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post Mar 19 2012, 12:37 AM

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QUOTE(whchong3 @ Mar 18 2012, 03:41 PM)
hi... i am a student. can i know what is contract (amendment act)?
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An amendment act is to add/vary certain section of the principal act. In this case, the Contracts Act 1950. The only amendment act for this Act would be one in 1976, which pretty much adds in sections on scholarships agreements.
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post Mar 19 2012, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(soujiro_seta @ Mar 19 2012, 02:17 AM)
Hi.

I would like to ask about discrepancy of First Schedule in SnP to the purchased parcel.
The purchased parcel is intermediate unit of a service apartment, but layout shown in SnP was a corner unit which result to less nos. of windows (as corner unit commonly have more windows at the corner side).
Besides, the SnP did not stated that the purchased parcel would be intermediate unit but only by general perception of the purchaser through the storey layout.
That leads the purchaser to assume that the window could still be constructed as per in the unit's layout.
Does the purchaser can dispute the matter with the developer?  hmm.gif

Thanks.
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If you dispute it, the developer can say that it was a genuine mistake and that the correct layout for the intermediate unit ought to have been annexed. I can't see how you can dispute it and ask for the same layout as a corner unit. It just doesn't make sense. Unless you want a window to join with your next door neighbour's side wall? rclxub.gif
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post Mar 19 2012, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(jay5840 @ Mar 19 2012, 10:50 AM)
I just received letter from developer that my strata titles are ready to be claimed. Normally, the legals fee and the stamp duty are based on the current market price or the purchasing price?
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Price in the SPA. nod.gif
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post Mar 19 2012, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(simtien @ Mar 19 2012, 04:22 PM)
Hi, I am selling my house at the price of RM75k, leasehold. I owned that house for roughly 20 years. I am engaging the same lawyer who is from the purchaser.

As I understand, all legal fees and misc. fees will be bared by the purchaser. However, today, the lawyer told me that I need to pay to them RM702 which includes the processing fees for CHKT and some other disbursement fees. Is it true?

MUST I pay the fees? Or do I have the right to refuse to pay? Honestly speaking, I am very unhappy with this lawyer as they didn't inform anything about this at the very first stage.

If I really must pay for those fees, can you please tell me what are those fees?

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Yes you do have to pay such fees if you appoint them to do so.

CKHT 1A is RM300 per pax which is fixed. The rest of it must be disbursements. I assume that your loan has been fully settled so there's no redemption and discharge of charge to prepare. Otherwise, you would have to pay more. You ought to request for a detailed invoice/note of charges so that you know what you are being billed for.

If the only outstanding thing is filing of then CKHT 1A form then you might as well do it on your own, provided you know how to do so. Perhaps you would need to contact LHDN hotline to find out the procedure and visit a branch to find out how to fill up the form. Filing is free and you can download the forms from the LHDN website.

Purchaser pays full scaled fees which are much higher than the ones you are paying. So you can't compare with that.


QUOTE(simtien @ Mar 19 2012, 04:22 PM)
By the way, I also understand that after the booking fees paid by the purchaser, I should signing the S&P and receive my 10% deposit in 14 working days right? If it is delayed, do I have any right to penalty them, and what will be the terms and condition.
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Did you sign a letter of offer to purchase or any other agreement when the booking fees are paid? If yes, then go by the terms of that document. Otherwise, there's nothing to bind the parties in any way. There is no law which fixes the SPA to be signed within 14 days from the date of payment of booking fees/earnest deposit. All terms and conditions ought to have been ironed out before the booking fees/earnest deposit is paid to you.

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post Mar 20 2012, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(simtien @ Mar 19 2012, 05:00 PM)
So, apart from the RM300 for CKHT 1A, is it a MUST for me (as the seller) to pay the disbursement fees?

Do you mind to share with me what are the standard disbursement fees involved?

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I've already advised you to ask for a breakdown of the fees involved. You can find out more there.


QUOTE(simtien @ Mar 19 2012, 05:00 PM)
By the way, any possibility that I can ask discounts from the lawyer?
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Go to the first page of this thread and read the rules, in particular rule no.4
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post Mar 20 2012, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(simtien @ Mar 19 2012, 11:52 PM)
Bro, some other questions that hope you can assist:

1. Do I need to submit my geran to the lawyer during I sign S&P?
2. The lawyer told me that during the time of signing MOT, the purchaser will pay the remaining balance to the lawyer, then after roughly 14 days, the lawyer will only release the money to me. Is it true?

Thank you.
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Both your questions depend on what is agreed in the SPA. Of course you have to submit the original geran to the Purchaser's Lawyer but WHEN you submit the geran to him is up to how parties agree for it in the SPA.
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post Mar 20 2012, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(syy @ Mar 19 2012, 05:14 PM)
Hi, I would like to know what is the difference between Geran Mukim & Hakmilik Sementara (bersamaan dengan hakmilik pejabat tanah). Both are freehold land. I have noticed that my house title is also under hakmilik sementara although it is freehold. Thanks.
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GM is a final title where the boundaries are permanent. Hakmilik Sementara, whether it is HSM or HSD, is a temporary title where the final boundaries are not yet determined and finalised. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Mar 20 2012, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(syy @ Mar 20 2012, 02:26 PM)
oic, when will the Hakmilik Sementara will become GM?
And if I'm going to buy the land, is there any chance that the lot will become smaller?
(sorry, absolutely zero knowledge abt this)  sweat.gif
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You need to ask the land office on that. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Mar 22 2012, 07:53 AM

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QUOTE(westlife @ Mar 21 2012, 02:02 PM)
dear dariofoo,

may i ask a qns?

if i signed the SNP and loan agreement (bank) for a property one month ago, is it possible for me to cancel the agreement (means i do not want to buy the house anymore) by paying penalty or so?

I had paid so far rm2k booking fee for the property.

the legal fee for both SNP and loan agreements are absorbed by the developer.
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Once you have signed the SPA, you are bound by it. If you want out, then you need to refer to the relevant clauses in the SPA for assistance.

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post Mar 22 2012, 07:54 AM

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QUOTE(alvinchien1981 @ Mar 21 2012, 07:37 PM)
Hi Dario,

Could you advise if this cost make sence?

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Please refer to the many samples in v1 of this thread. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(manemaren @ Mar 21 2012, 11:53 PM)
What is "CONSENT OF THE STATE AUTHORITY".. I am selling my condo which I have owned for more than 10 years.

Any idea how much this gonna cost me? Condo is in Ampang, Selangor area...
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Consent of State Authority is a condition precedent attached to a particular title. It means that your property cannot be charged, transferred or subdivided without the consent of the State Authority. Consent is obtained via an application in a prescribed form. It is done once the SPA is signed and time would not start to run until consent is obtained. If somehow, consent is not obtained, you can appeal. Otherwise, the SPA is aborted and you would have to refund the deposit collected to the purchaser.

Did you mean how much does it cost to apply for consent? Your lawyer would do it for you as it is part of his duties when acting for you. Legal fees just for consent is RM300 while there would be some registration/filing fees which would not cost more than RM200 in total.

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QUOTE(Llittlestar @ Mar 22 2012, 04:53 PM)
Dear Dariofoo,

I've bought a house last year. The house & loan is under my brother & my name.
Is there any way to take out/withdraw my name fm the house, like transfer/sell to other family member?
Thank you.
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Please read the earlier posts in this thread as a similar question has been asked and I've answered it in length already. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Mar 23 2012, 08:02 PM

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QUOTE(101011001 @ Mar 22 2012, 11:08 PM)
Hi there,

The buyer has paid 2% earnest deposit for my apartment unit and will be signing the S&P in the coming week. I would like to seek your advice on whether as a seller, I shall appoint my own lawyer or use back the same lawyer as the buyer.

The legal fees difference is about 3k. If I were to use the buyer's lawyer, is there anything I need to take note of? Any terms in the S&P that could possibly put me at disadnvantage? My intention is to get the payment as soon as possible.

Appreciate your advice on this.

Thanks in advance.
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This question has been posed and discussed at length in the earlier part of this thread. Please take a look. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Mar 23 2012, 08:07 PM

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QUOTE(Fasap @ Mar 23 2012, 12:57 AM)
Interesting topic here.. I have two questions:

1. is the buyer directly bound by the S&P once signed? or it is only going to be bound once LHDN stamping is done? Is there any case, say before S&P go thru stamping, the buyer can forfeit the S&P? Yes, the deposit will be forfeited, but will there be any other penalties and how much to expect to pay? I understand it will be written in the S&P clauses, but just for a quick one, what are the usual you've came across with?

2. How about this scenario, Buyer A decided to buy House X (under construction), and after signing the S&P, Buyer A went to site and saw the build quality of House X is very bad and due to this wants to cancel his purchase. Suddenly, comes Buyer B, which would like to buy House X due to other units of the project sold out, he approach Buyer A to ask for his House X. Is it possible for buyer A to 'let go' of House X to Buyer B after the fact the S&P has been signed? will this also falls under the case of cancelling the S&P?

Thanks for you effort and time Dariofoo!  thumbup.gif
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1. You are bound once you sign it. Doesn't matter if it is stamped or not. In any event, stamping is only RM10/copy and that can be done by the other party at any time. Even if have not signed but have merely agreed in writing that the draft is ok and ready for signing, that is enough to bind you.

Normally if seller defaults - refund deposit plus another 10% as damages. If purchaser defaults - 10% deposit paid forfeited by vendor as damages.

2. a) Buyer A cannot just cancel the purchase just because he thinks that the 'built is bad' just by observing it. In any event, there is a defect liability period after construction so that ought to cover any problems that crop up after the property has been completed.

b) Buyer A can execute a SPA via sub-sale to Buyer B provided that the developer has no objection to it. See what is written in the SPA.
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QUOTE(lovepark4444 @ Mar 23 2012, 11:30 AM)
I have seen this question many times and answer by Mr.Foo........You hardworking try look back previous few pages of lawyer corner V2 and lawyer corner the answer is the same with yours......even it is painful for the eyes and time consuming but worth the learning.

If you appoint your own lawyer...........you interest is well protected and if you tumpang the buyer lawyer mean that you are unrepresented and taking the risk being taken advantage. (heard many times)  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(lovepark4444 @ Mar 23 2012, 11:30 AM)
even it is painful for the eyes and time consuming but worth the learning.

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Sorry bro if my words hurts your eyes. notworthy.gif Hope the pain is less with some good medication taken. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(ganhuakin @ Mar 23 2012, 12:04 PM)
so how do i go about making a black and white document stating how much utilities i should pay? is there a certain format or guideline that i should use or is it base on both of us to agree upon?
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You can appoint a lawyer to do it, or you can draft it on your own. Use Google to get some idea on simple contract templates and surely you can draft it. Terms are to be agreed upon by both parties so there might be a few exchanges of drafts via email before it can be executed. A bit of headache now to prevent bigger headaches later. icon_rolleyes.gif
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Thanks for the questions. A breath of fresh air indeed. The first page of this thread is clear - legal queries on any topics are welcomed and i'll try to assist where possible. I remember in v1 of this thread there was even an interesting question on criminal law. thumbup.gif

1. "If i'm brain dead and/or...
..i do not wish to be kept alive on machines or resuscitated.."


- I don't think that you can do this in writing legally. Are you authorising someone to authorise a doctor to "end your life"? I think you can verbally communicate this to your family members and I'm sure they'll respect your wishes and do the necessary to "unplug" you from this life. sweat.gif

PS: The likelihood of them respecting your wishes are more likely if you have a lot of assets which are waiting to be disbursed upon you being "unplugged". Bet they're all going ----> drool.gif drool.gif when reading your Will beforehand. laugh.gif

..donate my organs to...

Fill up the organ donation form now while you're alive. You can put it in your Will and attach the form at the back as an annexure to quell any doubts.


..cremate my remains and just a simple Christian funeral..

This can be reflected in your Will. Perhaps you want to define what simple Christian funeral means. Once again, how this wish is "fulfilled" depends on your family, right? If not, what can be done? Rise from the dead and sue the executor for breach of duty? sweat.gif sweat.gif

2. This area is quite tricky. If you get a Court Order in Malaysia with regard to your assets, it can include assets out of the jurisdiction of the High Court of Malaya/Sabah & S'wak BUT you would need to enforce it in their respective countries.

Now, here's the deal - you would need to check if the other country is one included in the Reciprocal Enforcement of Judgements Act 1958.

www.agc.gov.my/Akta/Vol.%202/Act%2099.pdf

If so, then the HC order can be registered and enforced there without the need to start probate proceedings all over again there.

If not, then you would need to file fresh proceedings there for probate in respect of property in the sole jurisdiction of that country. As to the law and procedure AND whether a separate will must be drawn up by a will-writer/lawyer in that country, that would refer to the separate law in relation to Probate of that country involved. icon_rolleyes.gif

3. Not sure about this pre-nups. I don't think this is illegal. You can do it. Let me check it out, as I'm not 100% sure on this.


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post Mar 23 2012, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(applepie111 @ Mar 23 2012, 03:41 PM)
Hi DarioFoo,

Me and my husband bought a house about ten years ago. The house is still under loan and both S&P  and also the house loan have both name.  He already move out about 2 years and we in mist of divorce.  He want his name to transfer to son.  I think the lawyer might told him that he can't transfer due to son is only 7 years old. So he said he will transfer his share only when our son is 18 years old.  And even his lawyer called me and said this to save the legal fees costs.

1) It is true that the house can't be transfer to a child below 18 years?
2) He refuse to transfer his share to me.  What other options such as is there a property trust can be done? If yes, where to find such service?
3) If he decide not to transfer his share after a decade, can he do so  if the divorce conditions stated that his share to be transfer to his son?
4) If the loan is settle in 5 years later, what need to be done after that, the house in both name? Have to wait till 11 years later then only can transfer?
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1. True. Under the Age of Majority Act 1971, a person only attains age of majority at 18. Until then, any property which is intended to be transferred in favour of the minor must be held by a trustee.

2. Deed of Trust. Lawyer can do it. I think will-writing companies provide such services as well.

3. The order can't state for it to be transferred to the son. It must appoint a trustee to hold it in trust on behalf of the son.

4. If cannot settle, have to wait. I can't see any other way.

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QUOTE(tantung @ Mar 24 2012, 11:54 AM)
Hi Dario,

Since almost all posts are about legal fees, I'm wondering if you can help provide advise in another matter.

My apartment unit was broken into late last year. The JMB has a "tidak apa" attitude and until now there hasn't been any steps taken to ensure that the security has been beefed up. As I don't have theft insurance on my unit, I heard that one can file an insurance claim for their losses against the JMB's insurance under their Professional Negligence Insurance/Protection.

Would you be able to advise on this matter?

Edit: I've actually started another post on this as I feel that this could help others. Apologies for the multi-post: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2278922
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The JMB can be successfully sued for damages only if you can prove that they are negligent. I am of the opinion that the JMB CAN be found liable for negligence for theft/break-in of the individual units in the following circumstances:

1. If the JMB collected monies for security purposes and established security requirements for the condo - i.e. access card, boom gate, security guards (who also patrol around the units), CCTV system. If such system were initially in place and perhaps it was not well-maintained or the guards employed were negligent.

* the above argument is not 100% as the JMB can always use the reason that the security is to protect the common property of the condo. They will say that they do not have the responsibility to protect the individual units. So, there's no right or wrong answer there. It's all up to the arguments and the evidence in support. If you claim negligence, then you have to show it.


2. If it were the guards themselves who did it @ inside job. This would depend on your police report and the keputusan kes.

* if this is the case, then you have a clear cut case against the JMB. The JMB would then bring in the security company in as a third party and claim indemnity from them. You sue the JMB as your nexus is with them. You can't sue the security company directly. If the keputusan kes can support your contention, your case is much stronger than in situation 1.

Bear in mind that you need to prove your losses. If you claim that you lost jewelry, receipts must be shown. Same goes for other items. If monies were lost, then your bank accounts would have to be produced as evidence of withdrawal of the said monies.

My advice is a bit different from the advice dished out by other forummers in the thread - whom all seem to suggest that you can't sue. I am of the opinion that you can, but gather your facts and evidence and seek professional advice first before deciding whether to proceed.

PS: Don't stay in the same place if you decide to sue the JMB. Bad idea. If you want to sue them, it's best to live elsewhere. If you have no alternative but to remain, I would advise you against suing them.

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post Mar 26 2012, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(realcyma @ Mar 24 2012, 01:03 PM)
buy condo from dev, in my s&p, there is a exit term, if buyer do not buy, need to pay 10%.

when it sold, there is a 10% rebate.  so, i did not pay any when i signed s&p.

now, if i withdraw.......does that '10% rebate' count? do i need to pay 10% real MONEY? or, i can just walk away?
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