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post Jul 4 2012, 10:33 AM

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hi, new here.. wana ask can i breed the shrip in my old tank which had 3 algea eater, some tetra and some molly fish?
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post Jul 4 2012, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(flipmode @ Jul 4 2012, 10:47 AM)
too late bradah..my priend oredi pinjam.... ph34r.gif

Added on July 4, 2012, 10:49 am

no you cant...if you want to breed shrimp, you can only keep ottocinclus...even siamese algea eater eat shrimplet
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ok thn wat u recommend for a start up tank?
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post Jul 4 2012, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(weijie @ Jul 4 2012, 11:22 AM)
Just my personal opinion,
during start up, put yamato, SAE and otto.
then when the tank is stable, you can donate your yamato and SAE to other member. lol.
yamato and SAE is very very good algae eater. you need them when you start your planted tank. Since shrimps is recommended to introduce when your tank has been matured (mostly 1-2 month), you will face much less algae attack issue if you got yamato and SAE helping.
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err.. wats is SAE? didnt read much in previous post..coz too damn many...haha..

if like this wats tht min size of the tank? if i use for ISTA CO2 set to do planted tank izzit ok or cuztomize co2 better?
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post Jul 4 2012, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(flipmode @ Jul 4 2012, 11:34 AM)
no extra...all of em working hard in their workplace...huhu
i have 6 otto, currently 2 working for shrimp tank, 4 in 1.5ft tank...
darn you..wait 2 month then you can borrow...my friends tank is 4ft, so they have to do OT. huhuhu
Siamese algae eater. dont get confuse with flying fox fish. yamato and SAE is great cleaning crew (when they in small size). what size of tank you want to start?. 2ft is nice already.
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ohh.. coz juz thinkint abt 1ft..since u said 2 ft i will consider it... need to budget how much to start up a shrimp tank...lol coz i dont wan to touch my old tank...haha to damn alot of stone...
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post Jul 4 2012, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(flipmode @ Jul 4 2012, 11:47 AM)
you can use 1ft tank also...no problem...consider you already have light and filter

you can use 3l amazonia soil. rm50++?
moss. rm20
dw - rm20

cycle your tank until your amonia is 0.
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co2? no need?
wats is dw?
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post Jul 4 2012, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(kimimaro_kun @ Jul 4 2012, 12:00 PM)
DW = driftwood.

CO2 system is not recommended for a shrimp tank.. cause shrimp love to have a rich O2 aqua-system..
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oic... coz flipmode mention moss.. coz as i head moss need co2...

QUOTE(sang gemok @ Jul 4 2012, 12:02 PM)
better you start with 1.5ft. budget is not to high. you want to make shrimp tank right?drift wood. DW
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yah shrimp tank with marimo...wakaka
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post Jul 4 2012, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(kimimaro_kun @ Jul 4 2012, 12:05 PM)
@r3apers,
better mention your budget here..
and don't get the  ISTA CO2 set. not worth it..
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if possible within RM150.. if slightly more still can top-up..
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post Jul 4 2012, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(kimimaro_kun @ Jul 4 2012, 12:13 PM)
if you plan to go with moss, then no point on getting ADA Amazonia.
plus you can choose the anubias and fern plant.
low light plant and not require to have CO2.

for LED light, maybe you can contact sisaiko. he's having 50% sale on the 60cm light..
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ok..will om him whn need it...

QUOTE(sang gemok @ Jul 4 2012, 12:14 PM)
moss need no co2 ler bro. coz they are low demanding plants. nothing is impossible.hehehe. if given the co2, they will be bushy.if not given co2, they will grow slowly. so, better grow slowly rather than seeing your shrimp gasping for air.huhu
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omg..thn i kena tipu lo... sweat.gif

QUOTE(flipmode @ Jul 4 2012, 12:29 PM)
co2 is a booster to faster growth of moss. it is not compulsory to have it. with sufficient light and cool water temperature, it will grow. you can dose minimal amount of fertilizer (sang gemok is good at this  rclxms.gif ) occasionally.
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oic...light and temp is the main factor...now i know....
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post Jul 4 2012, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(kimimaro_kun @ Jul 4 2012, 12:39 PM)
you can check fishman's tank.. really nice 1 yet simple.
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fishman's is forumer or ??? got link?
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post Jul 4 2012, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(kimimaro_kun @ Jul 4 2012, 12:44 PM)
check it out...

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wow nice.... would like to do that... but my main concern now is the temp..coz i going to put in my attic floor...quite hot at there.... still thinking how to reduce heat at my attic now... rclxub.gif
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post Jul 4 2012, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(sang gemok @ Jul 4 2012, 12:49 PM)
you can use fan.
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fan dunno boleh tahan or not...coz my attic if didnt open any DIY exhaust fan.. its more thn 35degree...
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post Jul 4 2012, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(sang gemok @ Jul 4 2012, 01:04 PM)
means, cannot lor.huhu.try search for another place. like beside your bed or study desk
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haha..no place..coz my living room got a 3ft tank already.... my room lagi no place....need to use the attic...coz previously attic use as a store..so now i clear it and do my resting place...so intend to place a fish tank there.... but will seek other solution to reduce heat on my attic...maybe will put a portable A/C~!
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post Jul 4 2012, 02:15 PM

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ok... so for my start up tank for 2ft are:-

2ft tank + waterfall Filter + Light
Amazonia soil
Moss
DW

than put yamato and SAE~!

am i right?

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QUOTE(sang gemok @ Jul 4 2012, 02:13 PM)
i.5ft is not that big lar bro. try to locate one spot lor.on your desk also can.coz it not too heavy.huhu
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scared my family mumbling as already got a tank in the living...hhaha

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post Jul 4 2012, 02:57 PM

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ok..so mostly u all buy the soil at where? LFS? or got member selling at here?
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post Jul 4 2012, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(sang gemok @ Jul 4 2012, 02:33 PM)
OK.up to you. 2ft tank will be rm500-600 to setup. and needs more suitable dw to make them beautiful.huhu
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wow 500-600 thn i need to slow slow invest ler... sweat.gif
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post Jul 4 2012, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(sang gemok @ Jul 4 2012, 03:09 PM)
last 2 months, i setup my shrimp tank. still need cleaning crew bro. my tank infected with hair algae.hoho.but the cycle is faster than planted tank one.huhu.

and actully, shrimp soil is same or expensive than ADA.huhu. cheap soil, please ask flipmode what happened to his tank last time. unstable ph.huhu. soon, will burden us.have to buy other soil to replace.huhu
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oic..btw got wat difference between shrimp soil and those LFS selling soil? dunno bout this stuff~!
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post Jul 4 2012, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(sang gemok @ Jul 4 2012, 03:21 PM)
shrimp soil for shrimp.planted tank soil for plant. shrimp soil more focus to shrimp need.that's all. but, if you like to have a healthy plants and good shrimps, u use amazonia soil. but the problem is, the soil will be stable in 3month time and above. but the result is the best so far.and the soil is cheap in price. although moss need no substrate to grow, but water parameter does. bacteria colony will build up in the soil other than the filter.so, good soil and long lasting one is my recommendation since we not setup for just 6month. but maybe 1year or 2 or above that period.summore our first shrimp tank. so much nostalgia one.huhu

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yes bro. long lasting.huhu. better buy the reliable and ideal in price than buying the cheap but giving headache soon.huhu
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oic..now i understand... thanks for de info... notworthy.gif
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post Jul 4 2012, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(flipmode @ Jul 4 2012, 04:58 PM)
where is sifu arrow when we need him?  hmm.gif

you can use holland sand (waterfall sand what did you guys call just now) for base. i already try lorr...shrimp live like normal..nothing happen..just their color not red enough...even NA have tank using holland sand and keep red cherry in it.

the darker soil/sand you put in, it will be more vivid in color. better use shrimp soil.

for what purpose we need to use shrimp soil??

- Beneficial bacteria will stay in soil
- soil will maintain the pH that it should be.
- shrimp will be more striking color.

that's the purpose of using shrimp soil.  icon_rolleyes.gif

some shrimp need lower pH. some need high pH. so soil will help to maintain the pH that u want.
eg. crystal shrimp need lower pH, while sulawesi shrimp need higher pH. if you want to keep red cherry shrimp, its ok to use normal soil. coz they can adapt with variable water parameter (just dont give them shock)
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wah... shrimp also need to maintain ph..alamak... i thought all the same~!
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post Jul 5 2012, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(arrow @ Jul 4 2012, 11:27 PM)
if more than 35'c, confirm cannot cos even water filter pump max operation temp is 35'c(risk of pump failure),
fan only able to cool 2-4'c , so with only that the lowest temp you can achieve with fan is 31'c which is still too high for most/all dwarf shrimps.
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thts why i looking some material tht can lower the temp...

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ohh... nice info.... will think about tht~!

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post Jul 5 2012, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(kimimaro_kun @ Jul 5 2012, 11:32 AM)
the only material you need to lower down the temperature is either aircond or chiller..
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haha... tht expensive...might looking some heat insulation to stick onto the roof to lower the temp...
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