noise, probably less than 2 seconds before I managed to brake, and it car goes side ways and gymkhana started on Seremban Highway yawn.gif

Your car different than mine, ayam regular maintenance + petrol head. So, I really wasn't expect it to happen when I'm having hispeed cruising doh.gif
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the spindle problem is for which year model actually?
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post Jul 26 2013, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(gambrelq @ Jul 26 2013, 06:09 AM)
Go for manual la bang, less headache jgn pening kepala
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thanks boss tapi ini gf nak pakai...klang valley...susah kalau jam...thnks for the feedback though....appreciate it.....
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post Jul 26 2013, 01:04 PM

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holy shit.....no getting the savvy....change of plans...all other problems i can live with but the tyre cabut thing is the last straw....happy savvy-ing guys....
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post Jul 26 2013, 01:31 PM

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My kekura almost 9yrs bro,top speed 167kmh,corner still okay, haha time to replace my absorber n spring, pickup?pearghh mantop der

bad thing sometime are out of our control, yes mayb because of us n mayb not..

for me, enough time send to service, every 2 weeks at least giv him shower, push to limit every week.. Its d4f bro
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post Jul 26 2013, 01:33 PM

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Gf nak pakai? Cari option lain.. Myvi viva i10 alto.. Hahaha
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post Jul 26 2013, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(deity01 @ Jul 25 2013, 05:04 PM)
huh? i thought we only can choose goodyear because our UNIQUE tyre size?
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for ease of search, i change mine to 165/55/14, same size as viva. currently using nankang. will change to kumho or hankook when time come brows.gif
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post Jul 26 2013, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE(fixgd @ Jul 26 2013, 11:26 AM)
the spindle problem is for which year model actually?
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According to Plotong, 2006 and before. From what I saw, 2007 also affect. Some 2008 but not all. U sendiri see which type of spindle u have lar yawn.gif

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post Jul 26 2013, 07:01 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jul 26 2013, 06:55 PM)
According to Plotong, 2006 and before. From what I saw, 2007 also affect. Some 2008 but not all. U sendiri see which type of spindle u have lar yawn.gif

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ive read somewhere to solve this problem change to eterna brake system?
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post Jul 26 2013, 07:43 PM

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QUOTE(fixgd @ Jul 26 2013, 07:01 PM)
ive read somewhere to solve this problem change to eterna brake system?
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Apulgarage charge RM900++(below 1k) include labor to mod to Eterna. However, if got choice, it's highly recommended not to change to disc brake other than decoration. In order to mod disc brakes, one has to weld and drill mounting on the axle. You wouldn't know when it breaks in my opinion. As dangerous as having a tapered roller bearings.

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Up to you man.
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post Jul 26 2013, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jul 26 2013, 07:43 PM)
Apulgarage charge RM900++(below 1k) include labor to mod to Eterna. However, if got choice, it's highly recommended not to change to disc brake other than decoration. In order to mod disc brakes, one has to weld and drill mounting on the axle. You wouldn't know when it breaks in my opinion. As dangerous as having a tapered roller bearings.

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Up to you man.
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so in ur opinion, use back the same savvy brake? so both option have the tendency to break. haha
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post Jul 26 2013, 08:37 PM

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QUOTE(fixgd @ Jul 26 2013, 07:59 PM)
so in ur opinion, use back the same savvy brake? so both option have the tendency to break. haha
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Not Shawie brake. I changed to GaGa brakes.

2 x brake hub
2 x 2 pairs of bearings
2 x bearing clip
2 x bearing lock nut

The rest remain untouched. It's around RM1k. Brake shoes remain the same. Everything plug and play. Rest assured, it wouldn't break easily, more reliable bearing(designed for GaGa yo icon_rolleyes.gif ) and I have a peace of mind. Everything is brand new. Instead of spending 900++ for a pair of old disc brake from other car, which require to drill and welding on my axle. Ask yourself again, do you want a 2nd hand shinny disc rotor show to people? Or you want something plug and play, brand new? As I mentioned, the bearing size and spindle for Shawie is way smaller compare to GaGa(which designed to carry 56 durians). Your call.


Shawie spindle on the left, GaGa spindle on the right

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Shawie bearing on the left, GaGa bearing on the right

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post Jul 26 2013, 08:43 PM

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QUOTE(NOX @ Jul 26 2013, 07:24 AM)
my car also got this tayar tanggal problem before.. stupid rear spindle problem..

gone to proton once on 2009, they said need to leave car.. i malas so i skip change (me 2nd owner)..

2012, bearing change twice in 3 month, magician say spindle problem.. go proton to change, they said claim already no more.. dammit.. it cost my lil bro in law nearly 500 if not mistaken.. he the one drive the car at that time.. me drive wifey car..

now waiting for the fuel pump to kaput.. ask my bro to change (rm400+), he insist..

waiting for him to drive and cant start later.. that's when he will  cry.gif  & realize, prevention is better then cure..

davidke20,
oh ya, what speed are you at during the wheel fly off?
the symptom is noisy bearing + awful burning metal/tire smell outside your car..

my lil bro got the fly off accident during a magician testing his car to find the culprit of noise and smell..

hope all other pre 2006 savvist go change the spindle now for better peace of mind..

*a week before the accident,  my bro in law did 160kmh on that car chasing gtr35.. haha.. glad it did not happen during the crazy act..  sweat.gif
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Around 1k as your previous statement

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QUOTE(toshio14 @ Oct 11 2011, 02:36 PM)
my Savvy's rear bearing pecah last Sunday while I'm on my way back to KL from Kedah, right before the Bertam exit. called up Proton and PLUS but no answer, i'm not sure the fact that it was already close to 7 pm has anything to do with it but i do feel like keseorangan tanpa bantuan over there. luckily (or unluckily?) for me, there's a foremen who just happened to be on his way back from his workshop in Sungai Petani passed by. he helped me check on the damage and confirm that the bearing sudah pecah and the car need to be towed back to his workshop. fine la, what to do so follow only as it is already getting late. so cut story short both rear'r bearing were changed, and also the hub knuckle (dunno la i spell it correct or not) and overall charge was rm800++

on my way back to KL last night, it happened again near Bukit Beruntung exit. the very same sign and situation. so i just drove very slowly until i reach my house and sent it to workshop again this morning. apparently the left rear bearing (which was already replaced) rosak again. and i'm still waiting on the overall damages before making a call to the workshop in Sungai Petani

haihhzz...i love my Savvy. everybody was against me buying her when i did in 2008 but i bought her anyway; first love and all that la. but month after month (and hole after hole in my pocket) it sure feels like she's pushing me away in our relationship
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QUOTE(black_dragon @ Oct 9 2011, 01:22 AM)
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hi guys n gals,

just wanna share my experience with my savvy manual hi-line.
was driving along jln duta heading towards the toll , and the left rear wheel/ tyre COMPLETELY detached!!!!!!!!!! mad.gif
luckily did not hit anything and no one hit me! imagine its a bit like what u see when an f1 car loses a wheel!
skidding on the ground on 3 wheels..............
anyway managed to stop eventually by the roadside.
so shocked that i forgot to try and find the wayward wheel/tyre.
got a tow truck to tow to workshop; ended replacing all 4 rims with 2 nd hand ones, a new tyre! and also the rear hub / spindle etc. sighhhhhhhhhhh
i will post a pic soon as i can.
BTW, my car was sent to the Mutiara damansara sc for a check up when proton issued the recall.
Just wondering what i can do....... write to the Star ? complain consumer affairs tribunal?

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Oct 3 2012, 07:06 AM)
This 1 you mean?
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Reminds me I think I read it somewhere recently
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post Jul 27 2013, 01:26 AM

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hola guys.

im headed to renautek tomolo morning.
probably servis + change clutch cover.
anyone know how much if just cover/fullset?

preparing to tarik atm with chain to renautek oneshot too tongue.gif
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post Jul 27 2013, 02:06 AM

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QUOTE(pizzaboyj @ Jul 27 2013, 01:26 AM)
hola guys.

im headed to renautek tomolo morning.
probably servis + change clutch cover.
anyone know how much if just cover/fullset?

preparing to tarik atm with chain to renautek oneshot too tongue.gif
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Must change full set, doesn't sell only the cover yawn.gif Did mine for slightly less than 500 full set
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post Jul 27 2013, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jul 26 2013, 06:55 PM)
According to Plotong, 2006 and before. From what I saw, 2007 also affect. Some 2008 but not all. U sendiri see which type of spindle u have lar yawn.gif

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dear david,

icon_rolleyes.gif my car spindle head have safety pin. how come you replaced new spindle head no safety pin.? unsure.gif
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post Jul 27 2013, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jul 27 2013, 02:06 AM)
Must change full set, doesn't sell only the cover yawn.gif Did mine for slightly less than 500 full set
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dear david,
blink.gif actually u should change full set clutch, if changed clutch plate only, u have pay more next change in short period.

cry.gif some 4man change clutch plate only, 4man didn't change clutch cover and 4man bill u pay full set clutch.
u should check or stand there, see 4man change full set clutch or makan your clutch cover.

tongue.gif clutch cover wear off, is very hard change gear
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post Jul 27 2013, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(acerB314 @ Jul 27 2013, 09:10 AM)
dear david,

icon_rolleyes.gif my car spindle head have safety pin. how come you replaced new spindle head no safety pin.? unsure.gif
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I know
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Coz its GaGa's spindler
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QUOTE(acerB314 @ Jul 27 2013, 09:52 AM)
dear david,
blink.gif actually u should change full set clutch, if changed clutch plate only, u have pay more next change in short period.

cry.gif some 4man change clutch plate only, 4man didn't change clutch cover and 4man bill u pay full set clutch.
u should check or stand there, see 4man change full set clutch or makan your clutch cover.

tongue.gif clutch cover wear off, is very hard change gear
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I did

QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jun 22 2013, 09:41 AM)
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Have not heard of this brand. RM350.

Workmanship RM200.

Got my own discount, but will not disclose.
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jun 21 2013, 12:46 AM)
If you know what these picture means sleep.gif

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Suddenly loss power, RPM raise like if the transmission is in neutral. I was suspecting my clutch pad worn off, but it's was changed less than a year. And after spent 3 hours to detached the whole subframe + steering rack, only able to remove the transmission. Seeing the clutch cover spring already snapped. Now this is what Renautech always told me the cover will be gone way before the pad wear off doh.gif I had to leave the car at the shop since they're closing. Tomorrow will know the damage gonna costs cry.gif

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w33wawa, this is the fork that I mentioned before, which will make squeeking sound to the clutch pedal. The major culprit is

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It uses a round shape mounting as an apex point WITHOUT any bearing. The more you press the clutch, this fork will grind on the round mounting and you'll hear the squeeking sound more obvious sleep.gif design problem!
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RM5++ to replace clutch kit including labor charges is consider cheap..where is it davidke?

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