well as they say, football is round...but to suggest epl teams cant compete in CL based on one season alone is even more horrendous

you think so?.... i think the thought of EPL top 2 leader gone out at group stage more horrendous to me...

i sure do 

well, i dont think its wrong to support other clubs eventhough they're arch-rival to your fav club pun

example : i support chelsea to beat City this weekend 

dunno bout the others, but i support football first before the clubs..
tak semestinya kelab tu arch-rival then u cant support that clubs/watch them play/buy their jersey or watsoever..

dude
your argument is a moot point

assuming you're manu fan, you would want chelsea to win so that city dont extend their lead in the table
its understandable
the benefit, is coming back to your team in the sense that the gap doesnt grow bigger

but if you're manu fan hoping liverpool to beat ac milan in UCL final for example, is rather foolish
why would you want your arch rival to win a trophy
get what i mean?

Shallow? Haha I dunno but one thing I do notice is that every time you post, you add in some personal attack in your post and I would expect that someone who claimed to be knowing more, should at least behave like one instead like posting like a prick.

Yes, I do know how intense the rivalry between Barca and RM is. I know. Just because you are one of the Barca fans do not mean you know more than I do. I read up probably as much as you do. What I m trying to point out is that DO NOT RULE OUT POSSIBILITY and up until now, all we talking about this and that were all based on our own assumptions. How would you know Sneijder wont even move to Barca?

Tevez moves to mancity from manutd.

Paul ince moved to liverpool despite playing for manutd once.

Oh wait, do you even know Paul Ince? Or your era revolves only in the likes of Messi, Ronaldo and kaka?

Remember Luis Figo and the transfer?
And I know which part you are coming for defense... these are not their favourite clubs. Equally doubtful on what you said that Sneijder is a RM fans, how can you trust what footballers said nowadays? I have seen enough from players that move to bigger clubs and claimed to be their supporters since young , only to move to other big clubs in future for better wages and future. Bullshits. They said that to earn the supports from the crowds. That's the way I see it.

I have seen fernando Torres doing that, kissing badge, saying Liverpool is his only English club, only to see him moving to Chelsea.

Recently I have seen Luis Suarez talking about him supporting Liverpool since young and I have no doubt one day he will leave as well.

So what makes you think Sneidjer said that he supported RM out of sincerity? That's doubtful to me....

I think it's absurd. I'd never root for my rival. I'm surprised you've come across such people because I don't know any Liverpool fan who would root for Man Utd.

I did, and he's a avid Pool fan. He said he rather Man Utd win the Champions League than Barca when those 2 met.

In that case, I'd actually question is he is an avid fan?

In the case of England's top two sides being knocked out, I actually think it's a complement to the Premiership, that the next 2 ranked sides progressed. Shows strength in depth no?

I think that fans are more like I support an EPL club and I rather see EPL club won than others

In other words, EPL fans. not weird actually. since most of us are not indirectly "related" with one club. ( I meant locally)

oh well... to be fair the thought of EPL top 2 leader gone out at group still horrendous this season...

and that only haappens because people still have high expectation of EPL teams..

oh...he's being a prick? So, taking a cheap shot by saying some thread here is quiet this week is not? Hypocrites. You need mirror?

The thing is the rivalry between Liverpool and manutd fans are probably more intense than you can imagine. If they support us when we playing City, i can understand because they would want us to help them to play catch up with City in league standing. In other competition, i think they would rather see us ended up trophyless.

so nope, I think manutd fans support Liverpool for a match other than for their own benefit is RARE

In that case, I'd actually question is he is an avid fan?

In the case of England's top two sides being knocked out, I actually think it's a complement to the Premiership, that the next 2 ranked sides progressed. Shows strength in depth no?

The thing is the rivalry between Liverpool and manutd fans are probably more intense than you can imagine. If they support us when we playing City, i can understand because they would want us to help them to play catch up with City in league standing. In other competition, i think they would rather see us ended up trophyless.

so nope, I think manutd fans support Liverpool for a match other than for their own benefit is RARE

I wonder y ppl keep saying if barca and rm plays in epl, no other epl team will win epl.

If they were in epl, I guess they will bankrupt first because they can't monopoly the tv revenues. Lol

Anyway no hard feelings to any supporters. Ucl it's a competition. Luck plays apart whenever we agree or not. Unless a team from a country winning more times in a row, there is no domination. Barca n rm are only favourites.

#justsaying

hahaha... If they were in epl, they wont be as good as they are now. They would only be at Manchester United or Liverpool's level at best...

I brought this issue up because personally, I know dozens of people and my friends who have this mentality
which raised my eyebrow whether they are true fans or just "following the crowds"

since football (especially epl) is a trend in the last 10 years or so in msia

The thing is the rivalry between Liverpool and manutd fans are probably more intense than you can imagine. If they support us when we playing City, i can understand because they would want us to help them to play catch up with City in league standing. In other competition, i think they would rather see us ended up trophyless.

so nope, I think manutd fans support Liverpool for a match other than for their own benefit is RARE

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Added on December 10, 2011, 5:27 pm
Well, the thought of RM didnt do well in CL in the past few seasons still horrendous as well...after all how much money they spent over the year. Another reason I am amazed why someone can regard RM above the EPL teams after how RM finished in CL the last few seasons. Just because they won it 9 times in the past? Gimme a break.

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Added on December 10, 2011, 5:29 pm
Cheap shot? I think someone need mirror  and a reality check on how Football Lounge is going on for the past few years. All the trolls in the rival threads every time the manutd rivals lose out regardless of whether manutd playing against them or not.... You need me to name out all these trolls?

Maybe u shud think before you speak. God give you brain for a reason.

In that case, I'd actually question is he is an avid fan?

In the case of England's top two sides being knocked out, I actually think it's a complement to the Premiership, that the next 2 ranked sides progressed. Shows strength in depth no?

Viewpoint A - BPL best league in the world because they are the most entertaining league in the world. I mean top to bottom teams, most of the game are entertaining. I wouldn't be so sure about La Liga.

Viewpoint B - La Liga is the best league in the world because they have the strongest teams in the world in the mould of Barca and Real.