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MR_alien
post May 3 2012, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(ir5 @ May 3 2012, 05:17 PM)
opss..this one looks like a new issue for me, besides the engine suddenly off during driving due to the untighten nut at the battery connection...

so for this new prob (ABS or something else), which area actually is not fully tighten? after tighten, issue solved?
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i dn't think its "untighten" problem for the ABS part
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post May 6 2012, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(ckl1998 @ May 6 2012, 09:19 AM)
Hi,

How about air con? Do you notice the air con cooling kind of oscillate between cool and less cool, something like a cycle? I mean the air coming out from the outlet is cool, then turn less cool, and then back to cool again at different interval. When I say less cool, I mean you can still feel the coolness but it is something like fan mode instead of cooling mode. My setting is cooing ON, temperature 75% cool, fan power Level 1 or 2.
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did u set your mode to "circulate"?
if yes thn your temperature only need to set to 50% enough already
75% is too high
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post May 6 2012, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(ckl1998 @ May 6 2012, 01:06 PM)
Yes. Circulate is ON. Do you guys notice this air con oscilation thing?
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hmmm....u mean cold thn not cold for awhile is it?
i think its normal since the compressor didn't pump cold air continuously...
when u hear "pssst" sound..mean cold air coming in..thn after that its wind
its normal....as long as the inside of the car stays cold..i dn't see any problem
and your temp...better stay at 50%+

and oil leak mean black oil
if water thn its A/C..normal

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post May 6 2012, 09:45 PM

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QUOTE(vinorgouki @ May 6 2012, 05:38 PM)
Well, recently i feel my aircon doesn't cool at all when waiting at traffic light, or theres hot air come out especially at big hot day. But when the car move everything go fine.

I got checked my radiator fan, both are running well. Temparature is normal 3 bars as well. Donno can complain to SC or not.

If the temp I all time switch to 100%, will it harm my air con?
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if u complain at SC...they will do what most workshop will do...add gas
i dn't really know abt your setting in aircon....but if its set right, it should be fine
and yes...when your car is moving, the aircon is cooler cuz got wind(cool air) coming in
when you're staying still, its not gonna be as cold as when you're moving...this is normal for any aircon

and YES...setting it to 100% will 110% harm your aircon...even with the great aircon brand proton is using
this is why u see those car not even 2/3 years old...aircon already finish and have to change whole set(around RM2.XK)
because they directly switch the temperature above 50% when they say hot...best is maintain 50%...dn't go over and i can guarantee your A/C will serve u 6-7 years without service
if u set like 75-100%...thn better service every year....and i gotta tell u 1st, servicing this a/c ain't cheap
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post May 6 2012, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(neo1point3 @ May 6 2012, 10:31 PM)
Agree with you smile.gif
Service air con is expensive, the parts like compressor can reach rm1k
And as usual, we know nuts about servicing air cond sure kena ketuk kaw kaw by workshop sad.gif
Better use it wisely
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yes...whole set of the same brand(the A/C shop i go uses the same brand as well, he only uses denso and sanden as well)
becuz they know its good as well
whole set include labour is RM2.X K
but damn..its reliable and cold
servicing it...i dnt know other place...the shop quote me around RM400 becuz its hard to do
so better use it wisely
and during stop still, i won't say hot but its not as cold as moving....standing still mean sucking hot air(whether from engine or somewhere)..if moving, cool air blowing in from front
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post May 6 2012, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(zakinawi @ May 6 2012, 11:03 PM)
so.. when the car stop moving... is it good to add extra fan at the condenser?.. hmm
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why would u wanna do that?..haha
i think u go A/C shop also they won't recommend u or in my case..do-able(since we know nuts abt A/C)
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post May 7 2012, 12:53 AM

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QUOTE(zakinawi @ May 6 2012, 11:10 PM)
have u tried to put your car into reverse gear? the air cond will be releasing hot air.. this is iF u drive exora bold..
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that i said already...if going forward, you're getting fresh and cool air from front(wind)..right
so when the car standstill or reversing, its actually getting hot air frm engine
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post May 7 2012, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(zakinawi @ May 7 2012, 07:49 PM)
they said in report... NORMAL.. wtf


Added on May 7, 2012, 7:56 pmif your radiator fan always on everytime after turn off engine, its the simptom the engine will overheat sumday.. just cross your fingers, hope it will not happen. i tot it is normal becoz my gen-2 and saga fL also have this feature- fan will turn on after turn off engine..alot exora bold owner  already have this problem.. try call proton edar COSE, ask them.. 1st batch got lot problem.. if wanna buy, go for second batch or third... maybe the cylinder head have been rectified.. just got my cylinder head changed to new one 2 weeks ago...haha.. becoze 1st batch got cylinder head problem..
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i think the radiator works more often is becuz of the turbo..its cooling it
but if u dn't want it to be so annoying...use better coolant thn
toyota coolant, peregrine coolent or forged racing coolant...surely improve
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post May 8 2012, 02:31 AM

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QUOTE(zakinawi @ May 7 2012, 08:06 PM)
i already put 100% mercedes coolant.. the blue colour before overheat.. but still, during normal drive, engine goes overheated.. hohoho...after change cylinder head, proton use the normal green..not 100%, but 70-30.. until now ok lor.. they also said its the cylinder head problem.. not fan or coolant or radiator.. try and check your radiator, when u go back.. if its dry, be ready.. if got water, its ok lor.. just my advice, from a person that have gone through..
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mercedes coolant?
u better becareful on what coolant u use bro
not all coolant is suitable on every radiator...if u put the wrong coolant into the wrong radiator, your radiator is in trouble
if i'm not wrong, there are 2 kind of radiator...when i say that i mean build using 2 kind of material
the coolant that i stated just now are toyota coolant, peregrine coolant and forged racing coolant
toyota coolant(i maybe wrong)..only can be used in 1 kind of radiator...usually japanese ones
peregrine coolant and forged racing coolant are universal coolant..meaning can be used in all kind
other coolant though...better becareful...else you're doing more damage than good
and the ratio..the correct ratio is 50:50...in proton case, 2X 1L coolant + 2L water = 4L radiator capacity
too high ratio of coolant is bad as well becuz coolant is acidic
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post May 10 2012, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(t007 @ May 10 2012, 08:13 PM)
thank for the info. But what meaning one way valve syndrome? How long you repair and waiting time?
Just 2 week need to open engine. Who can accept it. Proton need to take more serious on their QC.
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i think its becuz every car in 1 batch is assembled in the same way
thats why the cars in that particular batch will be affected
next batch, they would improve it abit..thats why certain dn't have, certain have
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post May 14 2012, 07:23 PM

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QUOTE(zakinawi @ May 14 2012, 06:38 PM)
this is the stereng bush problem.. u send to the SC many times also will not solve it.. they will change it with the oem, original, but still it will happened again. mine changed 2 times.. but still the got problem.. the only way is to use silicon, but sure will void warranty.. this is the SC advisor told me.. so, just wait and wait
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haha...this happens to all new gen proton ..even perodua also started to do it
the problem isn't the front...the problem is the rear
the rear came at an angle(i dunno how to say) and its suppose to improve the handling
thats why in some preve video..lot of ppl comment "kereta baru alignment dah lari"...actually its not
becuz the car is front wheel drive, the rear is fixed...cannot adjust
the only way to make it straight is to insert "spacer" into the rear there.....of all the alignment sifu, only a handful know how to do it...literally handful only(hard to find)
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QUOTE(zakinawi @ May 14 2012, 07:28 PM)
put spacer will gegar lor when do high speed..
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nope....the spacer is place in between something
and which part gegar are u referring to?..steering?
if steering gegar when high speed mean balancing problem..not alignment
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post May 15 2012, 01:27 AM

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QUOTE(zakinawi @ May 15 2012, 12:12 AM)
the back will gegar a bit. by the way, not the alignment lari, the alignment is good, but the stereng. exmple: after u make a u turn to the left, the stereng will tend to move to the left.. but the alignment is still straight.. nak explain pon susah.. kalau tunjuk lagi senang. huhu
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ya i know
and no i'm not referring to alignment actually
its actually not a problem to start with becuz it came like that...when it came from the factory, its already like that
like i said be4...its actually for better handling
u send back to SC also cannot fix becuz its fixed...cannot adjust
i know becuz since saga BLM...this problem started to exist already(not sure be4 that have or not)...its not a problem, its just annoying only
and it can be fix by placing spacer *IF u want to fix it*
heck even perodua started this to improve their handling already since their car so suck in handling...thats why u can see myvi and alza have this problem even its brand new
this problem though...won't exist if your car is rear wheel drive...cuz it can be easily adjust
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post May 19 2012, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(ckl1998 @ May 19 2012, 09:26 PM)
Hi, anyone who had sent EB to SC for checking out the air con intermitent cooling problem? What did they say?

I had sent to CoSE, what they did is just refilling gas. The intermitent cooling problem is still there.
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if u scare its a problem...better check with A/C shop that uses sanden/denso aircon
if u go to SC, workshop...places/people that are not specialize in this sector, they will only refill the gas for u(10/10 will do the same)
try search your nearest dealer here
http://www.sanden.com.my/dealers/dealers.htm
although i dn't think all their dealer is listed cuz the one i always go isn't listed there

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post May 19 2012, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(ckl1998 @ May 19 2012, 10:53 PM)
Thanks. As of now, the intermitent happen to me in 2 ways,
1. The air is cold when the compressor kicks in but this last for about 8 - 10 seconds only and then only normal air for another few seconds (I think due to compressor cut off?). This goes on in cycle.
2. Sometime the compressor takes a long time to kick in, hence, more normal air than cold air.

I think these 1 & 2 makes the cooling tempature not stable. However, SC said my thermo amp is OK. Make sense?
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1.that is normal actually...car A/C is different than home A/C....home a/c work all the time but it gets cold very slow...need like 15 min
car A/C gets cold very fast but the compressor doesn't work all the time....it kicks in like every 35-45secs...it does not constantly working to pump in cold air
2.not sure how long is your long, take to those shop and let them check, cuz they know the characteristic of the A/C.....i can't see/feel, so i can't tell u normal or not
u just have to know car A/C compressor doesn't work all the time, it kicks in every 35-45 second(for like 5-10 sec)...u can hear like something blowing from the vent
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QUOTE(ckl1998 @ May 19 2012, 11:18 PM)
Are they willing to check my car or they will probably ask me to refer Proton since I didnt buy direct product from them?
I didnt notice blowing from the vent but I can feel cold air coming out every time the engine sound get louder or the second where the dashboard light dim (compressor kick in and draw more current?)
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they will check..at most pay some kopi money to them at the end and say can u check this for me, i dnt know its normal or not
they will know the characteristic of the A/C since they're the dealer
sending it back to SC is no use cuz proton mechanic are not A/C specialist....mechanic dn't learn A/C part
only the ones who did A/C would know abt it
sending it back to SC only meant constant refill gas...
in your case, its normal actually...but if you're scare, go to those dealer and ask them to explain to u why its like this and why its like that
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QUOTE(DinKnight @ May 20 2012, 08:27 PM)
Looks like I'm delaying my decision to get an Exora Bold CFE now. Earliest to buy: beforeĀ  Hari Raya 2012, latest: mid-2013. If problems are per the forums still persist in later batches, will shelve the idea altogether.
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mid 2013...u better wait for final facelift la...haha
and to tell u...theres no perfect car in this world...EVERY car in this world has its own problem
u buy infamous T also have problem la....somemore premium brand = expensive part
u buy exora...if something broken, u can still claim under warranty and if warranty ended, part will not be so expensive afterall
alza until now still have alot of problem

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post May 20 2012, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(cocodemon @ May 20 2012, 09:40 PM)
fyi i just received my exora last thursday (17/05). arrived from factory the previous day. odo shows 20km (the dealer brought to tint shop)
i'm aware of the common problems related to eb's. so after 4 days and 350+km, from my observation my eb does not have all these common problems:
- jerking of the cvt gb
- intermittent aircond
- engine shut off
- dashboard rattling
- weird engine sound
- oil leaking
- friction on door handle (they're not touching at all)
- strange sound after hitting potholes

what i do have:
- wind noise on driver's window. but really minimal one. almost unnoticeable.
- hu only managed 2 find hitz.fm & nothing else. maybe dealer wrongly installed the antenna

my AFC so far is 9.7. prior to my trip to nilai (fr malacca), the AFC was even lower.

from what i see, proton has manage to sort out most of the problems faced by earlier batches of eb.

then again, it might be too early to judge sweat.gif

p/s damn i love the car. god bless proton!

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the radio i think no matter what brand used also have this problem
certain station can't be searched at certain area...just have to keep trying or use manual input(not sure have or not)
the channel is there actually but somehow the HU won't accept it but when u manually input it, somehow there it is
like my place cannot detect myFm but if i go to city center, can pula(30+-KM away)

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