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Hunakadoo
post Jan 11 2012, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(Apple_DarreN @ Jan 11 2012, 06:12 PM)
Actually, you can ask a Lawyer to get back your property since your parents signed without acknowledgement.
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"In some point, he conned my parent to sign some legalize document to transfer all my parent assets to him which these all my parent last resource. In total 400k cash + current my parent house(500k)" From TS

I think from what Ts say , the animal has convince his parent to sign everythings document ( for doing business ) .
So even today his father has regret to sign , it's useless already for now to appoint a lawyer & fight back .....
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post Jan 11 2012, 06:37 PM

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QUOTE(MissIceRina @ Jan 11 2012, 06:36 PM)
after reading 8 pages...

...i'm surprised that /k/ hasn't even ask for TS bro pic at all
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i got ask
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post Jan 11 2012, 06:38 PM

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Tell ur mom, NO.

Tell ur mom he is a shit, and after such shits and she still want to help the beast?

and lodge report and sue him.


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post Jan 11 2012, 06:40 PM

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lodge report and consult lawyer, can say your parents were under undue influence and void the contract to get back the house.
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post Jan 11 2012, 06:44 PM

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QUOTE(Hunakadoo @ Jan 11 2012, 06:37 PM)
i got ask
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Sorry, I don't realise u asked me. Ok, I need 2 find the pic out.
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post Jan 11 2012, 06:47 PM

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QUOTE(Hunakadoo @ Jan 11 2012, 06:36 PM)
"In some point, he conned my parent to sign some legalize document to transfer all my parent assets to him which these all my parent last resource. In total 400k cash + current my parent house(500k)" From TS

I think from what Ts say , the animal has convince his parent to sign everythings document ( for doing business ) .
So even today his father has regret to sign , it's useless already for now to appoint a lawyer & fight back .....
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If TS parent willfully signed the document (which I believe they did, considering how much TS mother trust TS bro), then there is hardly any case.

It's not uncommon for parent to transfer ownership/title to their children when they get old.
Heck, my parent are going to do that soon.

The purpose of this is that in the event they pass away, their assets would not be frozen (gov will freeze it for 3-5 years i think).
Their sons and daughters would have immediate access to it instead (to pay for funeral, medical, etc)

This post has been edited by MissIceRina: Jan 11 2012, 06:48 PM
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post Jan 11 2012, 06:51 PM

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QUOTE(Hunakadoo @ Jan 11 2012, 06:37 PM)
i got ask
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Uncle, your siggy is starting to really annoy me.

Either rehost it on some other image-hosting site (i.e. Imgur) or remove it entirely.

Your broken-linked-siggy is making me scroll a lot.
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post Jan 11 2012, 06:52 PM

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QUOTE(MissIceRina @ Jan 11 2012, 06:51 PM)
Uncle, your siggy is starting to really annoy me.

Either rehost it on some other image-hosting site (i.e. Imgur) or remove it entirely.

Your broken-linked-siggy is making me scroll a lot.
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post Jan 11 2012, 06:54 PM

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legally ntg can be done...well i guess for now u can oni speed thing up in your new home..hmm...

then again bliv in karma bro..if one day he run out of money or in trouble he sure will find u...that day..it time to turn the table...
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why would u father transfer the house to him? soli din read all 9 pages
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post Jan 11 2012, 06:58 PM

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You can still sue him to get the property back. You just need to convince your parents to go with it. Your lawyer can argue on several grounds: that your father was of "unsound mind" at the time and was not aware of what he was doing. It doesn't matter if every neighbor and their dog knows your dad is perfectly fine, all he needs to do is convince the judge and a doctor.

Secondly, you can have a lawyer draft up a will and have it backdated. This means your father actually has willed everything to you (and/or your mother) before your brother's agreement. Your lawyer have ample grounds to fight, such as your brother is unfit to take care of your parents (does your brother have a criminal record? Is he a declared bankrupt?).

Thirdly, where are your relatives?

Even if such measures might not give you the outcome you wanted, you and your lawyer can very easily "freeze" the assets and tie it up in legal limbo for months if not years. Eventually he would need to come to you to settle it. Make sure you have trustworthy friends/relatives with you when he does.




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QUOTE(ray123 @ Jan 11 2012, 07:58 PM)
You can still sue him to get the property back. You just need to convince your parents to go with it. Your lawyer can argue on several grounds: that your father was of "unsound mind" at the time and was not aware of what he was doing. It doesn't matter if every neighbor and their dog knows your dad is perfectly fine, all he needs to do is convince the judge and a doctor.

Secondly, you can have a lawyer draft up a will and have it backdated. This means your father actually has willed everything to you (and/or your mother) before your brother's agreement. Your lawyer have ample grounds to fight, such as your brother is unfit to take care of your parents (does your brother have a criminal record?).

Thirdly, where are your relatives?
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but his brother is animal ! crazy 1 ! if get back house from him the only way is hiding yourself if not he may will kacao him kao kao
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QUOTE(leoyew @ Jan 11 2012, 07:00 PM)
but his brother is animal ! crazy 1 ! if get back house from him the only way is hiding yourself if not he may will kacao him kao kao
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Many people would suggest fight fire with fire and/or stand up to him to stop the bullying, but unfortunately this is the real world and bullies often win. The only real recourse to cause as much legal inconvenience as possible, even bullies can't ignore it forever. Should any harm come to you in the mean time, it only makes your case even more convincing.
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post Jan 11 2012, 07:05 PM

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QUOTE(ray123 @ Jan 11 2012, 08:03 PM)
Many people would suggest fight fire with fire and/or stand up to him to stop the bullying, but unfortunately this is the real world and bullies often win. The only real recourse to cause as much legal inconvenience as possible, even bullies can't ignore it forever. Should any harm come to you in the mean time, it only makes your case even more convincing.
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your means risk his life and use legal to stop his brother?
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post Jan 11 2012, 07:07 PM

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Hehe should tell him to continue staying at new house. I want to see how long can you stand.
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I feel sorry for you while reading your thread.. But cant help any things.. Just can give you mental support rclxms.gif .. May god bless you..

Btw, I saw some reply said wait for karma.. Bullshit.. There is only karma if u take action on it..

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QUOTE(zeist @ Jan 11 2012, 08:07 PM)
Hehe should tell him to continue staying at new house. I want to see how long can you stand.
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rclxms.gif may loss more money to repairing car / house
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QUOTE(leoyew @ Jan 11 2012, 07:05 PM)
your means risk his life and use legal to stop his brother?
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It's all up to him really. Posting here on the net asking for help already means he's desperate.
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post Jan 11 2012, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(ray123 @ Jan 11 2012, 06:58 PM)
You can still sue him to get the property back. You just need to convince your parents to go with it. Your lawyer can argue on several grounds: that your father was of "unsound mind" at the time and was not aware of what he was doing. It doesn't matter if every neighbor and their dog knows your dad is perfectly fine, all he needs to do is convince the judge and a doctor.

Secondly, you can have a lawyer draft up a will and have it backdated. This means your father actually has willed everything to you (and/or your mother) before your brother's agreement. Your lawyer have ample grounds to fight, such as your brother is unfit to take care of your parents (does your brother have a criminal record? Is he a declared bankrupt?).

Thirdly, where are your relatives?

Even if such measures might not give you the outcome you wanted, you and your lawyer can very easily "freeze" the assets and tie it up in legal limbo for months if not years. Eventually he would need to come to you to settle it. Make sure you have trustworthy friends/relatives with you when he does.
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If TS bro goes by my post argument, there is nothing his parent can do as well.

QUOTE(MissIceRina @ Jan 11 2012, 06:47 PM)
If TS parent willfully signed the document (which I believe they did, considering how much TS mother trust TS bro), then there is hardly any case.

It's not uncommon for parent to transfer ownership/title to their children when they get old.
Heck, my parent are going to do that soon.

The purpose of this is that in the event they pass away, their assets would not be frozen (gov will freeze it for 3-5 years i think).
Their sons and daughters would have immediate access to it instead (to pay for funeral, medical, etc)
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And also, he would have to be tested by a trained and qualified psychologist. And it's unlike it he would pass unless there is strong reason for him to be mentally "unsound" in the first place.
Besides, this are argument is not a strong evidence 'cos it's circumstantial. Otherwise, everyone would start claiming their are mentally "unsound"

I believe it would be illegally to a lawyer to backdate a will just like that.
At present, they no longer own the property. I.e. Your can't just simply sell something to A and then claim that you already sold it to B earlier.

Their relatives has no right to intervene in their family matter and are just as powerless as us.

TS could try to make it hard for his bro, but remember, his bro can easily just as well make it hard for TS.
This can be seen when TS bro ask 3 people to break down his door.
Who knows what else he is willing to do (he even kicked his parent out)
And aside from the financial cost, it would also break TS mom heart.

This post has been edited by MissIceRina: Jan 11 2012, 07:15 PM
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post Jan 11 2012, 07:17 PM

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QUOTE(anti@ @ Jan 11 2012, 04:36 PM)
report police or michael chong
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btw..ur animal sounded like my animal too..ppl like these reli shld die 1st



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