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gajian88
post Apr 15 2015, 07:09 AM

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ZEFER VP with no electricity and water supply until today..is it allowable? My architect friend also feel unbelievable.
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post Apr 15 2015, 08:01 AM

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post Apr 15 2015, 08:03 AM

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QUOTE(servo118 @ Apr 14 2015, 11:42 PM)
If  looking at the picture above, Come on OBEE , a middle class secondary student who learnt  "Kemahiran Hidup" would know the DB box was installed far a way from any water pipe.

Your common knowledge impressed me KAW KAW!
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so much debate over a small matter.

DB position is okay lah. in fact makes it convenient to conceal inside cabinets.
even though conventionally DB is located near the entrance door for ease of checking on it upon entry and finding the unit without power in the evening. chill guys.

QUOTE(gajian88 @ Apr 15 2015, 07:09 AM)
ZEFER VP with no electricity and water supply until today..is it allowable? My architect friend also feel unbelievable.
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i can't believe how ignorant your architect friend is.
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post Apr 15 2015, 08:16 AM

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QUOTE(kochin @ Apr 15 2015, 08:03 AM)
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so much debate over a small matter.

DB position is okay lah. in fact makes it convenient to conceal inside cabinets.
even though conventionally DB is located near the entrance door for ease of checking on it upon entry and finding the unit without power in the evening. chill guys.
i can't believe how ignorant your architect friend is.
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Mean nowadays VP with no electricity and water is very comman and is normal procedure?There are feel Ppl out there even tribunal say y they can VP with no water supply..I'm confuaing now..who are the most ignorant here
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post Apr 15 2015, 08:18 AM

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QUOTE(gajian88 @ Apr 15 2015, 08:16 AM)
Mean nowadays VP with no electricity and water is very comman and is normal procedure?There are feel Ppl out there even tribunal say y they can VP with no water supply..I'm confuaing now..who are the most ignorant here
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you only have 1 legal document with the developer.
i suggest you read it properly.
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post Apr 15 2015, 08:42 AM

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QUOTE(gajian88 @ Apr 15 2015, 08:16 AM)
Mean nowadays VP with no electricity and water is very comman and is normal procedure?There are feel Ppl out there even tribunal say y they can VP with no water supply..I'm confuaing now..who are the most ignorant here
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Is VP without water and electricity supply the main reason to call in the media reporters?
Give other people some time to do their job la bro! My friend said mgmt told her TNB has already started installing individual meter in stages

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post Apr 15 2015, 08:49 AM

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QUOTE(madtalk @ Apr 15 2015, 08:01 AM)
Those who shout alot and demand basic necessity are those who bought a HOME , not merely a house

I'm sure those who say HOMEbuyers childish will with no second thoughts flip the property in seconds.

We are here for the long run, so we demand better products
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Mind to share what kind of basic necessity not provided by developer as now?

Please don't think people who has different opinion is flippers. Some time the request and demand has to be moderate and reasonable. No harm to demand better products as it is consumer rights. But before that, it is better for you to QUANTIFY it.
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post Apr 15 2015, 09:16 AM

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QUOTE(madtalk @ Apr 15 2015, 08:01 AM)
Those who shout alot and demand basic necessity are those who bought a HOME , not merely a house

I'm sure those who say HOMEbuyers childish will with no second thoughts flip the property in seconds.

We are here for the long run, so we demand better products
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Hey Madtalk, either flippers or own stay is individual's decision. Why you so busybody about? Nobody getting their unit free, they paid amount of money!

Hey Obee, don't keep quiet! Shout out loud your INCREDIBLE THOUGHT on the relationship between the location of DB box, water pipe and disaster according to the picture!!!

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post Apr 15 2015, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(servo118 @ Apr 15 2015, 09:16 AM)
Hey Madtalk, either flippers or own stay is individual's decision. Why you so busybody about? Nobody getting their unit free, they paid amount of money!

Hey Obee, don't keep quiet! Shout out loud your INCREDIBLE THOUGHT on the relationship between the location of DB box, water pipe and disaster according to the picture!!!
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Servo gor, i understand your feel sweat.gif
Quote from Kochin tai gor, DB box is small matter and its position is ok lah.

Regardless own stay, rent or flip, every owner is paid for it.
We cannot said because want for own stay, then we can demand better products and when the finished product doesn't meet expectations, then call the media in to exaggerate it! This is unfair to other owners.

The decision to call the media shall through a formal channel, so that all owners are well noted. Not because you can gathered support inside the social media group, then you can act on behalf of other owners which not inside the group

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post Apr 15 2015, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(servo118 @ Apr 14 2015, 11:42 PM)
If  looking at the picture above, Come on OBEE , a middle class secondary student who learnt  "Kemahiran Hidup" would know the DB box was installed far a way from any water pipe.

Your common knowledge impressed me KAW KAW!
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Wow. Mocking my intelligence with education level. Have I done anything to ruin your lovely day? Lol.

Saying the box is place "far away" is an overstatement. Sure it's not close to a water source but placing it in the kitchen is just not practical. What would you feel if that's done in your own home?

You sound so angry over my concern. Why is that? I came in peace and you are making a big deal out of it. Sigh. People these days rolleyes.gif
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post Apr 15 2015, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(ZackQ @ Apr 15 2015, 12:06 AM)
@obee has a concern the DB box at current location will prone to disaster.
I will put it this way, hazardous area zone classification is same inside the condo unit regardless is in kitchen, living room or entrance foyer. There is no blast wall. So if fire happen inside the condo, DB box location at entrance foyer can be exempted from disaster? May be next time DB box should place inside fire proof safe box then hmm.gif

With ID design, this box can be covered. However in terms of Human Factor Enginnering, i would say the current DB box location may not friendly for accesibility and operability, especially after covered by wardrobe  mad.gif Then only owners furious is make sense
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Before that servo dude come in blasting his thoughts again, I thank you for your feedback. Finally some constructive discussion whistling.gif

I do agree with simple ID design with the kitchen cabinet the DB box can be concealed. Fine by me. Extra money to be spent and less space for storage. Oh well. Life is full of surprises.

Same as the piping at the top corner of the ceiling. If placed at Wet Kitchen/Yard area then the owners have a choice to plaster or not. In this case, no choice lor. Lol.

Again, as a first time buyer I have my concerns and doubts with my first property. Just hope the sifus and taikors here can help guide/share knowledge. If I said something wrong then I apologize. Peace... icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Apr 15 2015, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(obee @ Apr 15 2015, 11:00 AM)
Before that servo dude come in blasting his thoughts again, I thank you for your feedback. Finally some constructive discussion whistling.gif

I do agree with simple ID design with the kitchen cabinet the DB box can be concealed. Fine by me. Extra money to be spent and less space for storage. Oh well. Life is full of surprises.

Same as the piping at the top corner of the ceiling. If placed at Wet Kitchen/Yard area then the owners have a choice to plaster or not. In this case, no choice lor. Lol.

Again, as a first time buyer I have my concerns and doubts with my first property. Just hope the sifus and taikors here can help guide/share knowledge. If I said something wrong then I apologize. Peace... icon_rolleyes.gif
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Bro, don't la call ppl dude. Everyone here is tai gor thumbup.gif
I guess Servo gor is same with my friend, who wondering why a DB box can be one of the hot issue among owners until can call the media sweat.gif In fact I already justified your concern, and hope your neighbours understand as well.

Hope you enjoy your future home and the nice view on top of the hill thumbup.gif
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post Apr 15 2015, 11:20 AM

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Yes, the DB box can be concealed with kitchen cabinet.. just sacrifice one storage space only.
Same goes for the exposed piping at the kitchen ceiling, do plastered ceiling to conceal it.

Since new condo usually need some renovation can nego with contractor to give discount for those 2 odd placing item when do kitchen cabinet renovation & plastered ceiling.



QUOTE(obee @ Apr 15 2015, 11:00 AM)
Before that servo dude come in blasting his thoughts again, I thank you for your feedback. Finally some constructive discussion whistling.gif

I do agree with simple ID design with the kitchen cabinet the DB box can be concealed. Fine by me. Extra money to be spent and less space for storage. Oh well. Life is full of surprises.

Same as the piping at the top corner of the ceiling. If placed at Wet Kitchen/Yard area then the owners have a choice to plaster or not. In this case, no choice lor. Lol.

Again, as a first time buyer I have my concerns and doubts with my first property. Just hope the sifus and taikors here can help guide/share knowledge. If I said something wrong then I apologize. Peace... icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Apr 15 2015, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(ZackQ @ Apr 15 2015, 11:15 AM)
Bro, don't la call ppl dude. Everyone here is tai gor  thumbup.gif
I guess Servo gor is same with my friend, who wondering why a DB box can be one of the hot issue among owners until can call the media  sweat.gif In fact I already justified your concern, and hope your neighbours understand as well.

Hope you enjoy your future home and the nice view on top of the hill  thumbup.gif
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Respect is given when it is due. Thanks, ZackQ tai gor.... laugh.gif

I do not intend to leak out info from the private group but all I can say is the owners are very disgruntled with the way Villamas project manager handled the discussion last week. I wasn't there so I cannot comment. But going to the media is a bit overkill when you didn't even give them chance to fix the defects yet. Maybe they rushing to reno and move in sweat.gif


QUOTE(viper88 @ Apr 15 2015, 11:20 AM)
Yes, the DB box can be concealed with kitchen cabinet.. just sacrifice one storage space only.
Same goes for the exposed piping at the kitchen ceiling, do plastered ceiling to conceal it.

Since new condo usually need some renovation can nego with contractor to give discount for those 2 odd placing item when do kitchen cabinet renovation & plastered ceiling.
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Yea.. No other way about that. Hopefully the contractor I am engaging can give a nice quote.

On another note, the owners are trying to rush things done so can move in before Chinese 7th month. Lol. I prefer taking things slow.

Thanks for the feedback smile.gif
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post Apr 15 2015, 12:56 PM

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post Apr 15 2015, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(madtalk @ Apr 15 2015, 12:56 PM)
ok. We shall back off from media for now while giving time for developer to rectify common area issues.

If not , we'll do a meeting again for the next step , with more solid evidence that developer is trying to delay time .
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Media section cancelled?
Then all owners after taking key, shall 'sebulat suara' to urge developer to make good on all the common area defects found and submitted, with a time frame given. Periodic checking on their rectification work also needed, to avoid developer dragging and delaying.

So far my friend's unit she still acceptable with the defects, but wasn't impressed with the material used.
She heard some units are terrible done. Depends on luck ker?? hmm.gif
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post Apr 15 2015, 01:35 PM

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Looking at the pic the db box really ugly, it shd be placed higher as current height is reacheable by kids.... the exposed piping also ugly....
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post Apr 15 2015, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(d.storey @ Apr 15 2015, 01:35 PM)
Looking at the pic the db box really ugly, it shd be placed higher as current height is reacheable by kids.... the exposed piping also ugly....
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Well, i guess aesthetic and defects are 2 different things hmm.gif
May be this is the 1st time I heard someone want the DB box with design cover rclxms.gif

Regarding the DB box height, it was placed above the kitchen wall tiles. Standard height is 1500mm plus the DB box turning knob say another 150mm.
So, total 1650mm / 5.4' to open the DB box. May I know it still reachable by kids??

We all can comments, but before that we have to make sure the comment made is making sense or not...

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post Apr 15 2015, 06:56 PM

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maybe from the pic it doesnt look that high. But i agree with complainer it shdnt put in kitchen becuz humidity is higher there. So we tempt to hv impression it will hv higher chance to break down or cause fire
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QUOTE(d.storey @ Apr 15 2015, 06:56 PM)
maybe from the pic it doesnt look that high. But i agree with complainer it shdnt put in kitchen becuz humidity is higher there. So we tempt to hv impression it will hv higher chance to break down or cause fire
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Fui yoh..."humidity"
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