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post Dec 8 2011, 08:44 PM, updated 14y ago

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PIKOM and MNCC is main drive behind this bill.

https://plus.google.com/1160406568400156453...sts/1byMQhGvREn

"And yes, of course this didn't start from the government -- its factions like MNCC and PIKOM that have pushed it."


PIKOM list of council members.

http://www.pikom.org.my/cms/General.asp?wh...=22716&CatID=60

Hidden objectives of CPB2011

1. Rent seeking, make money from IT industry, teaming up with industry Trojans like PIKOM and MNCC.
2. Control dissent by restricting knowledge workers who participate in dissent as employees for opposition.
3. Rob the lucrative IT sector from the private industry and put them in the hands of cronies, aka Bumiputra-ism.
4. Form an elite gateway and eliminate competition from other IT competitors, mainly non-grads, work with govt to accomplish this. (point 1)

Foreign IT corporations and local Unis that are involved that provides training and against Opensource Software may have interests/hand in this.

It's time for IT corporations such as Microsoft, Sun/Oracle to come out with official statement.

http://uppercaise.wordpress.com/2011/12/13...nt-trojan-worm/

SlashDotted! http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/12/09/233...of-tech-workers

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysi...s-alarm-online/


http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysi...en-all-over-it/


Note: This law is prone to abuse, corruption and possibly 'quota'. Please inform everyone in IT field. You cannot run an IT company anymore without government approval.

New draft law restricts unregistered IT professional from providing IT services of ANY kind at all.

Fine = 20,000 ringgit or 6 months jail.


The license must be applied, but that means, the society can target recipient based on crony or race... especially Bumiputra.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/75107593/CPB2011-Draft

Page 46...



Restriction on employment of unregistered person to provide Computing Services

34. No CNII entities or person shall employ a person, sole proprietorship, partnership or body corporate, other than aRegistered Computing Practitioner or Registered Computing Professiona lor Registered Computing Services Provider practice, to perform Computing Services



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General penalty

36. (1) Any person, sole proprietorship, partnership or body corporate who contravenes this Act or any regulations made there under shall be guilty of an offence and shall,where no penalty is expressly provided therefore, be liable, on conviction,to a fine not exceeding twenty thousand ringgit (RM20,000) or imprisonment not more than six months or both.





------------------------------------- Edited to include extra critical information -----------------------------------------







KEYWORD is CNII. They are not defined properly in the bill. Here's how it goes.

On page 7.

Critical National Information Infrastructure
(CNII)”refers to those assets, systems and functions that are vital to the nation that their incapacity or destruction would have a devastating impact on National economic strength or National image or National defense and security or Government capability to function or Public health and safety.

Sounds like only applies to government right? NO!!


Here's the FULL industry that is defined in the 2nd half !

http://cnii.cybersecurity.org.my/main/about.html


The CNII sectors are:

National Defence & Security
Banking & Finance
Information & Communications <---- All of you working in IT doing web/mobile apps/sites..
Energy
Transportation
Water
Health Services
Government <------------ This is the impression you get in the bill, but look at the rest of them besides this!
Emergency Services
Food & Agriculture



This basically covers ALL industries with major IT jobs and what you have here is a Communist style central governance.

Don't go believe those who keep saying CNII applies only to Government!

CNII definition in the bill is basically a


TROJAN HORSE BLANK CHEQUE where they can REDEFINE it outside the bill AS AND WHEN THEY WISH TO COVER ANY NEW INDUSTRIES.

This post has been edited by sfx3000: Dec 14 2011, 03:16 PM
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post Dec 8 2011, 08:49 PM

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reliable source from OSS participant who was there to view the draft. he is the one who uploaded it.


http://twitter.com/kaerumy

http://twitter.com/spoonfork
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post Dec 8 2011, 08:50 PM

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New link for draft you can comment.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1j1VC50E...?hl=en_US&pli=1
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post Dec 8 2011, 08:56 PM

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Anyone caught working as Software Developer, diploma or degree or not, without being licensed by government, will be fined 20k or jailed 6 months.


The key is, the criteria for licensing would be very vague and prone to abuse.


Malaysia is probably the other country to implement this law other than Nigeria (pariah country)


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post Dec 8 2011, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(ynot @ Dec 8 2011, 10:05 PM)
well, if it is done in a proper manner.... ?
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Which crap by the govt has ever been done in a proper manner?

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post Dec 8 2011, 10:42 PM

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This is a way they consolidate and steal industries from private companies to give to their own cronies.
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post Dec 8 2011, 11:41 PM

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We all should band together and get some maids from Indonesia as gifts to him so he'll leave us alone.
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post Dec 9 2011, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(Lord_Ashe @ Dec 9 2011, 02:10 PM)
If you notice, PIKOM and even MDeC has been suspiciously silent on this issue.
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Because PIKOM and MNCC is involved in pushing and drafting the bill I heard.

Trojan horse associations.
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post Dec 9 2011, 08:28 PM

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I edited original post to include the KEYWORD... CNII's definition and industry coverage.


This is the blank cheque in the bill! It is defined outside of the bill and can change anytime to suit as they wish.
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post Dec 13 2011, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(wacrop @ Dec 13 2011, 10:19 AM)
Easy man,It just a draft. I think it wont get approved in the end.
Trust me.


Added on December 13, 2011, 10:22 amIf this law being approved , i will sure migrate to Singapore liao.
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https://twitter.com/#!/eemay/status/146419411383894016

#cpb2011 seems to be already decided. Open day doesn't look like it is to hear public feedback, but just to tell the public more bullsh*t
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post Dec 13 2011, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(sfx3000 @ Dec 13 2011, 10:48 AM)
https://twitter.com/#!/eemay/status/146419411383894016

#cpb2011 seems to be already decided. Open day doesn't look like it is to hear public feedback, but just to tell the public more bullsh*t
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https://twitter.com/#!/eemay/status/146419873319358465

IT public sounds very very furious in this open day. #cpb2011
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post Dec 13 2011, 10:50 AM

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Everyone go twitter and search ALL for #CPB2011 and read all the real-time news at MOSTI gathering!
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post Dec 13 2011, 10:58 AM

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IT IS WAR!!!


WAR!

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post Dec 14 2011, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(Joey Christensen @ Dec 14 2011, 12:07 PM)
You didn't read properly. There's a catch. If you could read one more time, there's the big "if" word.
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Indeed.. no it's not dead.

They will 'improvise' it.



http://www.nst.com.my/local/general/it-bil...lexible-1.19036


'IT bill will be flexible'


PUTRAJAYA: The proposed Computing Professionals Bill (CPB) 2011 will be improvised if the need arises.

Deputy Science, Technology and Innovation Minister Datuk Fadillah Yusof said there was a public outcry against the bill.

"We will make the necessary improvements, depending on the needs," he said, adding that information technology professionals had expressed their concerns through social media.

The professionals claimed that the bill would stifle innovation among industry members. The ministry yesterday held an open day to gather feedback on the proposed bill. Fadillah said the event was held after an industrial dialogue session. Many concerns were raised, including the difficulties of implementing the bill.

Read more: 'IT bill will be flexible' - General - New Straits Times http://www.nst.com.my/local/general/it-bil...6#ixzz1gUBELDSC

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post Dec 15 2011, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(elblink @ Dec 15 2011, 09:10 AM)
Why we are not surprised at all?

Dear <certain famous MNCs>, your founder also dropped out of college/uni & started you from his basement....no certification whatsoever.
Have you forgotten yo?

Why do you have to make things ALSO difficult for us who are smaller than you?

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Yea.... I find it ironic so many people use Microsoft and Apple as their rolemodel example against #CPB2011


Turns out these are the ones lobbying for the bill under PIKOM, and also at the same time, they probably promised our govt wide powers under ambigous CNII.


Then you have Tan Sri Vincent tan's IT arm under MOL ganesh on the council too..

And eGenting.... notorious gambling/casino legal Kongsi Gelap organisation exploiting IT grads for immoral business.

http://www.pikom.org.my/cms/General.asp?wh...=22716&CatID=60



My my my, no wonder Academic circle also support the BILL.


Academic circle in Malaysia is one of MS's STRONGEST base because they are heavily influenced and buy edu version of MS products on huge discounts.


They're the easiest to be manipulated by these corporations and hence at the MOSTI panel, software patents are one of the objectives to be introduced in the industry. They even said if you are certified by MS/Oracle, you don't need to worry about the bill.


Like this, these MNCs can crush SME and small/competitive vendors that rely on OSS solutions/tools.


Clearly a CARTEL in the making, sleeping with the government, offering them more control over rights of dissent use of IT.


NWO New World Order in the making. *lmao*



http://www.opensource.org/statements/CPTN
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/01/12/cp...s_from_germany/
http://techrights.org/2011/01/11/cartels-and-escapes/

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post Dec 15 2011, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(elblink @ Dec 15 2011, 10:29 AM)
Well put!

The academic circle are mostly concerned with producing students to fulfill the trend of the big boys, so that the students have jobs to work along the same big boys who controls the market.

It's all about business now, education is about what we want you to know and follow, not we want you to think for yourself & think out of the box.

In 2 words, modern slavery. Subtly done until many people doesn't realised it at all or won't believe it is real.

Singapore is already a NWO playground, Malaysia is showing more signs of getting there soon.
Unless we realised it early and stop it fast.

The show up at the MOSTI open day is a good start for all IT people.
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First, we have to accept and recognize the goons engaged by geeks/nerds at MOSTI are mostly just PATSIES.


These are dime a dozen people these cartel/corporations can pick from anywhere.


IT Geeks/Nerds need to look at the bigger picture. It's no longer just a politic/govt issue.

Foreign corporations are getting their hands dirty as well, sleeping in bed with our govt, to consolidate our rights and enslave us totally.


PIKOM is their agent/vector in infiltration and subduing us.


We need to stop blaming just the govt. There're other forces at work in the private sector and we all have to wake up.


This is not just happening in Malaysia. We're a testbed but soon this similar style Corp takeover using govt approach that will show itself all over the world soon or already has.


IT Geeks/Nerds are too preoccupied with a limited world view (their own geek/nerd world) to see everything else happening in the real world.


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post Dec 19 2011, 03:01 PM

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We have a big problem.


The consensus is we DON'T want any bill/LAW to govern computing profession.


But now there're nerds/geeks taking advantage to represent everyone, and they will help draft the bill to be put into LAW.



Trojan horses surfacing among the IT/Nerd/Geeks community.



The struggle is to kill the bill of any kind.


Now you have these idiots coming out saying they're the professional community, helping to modify the CPB2011 bill so it can be made into law.



Beware of MOSTI's planted moles !
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post Dec 21 2011, 05:15 PM

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Hey my posts in page 22 has been deleted.. why is this so ? Any mods wanna clarify ?

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