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ZackQ
post Apr 14 2015, 01:10 AM

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[quote=servo118,Apr 14 2015, 12:27 AM]
It is a "stupid-act". Currently, some of the owners are "kamikaze" minded, they fight for the sake of fight! Not aim to solve problem together with developer. Too childish!
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May be some owner looking for perfect home. I think developer biggest mistake was brand it as luxury condo (in fact sell at rm350 psf years back), then some owners expected high on it and cannot tolerate the defects. Anyway, my frens still love so much on this hilly windy place!

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post Apr 14 2015, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(obee @ Apr 14 2015, 01:51 PM)
The question is how soon can the developer 'fix' the problem sweat.gif

The DB box and the Main Switch Box is placed in the kitchen wall. No I did not mis-type that. And all the units including the high-priced ones have them placed in the kitchen. I may be a first-time home owner but placing those boxes/switches close to a water source is just a disaster waiting to happen. And if you choose to move them yourself at your own expense, warranty is void. V O I D. That is one of the reasons 'some' owners are bringing this up to the media.

I have not got my keys yet but I am both excited and scared at the same time. Sigh. Hope my unit not so bad la  unsure.gif
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The kitchen wall placing the DB box has no water piping running inside. Mind to share what kind of disaster you are concerning? If DB box place at another wall at entrance foyer (which normally do), it still expose to the fire risk if the unit is on fire.
Yes, i saw the picture of the DB box location. It did give ID a headace as it wasted some storage space (i do believe ID can come out smarter idea). But, why want to consider move the DB box since is already there? The concern on switching the DB box shouldn't be the warranty void, but is affecting the building M&E intergrity.
Btw may I know what is the main critical reason for zefer owners to call in the media press??
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post Apr 14 2015, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(obee @ Apr 14 2015, 02:47 PM)
Although the water pipe and the switch boxes are not dangerously close but you can't be too sure. Crap happens when you least expect it. I have no qualms moving/covering the box but the placement is still questionable. Will see what the management say when I get my key smile.gif
As for the main critical reason for going to the press I can't say for sure. Wasn't deeply involved with the mob. Mostly it's defects, poor workmanship, damages in some units, window leakage, certain basement parking lot 'flooding', high maintenance fee (0.31 cents/sqft), rude project manager when engaging owners,... take your pick sweat.gif
hmm. building safety issue. the fencing around the building parameter is laughable. any average adult can climb over and access the basement car park. what happens next is up to your imagination wink.gif

big piping on top of kitchen ceiling? LOL. it is also in zefer. probably a signature of Villamas. best tell your sis to find a good contractor for the ceiling.
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1) DB box placement can be questioned but if I am resident, I am more worried if owners did the DB box swithcing rather than stet at its current position.

2) I saw the picture which basement carpark with water splashed on the floor after heavy rain. I do agreed that developer shall make good on this area in terms of drainage and soil care. However, going for a mob and calling in media due to defects and poor workmanship, why don't both parties (owners & developer) settle internally instead of disclose publicly which may affect your own property image (may be owners has mindset of zero defect since this is "high end" condo as promoted by developer last time)? Again, I don't see a very strong reason to involve media, at least for this moment.

3) Sewage piping on top of kitchen ceiling? I guess this is not just VMxx solely signature right. Again, owners cannot accept this since it was sold as "high end" condo last time...

Overall, it is your own property. Going to media won't results a win-win situation for both owners and developer. Keep nego with developer and request them to make good on all the defects found. Owners need a time frame for defects to be fixed, and developer also need time to fix the defects right?

Anyway, I am anticipated to visit my friend when she moving in...and enjoying the nice million dollar Sunway night view thumbup.gif

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post Apr 14 2015, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(Greenday21 @ Apr 14 2015, 05:51 PM)
er. seems like the media thingy is true, better let it settle first, nobody want a property that price will drop right after taking keys.
all owners in this project allow to have media in ?

i go to look from outside, it look good and feel good, but for inside have to wait my friend to bring me inside.
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How to gather all owners approval to call media? My friend told me there are some social media group discussions by some owners and they just decided within their group to call media.
Are these groups have any formalities? Quite unfair for aunties & uncles purchasers who are not in their clan right...
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post Apr 15 2015, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(servo118 @ Apr 14 2015, 11:44 PM)

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@obee has a concern the DB box at current location will prone to disaster.
I will put it this way, hazardous area zone classification is same inside the condo unit regardless is in kitchen, living room or entrance foyer. There is no blast wall. So if fire happen inside the condo, DB box location at entrance foyer can be exempted from disaster? May be next time DB box should place inside fire proof safe box then hmm.gif

With ID design, this box can be covered. However in terms of Human Factor Enginnering, i would say the current DB box location may not friendly for accesibility and operability, especially after covered by wardrobe mad.gif Then only owners furious is make sense
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post Apr 15 2015, 08:42 AM

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QUOTE(gajian88 @ Apr 15 2015, 08:16 AM)
Mean nowadays VP with no electricity and water is very comman and is normal procedure?There are feel Ppl out there even tribunal say y they can VP with no water supply..I'm confuaing now..who are the most ignorant here
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Is VP without water and electricity supply the main reason to call in the media reporters?
Give other people some time to do their job la bro! My friend said mgmt told her TNB has already started installing individual meter in stages

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post Apr 15 2015, 08:49 AM

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QUOTE(madtalk @ Apr 15 2015, 08:01 AM)
Those who shout alot and demand basic necessity are those who bought a HOME , not merely a house

I'm sure those who say HOMEbuyers childish will with no second thoughts flip the property in seconds.

We are here for the long run, so we demand better products
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Mind to share what kind of basic necessity not provided by developer as now?

Please don't think people who has different opinion is flippers. Some time the request and demand has to be moderate and reasonable. No harm to demand better products as it is consumer rights. But before that, it is better for you to QUANTIFY it.
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post Apr 15 2015, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(servo118 @ Apr 15 2015, 09:16 AM)
Hey Madtalk, either flippers or own stay is individual's decision. Why you so busybody about? Nobody getting their unit free, they paid amount of money!

Hey Obee, don't keep quiet! Shout out loud your INCREDIBLE THOUGHT on the relationship between the location of DB box, water pipe and disaster according to the picture!!!
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Servo gor, i understand your feel sweat.gif
Quote from Kochin tai gor, DB box is small matter and its position is ok lah.

Regardless own stay, rent or flip, every owner is paid for it.
We cannot said because want for own stay, then we can demand better products and when the finished product doesn't meet expectations, then call the media in to exaggerate it! This is unfair to other owners.

The decision to call the media shall through a formal channel, so that all owners are well noted. Not because you can gathered support inside the social media group, then you can act on behalf of other owners which not inside the group

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post Apr 15 2015, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(obee @ Apr 15 2015, 11:00 AM)
Before that servo dude come in blasting his thoughts again, I thank you for your feedback. Finally some constructive discussion whistling.gif

I do agree with simple ID design with the kitchen cabinet the DB box can be concealed. Fine by me. Extra money to be spent and less space for storage. Oh well. Life is full of surprises.

Same as the piping at the top corner of the ceiling. If placed at Wet Kitchen/Yard area then the owners have a choice to plaster or not. In this case, no choice lor. Lol.

Again, as a first time buyer I have my concerns and doubts with my first property. Just hope the sifus and taikors here can help guide/share knowledge. If I said something wrong then I apologize. Peace... icon_rolleyes.gif
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Bro, don't la call ppl dude. Everyone here is tai gor thumbup.gif
I guess Servo gor is same with my friend, who wondering why a DB box can be one of the hot issue among owners until can call the media sweat.gif In fact I already justified your concern, and hope your neighbours understand as well.

Hope you enjoy your future home and the nice view on top of the hill thumbup.gif
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post Apr 15 2015, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(madtalk @ Apr 15 2015, 12:56 PM)
ok. We shall back off from media for now while giving time for developer to rectify common area issues.

If not , we'll do a meeting again for the next step , with more solid evidence that developer is trying to delay time .
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Media section cancelled?
Then all owners after taking key, shall 'sebulat suara' to urge developer to make good on all the common area defects found and submitted, with a time frame given. Periodic checking on their rectification work also needed, to avoid developer dragging and delaying.

So far my friend's unit she still acceptable with the defects, but wasn't impressed with the material used.
She heard some units are terrible done. Depends on luck ker?? hmm.gif
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post Apr 15 2015, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(d.storey @ Apr 15 2015, 01:35 PM)
Looking at the pic the db box really ugly, it shd be placed higher as current height is reacheable by kids.... the exposed piping also ugly....
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Well, i guess aesthetic and defects are 2 different things hmm.gif
May be this is the 1st time I heard someone want the DB box with design cover rclxms.gif

Regarding the DB box height, it was placed above the kitchen wall tiles. Standard height is 1500mm plus the DB box turning knob say another 150mm.
So, total 1650mm / 5.4' to open the DB box. May I know it still reachable by kids??

We all can comments, but before that we have to make sure the comment made is making sense or not...

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post Apr 15 2015, 07:27 PM

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QUOTE(d.storey @ Apr 15 2015, 06:56 PM)
maybe from the pic it doesnt look that high. But i agree with complainer it shdnt put in kitchen becuz humidity is higher there. So we tempt to hv impression it will hv higher chance to break down or cause fire
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Fui yoh..."humidity"
You win thumbup.gif rclxm9.gif notworthy.gif
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post Apr 16 2015, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(servo118 @ Apr 15 2015, 10:52 PM)
Bro Greenday21. I am totally agree with you. There are buyers claimed that they bought for own stay and never worry on the property price. To me, this is very STUPID statement I ever heard. No one in the world wish their own-properties' value going down! What kind of education level they have? I doubt...

Who is the one dare to call himself represent 100% of owner since the JMB have yet settle up?
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Wah servo gor, really got ppl don't bother their property price drops as long as they can get their "perfect home" from developer? Strange rclxub.gif

I would rather spent all my saving or epf to make my house become perfect home, instead of taking actions which may hurting my property price.
Or tell me which developer can give me "perfect home", we go BBB thumbup.gif
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post Apr 16 2015, 12:11 AM

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QUOTE(Greenday21 @ Apr 15 2015, 10:26 PM)
its kind of weird and too impulsive to call media in due to this DB location as one of the reason, how can someone suggest and agree to this move ? i believe a lot of project the DB is hide inside kitchen cabinet of dry kitchen.

friend, think twice before making any move in future, once drop, very hard to rise again. if it is defect, make sure u guys get the developer to rectify it. then if happen i buy it, by the time it will look good. hahaaa. ^^
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Green gor, when everything been rectified, subsale we won't get this price alrd.

Might as well we support them to call media, whack the developer and Zefer "kaw kaw". So, get ready your bullet ya icon_idea.gif
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post Apr 16 2015, 08:33 AM

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QUOTE(Greenday21 @ Apr 16 2015, 08:02 AM)
as i said, once drop, not easy to go up, why want to waste bullet after that ?
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Erm, got your point also. Let's see how it goes after VP and owners start moving in.
Bullet not enough fo SSQ, have to aim here lor... cry.gif
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post Apr 16 2015, 01:19 PM

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Called developer before. Remaining units are all 2000 sf above.
Dual key unit, from RM900k until around 1 mil ohmy.gif

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post Apr 16 2015, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.JJchampian @ Apr 16 2015, 01:36 PM)
then need look for agent liao
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Wait first. See earlier post above, some owners plan to make "huh hah" and call media in ohmy.gif
Scared buying now shakehead.gif
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post Apr 16 2015, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(obee @ Apr 16 2015, 02:11 PM)
yes, bro. I also got this info during the iProperty expo in 2012. but up until now, I don't see any visible work done at that area. Maybe covered by O'hako project site hoarding. hopefully MPSJ faster make a move lor. later more people start to move in then really headache jor sweat.gif
wah. so fast scare people. want to hunt 1 for yourself? brows.gif

no media involvement already lor. now do U-turn say wait more people get key and move in only decide to form committee. emotions too high  rclxub.gif
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Why i need to scare people?

Intend to get one for weekend rest. But when heard ppl want call media in, and like one of the tai gor above said some owners don't bother their Zefer price drop as long as they can fight to pursue their "perfect home", then I pause my thought first hmm.gif
I don't mind pay more if i feel there is room for price improvement. However some said, once price drop after VP, hard to recover back. Name alrd "busuk".... shakehead.gif
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post Apr 16 2015, 02:40 PM

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Or obee, why not you sell me your unit at discounted price since there are so many negative, ridiculous and unpractical "common sense" issues for this development?

I recommend you a better one, so that you no need to be so fuss on this kind of developer.

Ok bor thumbup.gif
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post Apr 16 2015, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(obee @ Apr 16 2015, 02:51 PM)
Lol. I see what you are trying to do laugh.gif

Sorry bro. Not planning to sell. How about I wait for you to buy and be neighbors? brows.gif

I also hope price don't drop. Nobody wish for their own property value to drop. Unless economy burst.
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Neighbour? No no no!
Now VP without water & electricity and the DB box location, already make it so "tai wok" till media almost in shakehead.gif
Don't know what will happen in future sweat.gif

I think it is better for me to visit my friend there during weekend only...

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