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post Feb 23 2012, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Feb 21 2012, 03:53 PM)
You are right the engine run all the time but there is a technology in Insight honda uses in the Accord V6 3.5 that is VCM... but insted like V6 that auto shut off 3 out of 6 cylinder Insight uses VCM to turn all all 4 cylinder in EV mode meaning the engine move but no fuel go in and no combustion... but power loss still there as the Electric motor still turn the engine which is not really required...

In Hybrid world there is no Mild/full hybrid there is parallel and Part hybrid...

let me explain

Parallel Hybrid is what Insight uses

it basically sandwitch the IMA motor in between Engine and Gearbox hence it is called parallel or Full time hybrid (you cannot dis engage either of them the both hybrid need to work fulltime to work)

HSD or Part Hybrid is what Toyota uses

it basically insted of a paralles setup it put in another planatery gearbox which disengage the ICE or Electric motor or uses both it is at the moment the most efficient hybrid as you dont get power loss like parallel hybrid

Some confusion like 4WD... it is the same shit and confuse used in 4WD world... in 4WD world part 4WD is better than fulltime 4WD

and in hybrid HSD or part hybrid is the best setup as the car can decide which to run or both and not forced to run both fulltime...

so let put it this way FULL HYBRID is SALESMAN BULLSHIT!!! (Mainly toyota salesman lah)

Toyota HSD uses part hybrid and Honda uses Full hybrid but since uncle think full hybrid is better toyota salesman quickly twist the fact...!!! ouch...
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inferior technology means inferior technology la...what some more u want to TC?
Honda Insight's biggest selling point as a hybrid is the price alone...if a person has money and has slightly more brains than yourself, Prius is the clear choice...

congratulations, you are the most stupid person in this LYN forum i think...
you have reached the level of Jessie Ooi, the Selayang BN coordinator...
if this thread was a televised event, you would find yourself insinuated with messages calling you all kinds of unsavory names, deservedly so too...
not even Honda salesman dares to twist and try sell such bullshit to its customers...while you have shamelessly sneaked in the term full hybrid into Honda's IMA equation...wonder-f***ing-fool indeed...

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post Feb 23 2012, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(infi_nity @ Feb 23 2012, 03:47 PM)
inferior technology means inferior technology la...what some more u want to TC?
Honda Insight's biggest selling point as a hybrid is the price alone...if a person has money and has slightly more brains than yourself, Prius is the clear choice...

congratulations, you are the most stupid person in this LYN forum i think...
you have reached the level of Jessie Ooi, the Selayang BN coordinator...
if this thread was a televised event, you would find yourself insinuated with messages calling you all kinds of unsavory names, deservedly so too...
not even Honda salesman dares to twist and try sell such bullshit to its customers...while you have shamelessly sneaked in the term full hybrid into Honda's IMA equation...wonder-f***ing-fool indeed...
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TS has said Honda IMA is design on basic and saving cost... now Prius C even cheaper.. donna wat to say liao.. created all kind of own term.. "part hybrid"... sweat.gif sweat.gif

to me, Honda Hybrid system still got miles to catch Toyota..
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post Feb 23 2012, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(infi_nity @ Feb 23 2012, 03:47 PM)
inferior technology means inferior technology la...what some more u want to TC?
Honda Insight's biggest selling point as a hybrid is the price alone...if a person has money and has slightly more brains than yourself, Prius is the clear choice...

congratulations, you are the most stupid person in this LYN forum i think...
you have reached the level of Jessie Ooi, the Selayang BN coordinator...
if this thread was a televised event, you would find yourself insinuated with messages calling you all kinds of unsavory names, deservedly so too...
not even Honda salesman dares to twist and try sell such bullshit to its customers...while you have shamelessly sneaked in the term full hybrid into Honda's IMA equation...wonder-f***ing-fool indeed...
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Sigh... I did not say Honda IMA approach is the best... I always stress Toyota HSD is the best... duh... read nicely this is the reason stupid people never bother to read all... hence stupid...

IMA is always a IMA laaa Motor Assist thats all... hence Parallel Hybrid why Parallel cause the setup is link in parallel Engine--IMA Motor--Gearbox
it cannot be separated and both must spin together (Hence a Full link hybrid) not like HSD where the ECU can decide to stop and un-link the Motor/Engine form one another or operate both together (Hence Synergy the name) Also Part hybrid.... alot of people think Full hybrid the best but technology proven this type of full time hybrid has alot of energy loss... why move a engine when you are not using it... but by doing this it is very much like a normal car engine.. except you add a IMA motor between it.. hence when you look at Honda Japan Website you have tons of Hybrid option

like Hybrid Freed / Hybrid Jazz / Hybrid Spike / Hybrid... well basically all the L series engine can be fitted a IMA... so in Honda japan not really a bad idea after all only Malaysia we do not get the full range of Honda offering and limit us to only few hybrid model

http://www.honda.co.jp/auto/

Toyota HSD is AWESOME tech but it is specialize to certain car model (correct me)
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post Feb 23 2012, 04:19 PM

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Stop those Term u created urself "Full Link Hybrid" to imply that is a Full Hybrid... and stop creating "part hybrid" to make more forumers confuses...

seriously, base on what u said you don't even understand the word Parallel sweat.gif sweat.gif
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post Feb 23 2012, 04:25 PM

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explain then

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post Feb 23 2012, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Feb 23 2012, 04:15 PM)
Sigh... I did not say Honda IMA approach is the best... I always stress Toyota HSD is the best... duh... read nicely this is the reason stupid people never bother to read all... hence stupid...

IMA is always a IMA laaa Motor Assist thats all... hence Parallel Hybrid why Parallel cause the setup is link in parallel Engine--IMA Motor--Gearbox
it cannot be separated and both must spin together (Hence a Full link hybrid) not like HSD where the ECU can decide to stop and un-link the Motor/Engine form one another or operate both together (Hence Synergy the name) Also Part hybrid.... alot of people think Full hybrid the best but technology proven this type of full time hybrid has alot of energy loss... why move a engine when you are not using it... but by doing this it is very much like a normal car engine.. except you add a IMA motor between it.. hence when you look at Honda Japan Website you have tons of Hybrid option

like Hybrid Freed / Hybrid Jazz / Hybrid Spike / Hybrid... well basically all the L series engine can be fitted a IMA... so in Honda japan not really a bad idea after all only Malaysia we do not get the full range of Honda offering and limit us to only few hybrid model

http://www.honda.co.jp/auto/

Toyota HSD is AWESOME tech but it is specialize to certain car model (correct me)
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Don't call me stupid, you Jessie Ooi clone...
you think everyone stupid like u ar??
u said Honda's hybrid is a FULL Hybrid...you did not say FULL LINK hybrid...
got difference between the two terms ok???

"Toyota HSD is AWESOME tech but it is specialize to certain car model (correct me)"
are u trying to suggest that HSD wont work well unless in a Prius??
you are a fool...
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post Feb 23 2012, 04:56 PM

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then correct me smile.gif see stupid (did not even read the braket) I ress my case
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post Feb 23 2012, 05:04 PM

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i think at the moment , best hybrid ever.....

at least it is nice to look at

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post Feb 23 2012, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Feb 23 2012, 04:56 PM)
then correct me smile.gif see stupid (did not even read the braket) I ress my case
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I am correcting you, hence the phrase "you are a fool..."



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think at the moment , best hybrid ever.....

at least it is nice to look at

the best hybrid should be out in 2013 which is BMW's i8 featured in the movie Mission Impossible recently...
0-100km in 4.7 seconds and has a FC or 3l/100km...
now that is what we call technology!
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post Feb 23 2012, 06:32 PM

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post Feb 23 2012, 07:04 PM

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Just paid a visit to Subang Toyota showroom, saw an orange color Prius C already display in the show room, but it is not allowed to perform test drive, test drive is only available in March.

My First impression

The prius is definitely bigger than Myvi, it is not like Myvi which is fat and short feeling (No offend to Myvi fan, just personal feeling), the body shape is more streamline than Myvi.

Cabin space is slightly bigger than Myvi, but feeling not as wide as Vios, back seat leg room is quite good, I'm 172cm and it still has around 8-10cm space when sit in the back seat, head room also pretty ok, felt like still has 8-10cm space in between. however, it is still a small car, fit in five persons will be very tight!

Dashboard is kinda simple, quality feel like so so only hmm.gif Prius is way better than it.

Build quality looks good and solid.

The only disappointing part is the hybrid battery warranty, it is only 1 year warranty, *** !!! doh.gif car itself is 3 years or 100,000KM warranty.

Retail price is 94,307 without insurance, those who has 55% NCD will only need to pay 95,5xx to own this car.

Maintenance is 1K,5K,10K,20K,30K interval, maintenance cost is around RM100+ per service.

so overall, it is for single or young guy who doesn't have big family, wanna try the high tech driving and save the earth, don't mind the small boot space and interior, than it is the car that can seriously consider.

The waiting list of this car is currently around 3 months, I paid a RM800 booking fee (fullly refundable), if test drive is good, will get it in May/June.

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post Feb 23 2012, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(Kiding @ Feb 23 2012, 07:04 PM)
Just paid a visit to Subang Toyota showroom, saw an orange color Prius C already display in the show room, but it is not allowed to perform test drive, test drive is only available in March.

My First impression

The prius is definitely bigger than Myvi, it is not like Myvi which is fat and short feeling (No offend to Myvi fan, just personal feeling), the body shape is more streamline than Myvi.

Cabin space is slightly bigger than Myvi, but feeling not as wide as Vios, back seat leg room is quite good, I'm 172cm and it still has around 8-10cm space when sit in the back seat, head room also pretty ok, felt like still has 8-10cm space in between. however, it is still a small car, fit in five persons will be very tight!

Dashboard is kinda simple, quality feel like so so only  hmm.gif  Prius is way better than it.

Build quality looks good and solid.

The only disappointing part is the hybrid battery warranty, it is only 1 year warranty, *** !!!  doh.gif car itself is 3 years or 100,000KM warranty.

Retail price is 94,307 without insurance, those who has 55% NCD will only need to pay 95,5xx to own this car.

Maintenance is 1K,5K,10K,20K,30K interval, maintenance cost is around RM100+ per service.

so overall, it is for single or young guy who doesn't have big family, wanna try the high tech driving and save the earth, don't mind the small boot space and interior, than it is the car that can seriously consider.

The waiting list of this car is currently around 3 months, I paid a RM800 booking fee (fullly refundable), if test drive is good, will get it in May/June.
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Congrats bro... Wat is ur colour? Yes agree wt u.. Definitely good for single... thumbup.gif

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post Feb 23 2012, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(Kiding @ Feb 23 2012, 07:04 PM)
Just paid a visit to Subang Toyota showroom, saw an orange color Prius C already display in the show room, but it is not allowed to perform test drive, test drive is only available in March.

My First impression

The prius is definitely bigger than Myvi, it is not like Myvi which is fat and short feeling (No offend to Myvi fan, just personal feeling), the body shape is more streamline than Myvi.

Cabin space is slightly bigger than Myvi, but feeling not as wide as Vios, back seat leg room is quite good, I'm 172cm and it still has around 8-10cm space when sit in the back seat, head room also pretty ok, felt like still has 8-10cm space in between. however, it is still a small car, fit in five persons will be very tight!

Dashboard is kinda simple, quality feel like so so only  hmm.gif  Prius is way better than it.

Build quality looks good and solid.

The only disappointing part is the hybrid battery warranty, it is only 1 year warranty, *** !!!  doh.gif car itself is 3 years or 100,000KM warranty.

Retail price is 94,307 without insurance, those who has 55% NCD will only need to pay 95,5xx to own this car.

Maintenance is 1K,5K,10K,20K,30K interval, maintenance cost is around RM100+ per service.

so overall, it is for single or young guy who doesn't have big family, wanna try the high tech driving and save the earth, don't mind the small boot space and interior, than it is the car that can seriously consider.

The waiting list of this car is currently around 3 months, I paid a RM800 booking fee (fullly refundable), if test drive is good, will get it in May/June.
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Battery warranty only one year ?? then i dun consider to buy shakehead.gif Why Toyota have no confident on their battery build ??? What is the battery cost ahh.. ?
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Feb 23 2012, 08:09 PM)
Congrats bro...  Wat is ur colour?  Yes agree wt u.. Definitely good for single...  thumbup.gif
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I book the silver color, initially wanna get the white one, but the lime white pearl color need to add RM800, day light robbery meh! shakehead.gif shocking.gif

QUOTE(2323 @ Feb 23 2012, 08:53 PM)
Battery warranty only one year ?? then i dun consider to buy  shakehead.gif  Why Toyota have no confident on their battery build ??? What is the battery cost ahh.. ?
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Prius hybrid battery is RM11.5K, SA told me that Prius C is slightly cheaper than it. everytime when ask the hybrid battery questions, they will try to avoid to answer, UMW looks like no confident for the hybrid battery!

However, Prius battery cost is around RM5K in Taiwan, so if there is such a huge price gap, I believe people will try to bring in the "water set".
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QUOTE(Kiding @ Feb 23 2012, 09:36 PM)
I book the silver color, initially wanna get the white one, but the lime white pearl color need to add RM800, day light robbery meh!  shakehead.gif  shocking.gif
Prius hybrid battery is RM11.5K, SA told me that Prius C is slightly cheaper than it. everytime when ask the hybrid battery questions, they will try to avoid to answer, UMW looks like no confident for the hybrid battery!

However, Prius battery cost is around RM5K in Taiwan, so if there is such a huge price gap, I believe people will try to bring in the "water set".
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electrical modification ......dont play play. car might caughtfire
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post Feb 23 2012, 10:00 PM

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QUOTE(Kiding @ Feb 23 2012, 09:36 PM)
I book the silver color, initially wanna get the white one, but the lime white pearl color need to add RM800, day light robbery meh!  shakehead.gif  shocking.gif
Prius hybrid battery is RM11.5K, SA told me that Prius C is slightly cheaper than it. everytime when ask the hybrid battery questions, they will try to avoid to answer, UMW looks like no confident for the hybrid battery!

However, Prius battery cost is around RM5K in Taiwan, so if there is such a huge price gap, I believe people will try to bring in the "water set".
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Think Taiwan should have their own battery.... Oh ya.. If I remember correctly, local battery tax/duty is pretty high here...
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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Feb 23 2012, 09:41 PM)
electrical modification ......dont play play. car might caughtfire
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maybe he means parallel import of the original item. (not fake water type)
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Feb 23 2012, 10:10 PM)
maybe he means parallel import of the original item. (not fake water type)
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biggrin.gif still scary....engine oil also got fake one .
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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Feb 23 2012, 10:12 PM)
biggrin.gif still scary....engine oil also got fake one .
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Yala... Even car also got fake 1.. Fake merc , fake crv from mainland.... N fake lancer here... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Feb 23 2012, 10:12 PM)
biggrin.gif still scary....engine oil also got fake one .
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fake lancer scary or not? laugh.gif

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