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 Short Review on the Exora Bold

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MR_alien
post Dec 26 2011, 07:09 PM

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QUOTE(mat79 @ Dec 26 2011, 06:31 PM)
em,based my own test drive, this baby easy to reach up to 160kmh, since full torque untill 4k rpm,u have enough torque to propel the mpv at that speed without taking consideration the coefficient drag n lift. Its only a little bit slower reaching speed after that,but not that slow. 185kmh easily to reach by anyone, and media test last week mentioned that personally it can go beyond 190kmh coz when one media driven flx se@190kmh, they still cannot overtake bold, and they are still far away infront of flx se@190kmh.
Actually,managed to chat with media delegation when they break for lunch at hyatt.
Chat with media delegations was fun coz they are really friendly, but meeting the pwrtrain engineers, h n t members are really precious moment.
Whether iafm+ or cfe, they really put hard works to it, countless man hours of trial and testing, a lot of constraints they met, but at last,they managed to do it. Some of them just comeback from spain, some from swiss n even some from lotus uk.

Some nice advice from them, never try to modified the engine coz it already been at optimum performance n reliability, need to remember, if u put more power to it, u will reduce the life span of cvt since it can only take max 220nm. 205nm is the safe spot to ensure its reliability and they already test it up to 250k km. Thats why it takes long time for them to launch the engine.

So,wish the best for them.
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good if they have tested it until 250K KM
this is to ease the worry for those that want to buy this car/FLX SE but kinda curious abt the reliability of the turbo itself and the CVT
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post Dec 26 2011, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Dec 26 2011, 09:26 PM)
actuali wat is difference of iafm plus wit iafm?iafm can upgrade to iafm plus??i believe why the media will said flx se even power compare to cps..bcoz due to weight saga flx se is light than waja cps or gen2 cps..around 150kg difference
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actually thats kinda subjective
IAFM and IAFM+ if not wrong is no difference..IF NOT WRONG
IAFM+ advantage is..it resolved the previous "tak tak" sound made by some rod inside

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post Dec 27 2011, 01:28 AM

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QUOTE(xshiro @ Dec 26 2011, 11:28 PM)
yes this achieved with reprofiled camshaft..maybe this is what they call iafm+

anyway tested the exora, very smooth and good power, but got light whining sound..cvt sound?
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whinning sound again
thats the turbo
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post Dec 31 2011, 12:56 PM

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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Dec 31 2011, 12:48 PM)
When the heck MY Toyota going to bring teh new Camry with 6AT?  sweat.gif
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i dn't think they will improve la
as long as it still sells and NOBODY complain abt it
they won't even improve it to 6AT or even CVT cuz use old tech...low cost, higher profit margin
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post Jan 1 2012, 12:37 AM

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QUOTE(imin @ Jan 1 2012, 12:20 AM)
how come some got lower interest rate than others? I tot the interest rate is fixed... no?
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becuz of different bank
the difference is very small only...it depends how many years u take too
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post Jan 2 2012, 01:44 AM

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QUOTE(forgot_86 @ Jan 2 2012, 01:09 AM)
Just did the test drive this evening, as have been said by others, it really is amazinngg rclxms.gif  Felt really good and much better than my brother's avanza, which is very light and too simple for the same price.

The guy suggest me to change the tyre to 17" for better even better handling and road grip. It will look physically better as well. Gonna trade in my savvy 06 for exora prime.  biggrin.gif
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wrong la...bigger rim will sacrifice handling actually..stick with original size is the best
for better road grip...change to better tyres thn can already
but yeah...17" will look very cool
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post Jan 2 2012, 02:21 AM

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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Jan 2 2012, 02:11 AM)
Really? Cornering should be improved I thought, unless the rims are so big that the suspension can not keep up with uneven roads anymore. However FC, performance and comfort will suffer. I'd stay with stock... I mean it's not a sports car. biggrin.gif
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it will ruin handling actually
u want better cornering...get sport spring/abs...harder is much better for cornering but comfort suffer
bigger rim also affect FC and comfort as well
they made it with a certain size of rim for a reason..so better dn't change it
bigger rim just looks cool only actually
plus...its a MPV...why u need to corner so hard..hahaha
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post Jan 2 2012, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(forgot_86 @ Jan 2 2012, 12:11 PM)
My brother bought the avanza early this year around 75k, 1.5. Use drum brake at the back. And he always has problems to overtake, so when i ride with him we only go for middle or left lane  blush.gif  Right lane later kena highlight  tongue.gif
The guy suggest me to change to 215/45/r17. He said that is just the right size.

Hmm, somehow when the guy explain about the whole tyre things, and how wide tyres have more grip and can brake better seems to make sense  sweat.gif  But now im not sure anymore. And kept pointing out also how most BMW and Merz have big and wide tyres for that reason.

Maybe the stock tyre is the best to go. Need to do more research
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yes...WIDER tyres(not bigger) does provide more grip..yes..like BMW...their tyres very wide
for the safe side...just go for the better tyres enough already
get something like continental CC5..or better
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post Jan 5 2012, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(vinorgouki @ Jan 5 2012, 04:30 PM)
hi guys who had loan approved.
my loan already approve almost 2 weeks.
do i nd go to sign agreement? or wait the stock come 1st?
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yes...u need to sign agreement
the stock is there already actually....if theres no car there...they can't apply for loan
they need the car's identity to apply the loan
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post Jan 5 2012, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jan 5 2012, 04:47 PM)
I think you can apply for loan without the stock, but to prepare the documents for the signing the stock must be ready (Need car specs and chassis number). Maybe that's why vinorgouki waited 2 weeks after loan approved also not yet sign, because the car has not arrive yet.
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hmm...maybe
cuz i remember that when u apply the loan...an officer from the bank will go see the car be4 they approve it
so thats why need to have the car there
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post Jan 5 2012, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jan 5 2012, 05:15 PM)
Nahh...when I signed for my car it haven't arrive at the dealership yet, but was in their stockyard in Seri Kembangan. Only after I signed the loan agreement did the dealer transport my car to their showroom in Sri Petaling. All the SA gave the loan officer was my documents and the car specs.

I remember my SA tell me that I can apply loan this month and buy car next month, but subject to interest and price changes la as long as you have not signed the documents.

Maybe it depends on the relationship between the bank and the dealership.
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oh..u mean its in the stockyard..yes ..it is in the stockyard
when i say its here already mean the actual car is in their possession already
becuz the bank MUST see the car be4 they approve the loan...the bank is same like us ...buyers as well
if we...the buyer didn't see the car...will u send few hundred thousand to the car company?...no right?
the bank actually pay lum sum on the car and they kinda lend it to us..haha...we owe the bank...bank doesn't owe anyone anything
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post Jan 6 2012, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jan 6 2012, 12:30 PM)
Better wait until the dealership recieve your car, unless they already stock it somewhere else. You cant sign anything unless they have the chassis number, and they cant have the chassis number unless the car is already in their possession.

When you sign, make sure you check the specs of the car thorougly, including color and such, it is listed in te documents.

My sa will only bring the car to the dealership after i sign it, although they have stocked it at seri kembangan.
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actually be4 the loan is approved...the officer from bank already go see the car in the stockyard
what the buyer need to do is match the chassis number from the loan application to the actual car...see if the same
and of course check for faultiness
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post Jan 9 2012, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(kochin @ Jan 9 2012, 04:48 PM)
full tank, security tint, rm1k rebate.
ok kah?
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new car also got so many free things?
sure is bold?
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post Jan 10 2012, 05:56 PM

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the CPS is ok actually...as long as its using CVT GB
saga also same...using same engine but GB 1 use 4AT and another use CVT...difference is quiet big
but of course if can get CFE + CVT...thats the best
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post Jan 17 2012, 07:28 PM

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QUOTE(ntc2000 @ Jan 17 2012, 05:41 PM)
u mean tuah will have mivec 1.8, 2.0 and cfe?

i dont think they gonna have this kind of arrangement.
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i think is small FL
i think proton is aiming reliable engine(timing chain) and power at the same time
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post Jan 26 2012, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(imin @ Jan 26 2012, 11:29 AM)
actually this is among the reason i'm scared of buying proton. my 7 years old myi have no problem whatsoever. my cousin who had his saga blm for only 3 month, suddenly his car cannot start (luckily he's at home that time) and need to be towed. turns out its just something simple (according to the proton SC, but I forgot what it is)..
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it was the screw at the (-) terminal not tighten enough be4 handing over to customer
the loosen it when its stored in the stockyard
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post Jan 29 2012, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(sg999 @ Jan 29 2012, 01:40 PM)
my car is blm
do u recommend fully syn for my ride?
normally i did 5k at 6months
so if i use fully syn until 1year, will the quality downgrade due to oxidation?
and the proton oil filter seem like only last for 5k?
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blm use back semi syn better
even if u use fully syn, u better change the filter every 5k as well
and for semi syn better change the oil every 5k OR 4 month(if u surpass the 3 month but yet to reach 5k)
simple is like this
if reach 5k be4 3 month thn u can add 1k KM
if reach 3 month b4 5k thn can add another month
becuz longer thn that the oil will deteriorate already...u will experience engine noisy, pickup really hard like no power
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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Jan 29 2012, 04:33 PM)
Only in Malaysia you get people saying you can extend if use Fully Synthetic. This is what they call "Malaysia Boleh".

Overseas, Mineral or Sem-Syn or Fully Syn all need to be changed at THE SAME TIME.
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it is suppose to be like that
if not thn why the price difference...and somemore the difference is so big
mineral = 5k KM no further
semi = 5k KM..MAX can hold 7k KM
fully syn = 10k KM must change but based on malaysia weather, better change sooner or just use back semi syn is the best
and using back semi syn is cost efficient cuz fully syn is like RM100++ more expensive than semi syn but can't last that long as well
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post Mar 3 2012, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(tadwinks @ Mar 3 2012, 09:26 PM)
i hear a faint "eeee--grrrrrr" sound for about a second everytime i hit a pothole. is this normal?
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u'r never suppose to hit the potholes...you're suppose to avoid it
no car is designed to go through potholes...not even BMW and merc
else your tyre will benjol 1st
and sooner or later your absorber will kong
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post Mar 4 2012, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(noormsmy @ Mar 4 2012, 02:54 PM)
My dear bold owners..

I'm considering bold for the sleek design, powerful engine and gadgeteries inside ( i.e dvd, reverse camera bla bla)

But being a proton product, and with complications of the turbo setup, can this beast perform well over 9 years ( not rich la..plan to use till abis loan term)?

Techy guru's or any proton affiliates, be it engineers or fans, can please enlighten me..

Thank you in advance..
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the turbo is from warner-borg
and despite having the turbo....proton limited the torque to maintain the reliability of the engine and more importantly to match the CVT GB
can last 9 years or not...no one knows...proton's exora bold that proton is testing that u saw them on the road...they have tested it until 250000KM and still going
but i know 1 thing for sure, if u dn't take care of the engine well(didn't service on time)....no engine in this world would last even 5 years
just service it on time...changed the necessary part on time...it should last u quite long
dn't come back here and complain when proton break down when u the owner didn't even change engine oil on time, GB oil on time, coolant on time, belts on time etc etc

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