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post Jul 4 2012, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(r3apers @ Jul 4 2012, 12:55 PM)
fan dunno boleh tahan or not...coz my attic if didnt open any DIY exhaust fan.. its more thn 35degree...
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if more than 35'c, confirm cannot cos even water filter pump max operation temp is 35'c(risk of pump failure),
fan only able to cool 2-4'c , so with only that the lowest temp you can achieve with fan is 31'c which is still too high for most/all dwarf shrimps.


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post Jul 5 2012, 12:37 AM

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QUOTE(fishman @ Jul 4 2012, 11:04 PM)
Wah...thank you, thank you.

My low tech shrimp tank now, after 2 months. Java fern, windelov,anubias, java moss & tenellus growing well. Shrimps are surviving but still not breeding. sad.gif

Also experimenting with a planted cherry shrimp bowl using an old fish bowl.

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what spec is your tank. how come your ph too low bro.please state all the things you use from soil to plant. thanks. im doing some survey on how to achieve 5.5ph -6.0ph.hehehe. got some project.hihihi
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post Jul 5 2012, 01:12 AM

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QUOTE(sang gemok @ Jul 5 2012, 12:37 AM)
what spec is your tank. how come your ph too low bro.please state all the things you use from soil to plant. thanks. im doing some survey on how to achieve 5.5ph -6.0ph.hehehe. got some project.hihihi
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pH used to be low around pH5 - PH5.5. Added coral stones in my filter and it's higher now.

Tank: Ocean Free 1.5ft nano tank (44cm x 29cm x 30cm)
Soil: ADA Amazonia (3L x 2)
Rocks: <Not sure>
Lighting: AquaZonic 11W Universal Clamping Lamp
Filter: Classica Hang-on Filter + Sponge Filter
Cooling Fan: Dymax Windy W-7 Series

Fauna: Red Cherry Shrimps & Fire Reds (total around 30-40)
Flora: Marimos, Java Fern, Anubias nana, Windelov, Java Moss, Tenellus

pH: 6.5-7.0
Temp: 27-29 C
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post Jul 5 2012, 03:30 AM

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QUOTE(flipmode @ Jul 4 2012, 04:58 PM)
where is sifu arrow when we need him?  hmm.gif

you can use holland sand (waterfall sand what did you guys call just now) for base. i already try lorr...shrimp live like normal..nothing happen..just their color not red enough...even NA have tank using holland sand and keep red cherry in it.

the darker soil/sand you put in, it will be more vivid in color. better use shrimp soil.

for what purpose we need to use shrimp soil??

- Beneficial bacteria will stay in soil
- soil will maintain the pH that it should be.
- shrimp will be more striking color.

that's the purpose of using shrimp soil.  icon_rolleyes.gif

some shrimp need lower pH. some need high pH. so soil will help to maintain the pH that u want.
eg. crystal shrimp need lower pH, while sulawesi shrimp need higher pH. if you want to keep red cherry shrimp, its ok to use normal soil. coz they can adapt with variable water parameter (just dont give them shock)
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me not sifu, still long way to go...just sharing experience.

QUOTE(r3apers @ Jul 4 2012, 02:57 PM)
ok..so mostly u all buy the soil at where? LFS? or got member selling at here?
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Before you start buying stuff, what shrimps you intend to keep? if just Neocaridina Shrimps, then it is more easy and cheaper as well.
Try to choose one type/color of Neocaridina shrimps for one tank as they will interbreed if you put in different color Neocaridina shrimps, and end up with 'chap ayam' color . Cherry or fire red Neocaridina is most common and easy to keep/breed.

Soil will help/determine how long you need to cycle your tank, as we all know ammonia is needed to kick start tank cycle for bacteria colonization.
If using only sand/stone/bare bottom, you need to supply the ammonia needed(using pure ammonia, decaying fish food or do a notorious fish in cycle), but with soil like ADA , ammonia is readily leeching out from the soil itself.
I had use ADA new amazonia , Benibachi shrimp soil, Contro soil , Fluval Stratum soil, Gex pure sand , Coral sand/stone as base for my shrimps tank. (i also have Gex green soil and nisso soil which i yet to use).
Imho ADA, benibachi , Contro soil more suitable for CRS and shrimps that require lower PH. Like Bro. Fishman case coral stone is added to increase the PH when using ADA soil.
Fluval Stratum soil provide the ideal PH of 6.8 - 7.0 from the start for Neocaridina Shrimps.
Except the first tank using ADA soil which i took almost 2 month to fully cycle(noob that time), all my current tank i cut short the
cycling time by at least 80% or have tank instance cycled by porting tank Filter/media/water/stone over.

If i will to suggest a shrimp tank for my friends(noob type) i will recommend him this:
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just add in a decent hang on filter with media and fan, keeping & breeding Neocaridina Shrimps is no problem. Why? cos i have one myself brows.gif
3rd generation shrimps growing in there now.
O. price is less then RM350 , Pet safari in ikano is selling. It come with 2kg Fluval shrimp soil, Fluval internal filter with spray bar(not 100% shrimplets safe), 11w hagen light, 30cm x 36cm x 30cm tank with background, anti-chlorine, Thermometer, GH up additives ,Fluval shrimp food, shrimps info guide manual and a cute shrimp net.

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post Jul 5 2012, 09:09 AM

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Y my shrimps dun like zucchini? Is it normal?
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post Jul 5 2012, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(fishman @ Jul 4 2012, 11:04 PM)
Wah...thank you, thank you.

My low tech shrimp tank now, after 2 months. Java fern, windelov,anubias, java moss & tenellus growing well. Shrimps are surviving but still not breeding. sad.gif

Also experimenting with a planted cherry shrimp bowl using an old fish bowl.

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If want to breed the shrimp but i use the filter hang on, how to change the input to sponge? I see you also use hang on.
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post Jul 5 2012, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(Cherlyn @ Jul 5 2012, 09:09 AM)
Y my shrimps dun like zucchini? Is it normal?
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is it normal zuchini or organic, they preffer organic zuchinni. boiled it around 1-2 minutes.
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post Jul 5 2012, 09:29 AM

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Oo...need to boil it....i feed raw.nowonder...keke
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post Jul 5 2012, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(arrow @ Jul 4 2012, 11:27 PM)
if more than 35'c, confirm cannot cos even water filter pump max operation temp is 35'c(risk of pump failure),
fan only able to cool 2-4'c , so with only that the lowest temp you can achieve with fan is 31'c which is still too high for most/all dwarf shrimps.
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thts why i looking some material tht can lower the temp...

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ohh... nice info.... will think about tht~!

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post Jul 5 2012, 11:32 AM

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the only material you need to lower down the temperature is either aircond or chiller..
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post Jul 5 2012, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(kimimaro_kun @ Jul 5 2012, 11:32 AM)
the only material you need to lower down the temperature is either aircond or chiller..
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haha... tht expensive...might looking some heat insulation to stick onto the roof to lower the temp...
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QUOTE(r3apers @ Jul 5 2012, 11:36 AM)
haha... tht expensive...might looking some heat insulation to stick onto the roof to lower the temp...
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no point in adding heat insulation if there is no air circulation inside.
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post Jul 5 2012, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(kimimaro_kun @ Jul 5 2012, 12:03 PM)
no point in adding heat insulation if there is no air circulation inside.
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got window lar... if not window i also wont do as a relaxing area lo....
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QUOTE(r3apers @ Jul 5 2012, 11:36 AM)
haha... tht expensive...might looking some heat insulation to stick onto the roof to lower the temp...
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maybe u can do diy chiller.
then post the result here..
if succeed, i might order from u 1..hehe tongue.gif
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QUOTE(darthsyaz @ Jul 5 2012, 02:32 PM)
maybe u can do diy chiller.
then post the result here..
if succeed, i might order from u 1..hehe  tongue.gif
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thinking of tht... dunno can use PC watercooling to do or not~~! hmm.gif
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QUOTE(r3apers @ Jul 5 2012, 02:33 PM)
thinking of tht... dunno can use PC watercooling to do or not~~!  hmm.gif
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try n error..hehe flex.gif


Added on July 5, 2012, 2:42 pmIf im going to put ketapang leaf in my tank that i pick by myself, should i wash it or not?

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post Jul 5 2012, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(darthsyaz @ Jul 5 2012, 02:41 PM)
try n error..hehe  flex.gif


Added on July 5, 2012, 2:42 pmIf im going to put ketapang leaf in my tank that i pick by myself, should i wash it or not?
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yah...need try & error...might need to ask ppl customize the block..coz pc waterblock very small...

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Added on July 5, 2012, 2:42 pmIf im going to put ketapang leaf in my tank that i pick by myself, should i wash it or not?
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yes, you must, and test it with feeder shrimp b4 putting into your tank.
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post Jul 5 2012, 03:47 PM

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err...feeder shrimp is wat? yamato?
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feeder shrimp...aka ghost shrimp...aka glass shrimp...aka shrimp fed to arowana/oscar/kalui



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