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post Jan 18 2012, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(5p3ak @ Jan 18 2012, 07:05 PM)
Go make a WTS thread for your epic?  icon_idea.gif
@ALL: What are your thoughts on 15" hats?  hmm.gif
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Hmm, Never used 15s before, but I've heard 16's before.
I dunno lah, not really my thing. smile.gif I'll stick with my 13s and 14s.


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post Jan 19 2012, 07:01 PM

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I'm really getting annoyed with our local music stores. The stuff that they don't generally bring in all the time, they're lazy to go and find out the cost.

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Anyway, to me it seems as though our local shops really aren't very interested in going through the hassle of bringing in a special high-end kit or the like, even for a special order. Really, in Malaysia, when was the last time you saw a Pearl Reference, Tama Starclassic, Yamaha Recording Custom, Mapex Orion, Ludwig Classic Maple, DW Professional kit being displayed in a store for sale?

Even when I sell kits, I generally tend to focus on the low-midrange market, because that is all that our friends here have in stock most of the time. Everything else, 6 months or longer wait. Is this the reason why we don't really have nice gear around Msia?

I think most of the shops we have here nowadays don't know the real meaning of the word: service.
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post Jan 20 2012, 07:51 PM

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QUOTE(WintersuN @ Jan 20 2012, 02:08 PM)
Is only for drums. Not many store carry good drum stuff in store. Usually they just meh~

If guitar they will really serious cos market is big
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Drums market is also booming, but won't grown so much if the system continues this way.


QUOTE(sarvinG @ Jan 20 2012, 03:01 PM)
Seems like Bentley fcuked me up. Yesterday I called and confirm they said that they are offering me the ZHT pro. Just now I call and ask about some other stuff and to confirm my kit, they said they are giving me the zxt rock set.

I was like whuutt. Broke my heart man. But they said to give me the ZHT pro including the kit for a slight higher price. Dissapointed for that. But I guess even with the zxt rock set, it seems A pretty good deal.
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I ordered a kit from them last time with two FLOOR toms and instead they gave me one floor tom and one mounted rack tom. 6 months to replace order, I just took this one lah.

QUOTE(zzzxtreme @ Jan 20 2012, 04:27 PM)
wow bentley. i'd rather drive all the way to singapore to buy high-end kit, get good service, pay 10% tax, drive the way all back to KL, and still save few thousands of ringgit
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Hmm.. Singaporean service is also much better. With some of my guitar gear (for myself and customers), I sometimes go down to Singapore and grab the gear, even if it's around the same price as it ought to be in Malaysia cause of service, faster response, etc.

But I can agree that some retailers are pretty good. So far, the only company that I've bought from that is a main distributor for drums, for drum items, happily, with no problems at all, prompt replies and even though the prices are starting to creep up wink.gif is JS lorh.



Anyway, I've got a friend selling a Tama Superstar Custom shell pack for RM3.5k, and I'm selling my Ludwig Epic (with no snare) for RM3k. smile.gif

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post Jan 21 2012, 06:11 PM

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QUOTE(boiboi95 @ Jan 21 2012, 05:29 PM)
Any feedback from any Yamaha drum set users?
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1. Don't get the Gigmaker, it's a waste of money. Top up a bit more and get at least a Pearl Vision or Ludwig Epic smile.gif

Anyway, now we're past that, we can talk about the relative awesomeness of Yamaha drums. HAHAHAHA!

The Stage Custom is a pretty solid set. It's got punch and power and is a pretty good all rounder set.

Next up, the only one I've got experience with other than those two, is the Yamaha Oak Custom. Terrific response and the output is just crazy. And the tone is <3 HAHAHAHAHA!
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QUOTE(Jenglot @ Jan 21 2012, 06:58 PM)
Thinking of switching to Paiste....any paiste user here? Thinking of getting 2002 series... John bonham wannabe smile.gif
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I have played Paiste before, but as you guys ought to know, I'm a Sabian person tongue.gif

The 2002 series is pretty cool smile.gifI like the 2020s though. biggrin.gifD

QUOTE(boiboi95 @ Jan 21 2012, 07:32 PM)
for the gigmaker? why do you say so?
Ah, Stage Custom and Oak Custom is too much for me  blink.gif  blink.gif , might go for surveys for Ludwig epic standard kit smile.gif
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Because the price is already rather high for an entry level kit. Just top up a bit more and go for a midrange kit liao smile.gif

And from a purely tonal POV, it's really not that great. x)

The Epic? If you're interested, PM me. I'm selling a used kit, and I also deal new ones.
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post Jan 21 2012, 09:45 PM

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QUOTE(boiboi95 @ Jan 21 2012, 08:06 PM)
Thanks for the feedback, greatly appreciated it biggrin.gif

@isaacmiranda7, i wont be buying any drum set so soon until my new house is completed its renovation, and it could take months :/ , so next time maybe, but still can you pm me the price new 1st handed standard 5 pcs kit with hardwares and crashes? wanna know the price range of it
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The best part about the Ludwig Element and Epic kits is that, when you buy a 5pc, they give you one free tom x) So yeah. Epic,
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QUOTE(Jenglot @ Jan 21 2012, 09:33 PM)
Just bought myself the 2002 17" crash... The twenties sounds too dark for me.. And you knowlah B***.. Where got complete range... Manage to
Tried the K hybrid but not really my cup of tea... Was looking for sabian's, but yamaha stock now only the
Lower end.. Most highend one at their dealer but was wayy too overprice... Have u guys been to ls music wangsa walk.. Their sabian collection is quite good but price was mahal laa.....
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LS Music WW isn't the main branch cause they're just dealers mahh kan? xD
Yeah, for a lot of stuff now, esp. relating to drums, can't try locally, have to order from overseas. :/

Walked past a TV earlier with a local band playing, using Orange amps and DW drums biggrin.gif The kit was sexy.
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QUOTE(boiboi95 @ Jan 21 2012, 10:14 PM)
woah,the price is epic too :/ its a okay.jpg for me sad.gif, hmm if free toms, wouldn't it make it a 6pcs? oh man, gotta find 2nd hand epic d, in the meantime gotta start collect MOAR MONEY
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I have a used kit wink.gif
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QUOTE(Namqul @ Jan 22 2012, 03:29 PM)
Sadly, people here likes to inquire about many things but when it comes to buying, they'll end up saying, I'll definitely buy it if I have the money. It is an advantage to  know someone from a shop or until the point that they know you personally, then your inquiries will be much easier.

As for high end kits, let say as a dealer, you can sell 1 high end kit in a year and makes a profit of 2k. For the low ends you can sell 24 kits in a year with a profit of RM300 per set. Because of that, I think its reasonable not to stock of the high end ones.

Keep it in mind, regular people doesn't give much attention on drums. It's a challenging area to do business so, just try to be patience and give them the support they need.
They even have Terry Bozzios's Radia! Price is a bit high tho.


Added on January 22, 2012, 3:32 pmP/S: My 18inch Tom finally arrives. Maybe I'll post an update picture after everything is set up nicely.
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I know what you mean smile.gif But still, it doesn't mean that they should totally ignore the high end market, because we do have quite a few good drummers here who do want to get good sets smile.gif

I remember going into Bentleys a while back, and they didn't even have a Masters, Reference or Starclassic set up tongue.gif Now I think they have a 4 pc Starclassic laaa but anyway, that's besides the point. if you put something in a shop, people WILL work towards it. They WILL say, someday, I want to get that kit. Now we have people saying that about Tama Superstars aje. xD
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QUOTE(Namqul @ Jan 22 2012, 04:38 PM)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiFO-J67_Bc

Saw this just now. Can't wait for it to be available for purchase!
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I'll get it as well!
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QUOTE(boiboi95 @ Jan 22 2012, 08:44 PM)
as i said i need to wait several months for me new house to be completed then only can get a new set, so cant get the set from you cause there is no place for me to store sad.gif (but still can i know how much are you selling for the set?, just wanna know the price range for 2nd hand, if you don't mind, if  you are mind its okay, thanks in advance)

By the way, early happy CNY wish to all LYN drummers biggrin.gif
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Mine is a pretty new kit, cause I only used it for ONE recording, so yeah smile.gif RM3k.
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post Jan 23 2012, 10:56 PM

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Too. Many. Sales. tongue.gif

Anyway, to bring the DRUMMING back into this thread;

Recently, I've been listening to a lot of music like Periphery, Animals as Leaders and Threat Signal, mostly because of their guitarists (recently, I've been focusing a lot more on my guitar work, since I can play/record at home, whereas I can't with drums) and as usual, slowly I started drifting towards their drummers, and I've realised something; which is that all (or most) of these incredibly complex drummers, play open handed and can lead with both sides, on both left and right, hands and feet. Basically, ambidextrous.

Personally, I've never taken the idea of open handed drumming very seriously in my own playing, except for some rare use when I'm playing blast beats or when I'm playing intricate ride patterns and I use hats on both hands to spice the accents and dynamics up. However, after watching all these drummers, some barely a few years older than me, doing all this crazy stuff, I've impressed on myself that I need to go and try to master this art of open handed ambidextrous drumming. How I'll be able to practice, I have no idea. But I'll start with trying some basic beats at my next band practice.

Basically, I feel that playing open handed may open up some leeway in your playing, and being able to lead with all your limbs will definitely do wonders for your playing; four way coordination, anyway tongue.gif

For those of you that are new to the concept, here are some examples:

Alex Rudinger



Carter Beauford



Travis Orbin



We've also got a couple of Malaysian drummers who do this, I can't remember who though. :/
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QUOTE(brokenbomb @ Jan 24 2012, 02:34 AM)
jenglot - hurm..tempting..haha

im also selling!
sabian xs20 hi hat- rm500
yamaha dfp9500d double pedal direct drive- rm1300 (can trade with pearl p2002b double juga. hehe)
zildjian a thin crash - rm650

price is still negotiable la. hehe.

open handed? used to try it back at my early drumming days, but instructor didnt encourage much about it and last2 tukar balik. haha. mister don famularo has a nice video tutorial on it at vicfirth.com might go check it out. biggrin.gif
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@brokenbomb Wanna trade your Yammies with my Iron Cobra? smile.gif I wanna try using direct drive more.


@5p3ak - why have to rearrange your kit? :/
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QUOTE(brokenbomb @ Jan 24 2012, 09:21 PM)
Belt drive? Mau trade..haha
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No la bro :/ Not belt. Double chain drive. Portnoy guna punye tongue.gif HAHAHAHA!
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QUOTE(brokenbomb @ Jan 24 2012, 10:04 PM)
Hmm..if elim ok la. Haha wanna think abt it 1st
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Ahh okay xD If you want the Cobras, let me know smile.gif
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QUOTE(leadaxer @ Jan 26 2012, 04:18 PM)
Any drummers here use low-volume drumsticks for their practice session?

e.g Lidwish Ultra Tones
http://lidwishsoulutions.com/
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Hmm... looks interesting. Heh. I might just buy one set of them biggrin.gifD

Anyway, just found a set of IVA drum mics that I bought when I got my kit, never used them though xD HAHAHAHA. Immaculate condition, selling for RM700, with a retail price of nearly RM1.2k according to CM music. Any takers? Willing to trade as well.

Two condensers, one large diaphragm, and four moving dynamic coil mics, with four mic clips!
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I think I'm letting go of EVERYTHING I have lah, at the rate things are going. I'm selling my Ludwig kick pedal for RM200, and my Iron Cobras for RM800. If you're interested, let me know. I also have a couple of new sets of the Yamaha DFP9415 (the precursor to the Flying Dragon) lying around in my friends store, and it's clearing for RM1200, when the retail was RM2150 smile.gif

Do let me know if you want it!


Anyway, about those silent sticks, I'm planning to get a pair when I convert my room into a studio, so as not to disturb the neighbours. Anyone wanna bulk?


Added on January 29, 2012, 5:00 pmI think I'm letting go of EVERYTHING I have lah, at the rate things are going. I'm selling my Ludwig kick pedal for RM200, and my Iron Cobras for RM800. If you're interested, let me know. I also have a couple of new sets of the Yamaha DFP9415 (the precursor to the Flying Dragon) lying around in my friends store, and it's clearing for RM1200, when the retail was RM2150 smile.gif

Do let me know if you want it!


Anyway, about those silent sticks, I'm planning to get a pair when I convert my room into a studio, so as not to disturb the neighbours. Anyone wanna bulk?

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QUOTE(5p3ak @ Jan 29 2012, 08:10 PM)
Why suddenly letting go of EVERYTHING?! ohmy.gif cry.gif
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Everything, EXCEPT MY CYMBALS! And my snare. tongue.gif AHAHAHA! The snare WILL be the next to go though. In fact, I'll post it up after I sell my mics or something so that I have enough to get another decent snare.



On a side note, I have managed to negotiate some prices with a certain company for my next set of drums (presuming I sell my Epic), and the prices are awesome! biggrin.gif I'm so excited. And its not the companies that I've hinted before. tongue.gif Its something else, something I wouldn't have considered until up to a few months ago. But it certainly seems like an amazing set, and lots of pro players do play it smile.gif


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QUOTE(5p3ak @ Jan 31 2012, 07:06 AM)
Lots of pro players play it?  hmm.gif Isit Saturns? Or Collectors? Maybe Mapleworks?  hmm.gif
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NYEHEHEHEHE. Help me sell my kit, and you'll find out sooner rather than later tongue.gif HAHAHAHA!
But good guesses. GOOD GUESSES.

Anyway, selling my Pearl Piccolo now also. Got my eye on a sexy little Black Panther. tongue.gif

Pearl, 13 x3, going for RM400.

QUOTE(brokenbomb @ Jan 31 2012, 07:06 PM)
kalaula craviotto ah..
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QUOTE(5p3ak @ Feb 1 2012, 05:05 PM)
Black Panther  drool.gif ...which one?  hmm.gif
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Not sure if local Mapex has in stock. The 13 x 6 Maple/Walnut one from the 2010 collection, I think.

I need to sell some more of my stuff first before I can buy it lahh. But as soon as I do, here I come! And I may not be purchasing the Saturns anymore. (Yes, they were Saturns xD) because the price that GC quoted me was apparently without the shipping costs and taxes, so, something that was already expensive will get even more expensive, and I may not be able to afford that. smile.gif

Which also means that I may not get the Black Panther now, and perhaps I'll stick with Ludwig or something, if I can get a good deal.
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QUOTE(5p3ak @ Feb 1 2012, 08:05 PM)
GC no stock for saturns meh? NEED Tax somemore?!  shocking.gif
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Nope, like I was ranting a few pages ago, out local places never stock high end drums. HAHAHAHA!
So, its like a one-off basis. I might be getting used drums now from overseas, since I'll have to pay for shipping and taxes anyway. But I need to clear my Epic first. :/

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