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MR_alien
post Apr 8 2012, 08:25 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Apr 8 2012, 08:20 PM)
yeah agreed, mention before even my jap cars can swap battery when engine running.. but he keep insist it's battery connector.. maybe it's a proton thing?  biggrin.gif
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u asked me why...i can't answer u as well
but most car right now have these prob
and when it happens...the whole car shuts down
can't crank, alarm also doesn't work
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post Apr 8 2012, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(megat89 @ Apr 8 2012, 08:32 PM)
i dont believe it..maybe only proton cars are like that...if this is true, everyone have to check their car battery 1st before driving on a highway..haha..
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i dn't think its p1 only....alot of cars i heard have these problems too
i think it has to do with some electronics or the ECU
cuz when i got my car...no problem
drive it around 80KM per day for a few days also no prob
its that 1 days....i think something triggers it and thn it dies
and when its towed to SC...no one knows how to fix it and its such a simple fix

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post Apr 9 2012, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(vinorgouki @ Apr 9 2012, 10:48 AM)
last night driving back to home at average 80kmh. suddenly 'pong' front left tyre puncture. i think i'm the 1st EBP owner tyre puncture, lol.

after i change the spare tyre (its really hard to jet up the car and the spare tyre is heavy to get out), i go petrol station check the others tyre air pressure, theres still have 32-34 psi left.

i check the door side stated there jz only need 31 psi. isit 31 psi really enough for a heavy car? then i jz pump all my tyre to 37 psi.

i will send my punctured tyre to trye shop later today. ask them to check for it and will update back here.
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so fast puncture already...so many nails on the road??...haha
i would recommend around 220 for the front and 200 for the rear


Added on April 9, 2012, 12:40 pm
QUOTE(baikpunyecilok @ Apr 9 2012, 12:03 PM)
Last week, me encounter the same problem, my engine suddenly off. at that time my exora in parking mode, firstly the wiper suddenly on and after that check engine light up and engine died. after few second, my wife re-start and everything working good. me also wonder what happen at that time? waiting for 5k servis, current milage 3.3k and need to complaint sc. will update later..
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its the battery connector there...tighten it..its loose

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post Apr 9 2012, 03:42 PM

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if u ask me..after i think abt it
i think its becuz of the connector is loose...it wobbles around
and it kinda on and off...making the electronics gone crazy
and when it reach a certain level....it will "trip"....same theory as our home electricity "box" there
our car is the same..since the connector woobles as we drives...it kept on and off...making it "trip"/total shut down

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post Apr 9 2012, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(akchang @ Apr 9 2012, 04:51 PM)
wow, im getting my bold next week. the comments here makes me feels uneasy. so check batt connector first before driving out
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just ask your SA did he tighten the connectors
its his job to make sure everything
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post Apr 10 2012, 12:23 PM

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indon tyre "brand"
if not wrong...its still made here
silverstone, continental...brand only
but still made here becuz of superior quality of malaysian rubber
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post Apr 16 2012, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(DinKnight @ Apr 15 2012, 09:28 PM)
I asked because a few pages back in this thread, this was the rumour.

Why would I want the mitsu engine? Because I like it.
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once they set the car when they launch the car to use campro..all the way they will use it
they wouldn't change
a "facelift" is suppose to be making customer to be more interested in the car while maintaining the cost
if now they suddenly want to put mivec into it, they would be pouring more money into development in putting mivec into exora...switching engine isn't just switching, theres alot of part related needed to be change and somemore tested for problems
it would take years and more money....for a "facelift"...heck no...no company in this world would do that
the next "exora replacement"...maybe...current exora FL....HELL NO


Added on April 16, 2012, 5:06 pm
QUOTE(zakinawi @ Apr 16 2012, 11:25 AM)
ig u go to exora club forum, u will know other problems of exora.. mine got stuck in SC for 1 week now.. the cannot detect what problem.. and need time rectifiy it.. huhuhu
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what prob would that be?
sometime the solution is VERY VERY simple but SC can't solve it becuz they're not trained to fix that
thats why they're scratching their head

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post Apr 16 2012, 07:01 PM

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QUOTE(jscyl1980 @ Apr 16 2012, 06:07 PM)
if they can't fix minor problem on exora bold then how they gonna fix the "Proton Preve" in the future?
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depends on what "minor" problem that you're talking abt
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post Apr 22 2012, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(pgkia @ Apr 22 2012, 03:11 PM)
ya...EB noise a lot higher. trying to work on something to reduce and insulate the noise from engine bay. Anyone has any good pointer for me to kick start? my main focus is the noises from engine bay.
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engine bay...soundproof it
both the engine hood there and the firewall
firewall more effective but very hard to do...not sure abt EB though but it is hard to do
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post Apr 23 2012, 12:26 AM

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QUOTE(pgkia @ Apr 22 2012, 11:34 PM)
was told Campro engine cannot tahan high temp. If i soundproof the hood, it might increase the heat trapped inside. do you think so?
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as long as u move...i dn't think its an issue
not sure EB's engine hood got soundproof or not but preve surely got
many car also got....no issue one
but effect is not much..the one that matters is the firewall
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post Apr 23 2012, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(pgkia @ Apr 23 2012, 11:33 AM)
for that price tag, i am very happy for now. Nobody knows the reliability and durability of this new car engine. you just have to balance out what you get and what you have paid. The next nearest competitor is Innova which has 30k extra to pay. Innova is obviously better NVH than EB in terms of NV. Handling part, i would say both are equal.

Space?..Innova slightly better, when needed, u can fit in extra person legally.

Power? you can get it from the spec. From the test drive, pickup from EB turbo is addicting. We dun have lots of long stretches of highway on Penang island, so i can't comment in details. For short range pickups, i would say it is better than Innova.

For me, i am trying to handle the NV parts. Noise part i am trying to do soundproofing, which might spend RM2-3k. Vibration part, maybe a basic chassis foam ranging from 500-1k. If i add up all these, it is still <5k. if i choose to go premium solution, that might shoot up to 10k (or more?).  So, it is still a sub 90k monster. tongue.gif

you guys are lucky 'cos KL has a lot of good soundproofing solution providers. We hard to get here. less providers, means less price competitiveness. sad.gif
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which part is vibrating actually?
i dn't recommend u to go do that chassis foam
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post Apr 23 2012, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Apr 23 2012, 02:31 PM)
Handling not much different if you drive at Ah Pek speed and taking corner. But once you drive fast, I would say there are lots of different in handling. The Exora is much better.
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agree on this...proton's handling is always above good with that lotus handling
no need corner...try roundabout already can know
try go though a roundabout at 70-80KM/H...am very sure the exora can take it while innova need to brake and slow down
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post Apr 23 2012, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(pgkia @ Apr 23 2012, 02:54 PM)
i dunno yet. my guess would be mostly from the engine bay. I can't get anyone in Penang does this job so for now, my focus is mainly on the hood and firewall.

Any reasons why you oppose chassis foaming? wanna collect more details...
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just do sounproof is enough already
vibration if outside thn not much issue la....theres always vibration outside..as long it didn't affect the inside..thn it should be ok
if inside certain vibration...i recommend using those black hard sponge rather than those chassis foam
cuz its not like everywhere is vibrating...mostly 1-2 place only

chassis foaming not sure how to say not recommended...its not no good, its just not recommended
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post Apr 23 2012, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(pgkia @ Apr 23 2012, 03:07 PM)
ya...i was thinking roof also, but we dun have heavy rain everyday here. so, i am targeting the parts where i have to face everyday. Doors will be my next focus. Anyhow, the place i stay, we are facing aeroplanes flying above us everyday, and we can feel the external vibration from inside..hahahaha:D

I was in my friend's Avanza when it was heavily rain. Surprisingly, i feel that Exora is slightly better in terms of roof insulation.

For vibration, how to detect which parts are vibrating? From your experience, which parts are mostly the culprits?
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actually the roof no need soundproof
2 reason
1. even without roof soundproof, protons roof already sound quite good when its rain
2. as long as it doesn't leak...no reason to touch it...hehe
door i think have...i think u need to open it and see hows inside 1st be4 u soundproof the door....if its thick already thn no need
and vibration in the inside...no need to detect la...like dashboard vibration, it will appear itself
and how to know which part to put the sponge at....this is a job for 2 ppl...ask someone to drive or u drive...and when the vibration happen, place your hand along the way and press it(apply abit force down) until the moment u place your hand at the right spot and the vibration stop...thats the place to put the sponge at
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post Apr 25 2012, 02:50 AM

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QUOTE(pgkia @ Apr 24 2012, 10:50 PM)
Anyhow this is the offer from PG SAs. The best i could get is RM1k discount + full tank petrol. If u in KL, was told in other forums that u can get 1.5k-2k discount with no free gift.
i remember read from some articles mentioning that Exora next new full release will be ~5 yrs later. Not sure on facelift though.
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every proton model have a policy of renewing each car model every 5 years
and in that 5 years..there will be 3 facelift
if not wrong...each facelift is every 1.5 years
now exora is in its 2nd FL...so there will be another one be4 it renew
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this is quite confusing huh
its suppose to be every 5k
especially when they're using semi syn oil...the longest u can last is 7k KM
but certain said every 10k...but they're still using semi syn oil
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post Apr 25 2012, 10:21 PM

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if they're using fully syn oil..thats better BUT be reminded, because of malaysian hot weather...your car will start to feel sluggish and higher FC after maybe 7k KM because the oil started to deteriorate already
it really depends though...best is still every 5k using semi syn....every 10k is fine as well but not recommended
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QUOTE(neo1point3 @ Apr 29 2012, 10:21 AM)
Have you guys test the DVD player?
I test yesterday, and found out it flicker so badly when car is shaking like drive on rough road or bump.
It flickr like tv when cannot get signal

Wiring problem, DVD player lemon or normal like that?
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its wiring problem but not lemon...its probably something not attached properly...abit loose
take back to SC ask them check and attach it properly
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QUOTE(Longy @ May 1 2012, 07:40 PM)
Things I noticed with EBP
I feel the slight rocking of the driver seat when you brake.
The engine RPM stays at 1 even when you stop at traffic lights.
The horn sounds like a ship
Remote control lock and unlock sounds are very soft. Sometimes you are not sure if you have locked the car or not.
High engine sound outside was expected. But it gets more louder when you switch your aircon on.
Anything I mention to my inexperienced SA . He says " the car comes like that "

I like
The space inside the car
Pick up in the low gears.
Sound system ( Good for the car price )
Stability of the car. Handling and braking has been good
Air con is good and i like the flow outlets for the 2 back row seats

I have not checked on DVD player. No complaint from my kids.

So far I am satisfied with the buy. What happens in next few months and how the SC service my car?..Wait and see.
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RPM stays at 1k...is there anything wrong with that?..its suppose to be like that..if u switch to "N"..it will drop abit
gets louder?...aircon sound or engine sound?
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QUOTE(ir5 @ May 2 2012, 12:06 AM)
Manage to test drive both EB and preve today ;p
EB not bad, i push up to ~160km/h on 'kampung' road and it didn't shake much (still stabil, even the road is not as even as the highway plus ;p) but it can't beat the rear suspension system offered by preve (multilink)...
But one thing i noticed...both EB and preve kinda sluggish at the beginning...it start to have full pickup when the RPM near to 1.8-2K....is this the behaviour of the CFE engine??? Anyhow, i found out that preve more sluggish than preve...hmmm...any comment guys...
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its already stated the turbo kicks in @ 2k RPM
thats why its not recommended to get the IAFM+ variant..unless u take manual version

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