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> New draft law will jail unlicensed IT professional, IT industry in Malaysia is finished. Serious Talk

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post Dec 9 2011, 04:55 PM

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I like this comment by a certain nah from the malaysianinsider article.

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"The goal of the proposed Malaysian law appears to be aimed at bringing the IT profession to higher levels of accountability, especially in light of numerous large-scale IT projects that fail or experience cost overruns."
What has this got to do with Computer Professionals. This is BN crony problem. Dont blame the professionals.


Damn right.

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However, system administrator and business intelligence specialist Brian Ritchie said that the unspoken fear was that “the government is building a hacker database and can profile and identify all specialists.”


hmm.gif all part of the plan ...

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post Dec 9 2011, 05:29 PM

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post Dec 9 2011, 05:30 PM

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also checked out fb page

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Malaysians-A...289002177811647
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post Dec 9 2011, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(chanti-sama @ Dec 9 2011, 05:29 PM)
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Thanks. Added this in my LYN & FB avatar.

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post Dec 9 2011, 06:34 PM

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This is very harmful to the development of our IT industry.

With this, our IT industry will be further eclipsed by countries such as India which has large supply of qualified IT professionals.
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post Dec 9 2011, 06:35 PM

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this is the stupidest thing i ever heard...

already got so many professional bodies cert, y i need your stupid cert...

i can stay in sg, and provide IT services to ppl in msia...then u come to sg and catch me ar?
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projects fail and cost overruns are due to too many stupid politics involved when delivering the system. If it take six months to deliver, the requirement already changed by the time of the system delivery. Business moves faster than you think. The accountability is not so much on the IT professionals more so regarding the never ending change to business requirements. With this new bill, no outside IT professionals are allowed to practice in this country unless they are registered. Bye bye india IT professionals from Malaysia.

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post Dec 9 2011, 07:02 PM

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All the more reason for me to GTFO ASAP from here. Massive brain drain imminent.
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how much to register? RM1k

Anyone read this?

KUALA LUMPUR, Dec 8 — Malaysia is among several fast-growing economies that are about to lose funds from the European Union (EU) from 2014, the Financial Times (FT) reported today.

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysi...ging-economies/

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post Dec 9 2011, 07:23 PM

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“IT is a very fluid and flexible industry and, unlike doctors or engineers, does not endanger lives,” said Vijandren Ramadass, founder of online community Lowyat.net.


http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysi...s-alarm-online/
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how much to register? RM1k

Anyone read this?

KUALA LUMPUR, Dec 8 — Malaysia is among several fast-growing economies that are about to lose funds from the European Union (EU) from 2014, the Financial Times (FT) reported today.

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysi...ging-economies/
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RM1K? Where is it listed?
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post Dec 9 2011, 07:36 PM

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f*** la....this country...what should we do now....mother f.u.c.ker....do i need your cert...we move to another country then... o0o=.=o0o What law is this??? vmad.gif vmad.gif mad.gif mad.gif
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post Dec 9 2011, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(rosamundwo @ Dec 9 2011, 07:13 PM)
how much to register? RM1k
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I'm not too worried that I will have to pay 1k for it. I'm more concerned about the increase in cost that will be passed down to the consumer. Nobody will want to buy my software if I will have to hike up the price to cover the cost of my license. Not to mention the inefficiency of the governing body will make it harder for us who are not part of their crony to attain the license. IT is a low risk unlike an engineer whose negligence can cause the death of workers or a doctor whose incompetence could kill a person during an open heart surgery.
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post Dec 9 2011, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(iloveuforever @ Dec 9 2011, 07:36 PM)
f*** la....this country...what should we do now....mother f.u.c.ker....do i need your cert...we move to another country then...  o0o=.=o0o  What law is this???  vmad.gif  vmad.gif  mad.gif  mad.gif
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I understand you are pissed off by that but can you refrain from using strong words? This is a serious talk after all.
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QUOTE(Forgotten06 @ Dec 9 2011, 09:09 PM)
I understand you are pissed off by that but can you refrain from using strong words? This is a serious talk after all.
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okay... nod.gif


But this is really pissed off.... This rules gonna kill many people.....mang....Oppose...oppose.. vmad.gif vmad.gif
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post Dec 9 2011, 08:28 PM

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I edited original post to include the KEYWORD... CNII's definition and industry coverage.


This is the blank cheque in the bill! It is defined outside of the bill and can change anytime to suit as they wish.
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post Dec 9 2011, 08:35 PM

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ini sudah bengong punya law..
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post Dec 9 2011, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(dma0991 @ Dec 9 2011, 07:41 PM)
I'm not too worried that I will have to pay 1k for it. I'm more concerned about the increase in cost that will be passed down to the consumer. Nobody will want to buy my software if I will have to hike up the price to cover the cost of my license. Not to mention the inefficiency of the governing body will make it harder for us who are not part of their crony to attain the license. IT is a low risk unlike an engineer whose negligence can cause the death of workers or a doctor whose incompetence could kill a person during an open heart surgery.
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Dont worry

your consumer would most likely not be a consumer.

because the definition of computing involves the consumer in using the system you developed. which also means, to be a user, u also need to be certified lol


time to code my websites using my good old typewriter.
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post Dec 9 2011, 09:07 PM

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QUOTE(dma0991 @ Dec 9 2011, 07:41 PM)
I'm not too worried that I will have to pay 1k for it. I'm more concerned about the increase in cost that will be passed down to the consumer. Nobody will want to buy my software if I will have to hike up the price to cover the cost of my license. Not to mention the inefficiency of the governing body will make it harder for us who are not part of their crony to attain the license. IT is a low risk unlike an engineer whose negligence can cause the death of workers or a doctor whose incompetence could kill a person during an open heart surgery.
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not entirely true. a flawed system is fatal especially in automotive, aviation, medicine, military, and those rocket science.
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QUOTE(happy4ever @ Dec 9 2011, 08:36 PM)
Dont worry

your consumer would most likely not be a consumer.

because the definition of computing involves the consumer in using the system you developed. which also means, to be a user, u also need to be certified lol
time to code my websites using my good old typewriter.
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lol

QUOTE(mindspring @ Dec 9 2011, 09:07 PM)
not entirely true. a flawed system is fatal especially in automotive, aviation, medicine, military, and those rocket science.
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True, Aaron Tan Dani has already covered that.
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Aaron Tan Dani, chairman of the International Association of Software Architects, said that a board of computing professionals was good but it should only be for those involved in critical functions such as IT architects and project managers for large-scale projects where the risks due to failure was high.

“It is good but it must be based on industry needs,” said Dani. “It should be registering only those in critical functions and not try to register everybody.

Some of those that you mentioned are mission critical applications and the screening to even get those who could do the job is at least 100x tougher than the government license. The license by the government is worthless in those field that you mentioned because of the difficulty in getting that position in the first place. I would place my fate on their years of experience rather than a piece of paper that tells that they are qualified to do the job.

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